and also you gloat way too much like an idiot. when asked to discuss facts you go on and on and bait and switch then bait and switch more.
I am asking analysis and you are giving me more BS again.
ahem i looked at 3d stocks before you even looked at them oopsie please be quiet about the 3d space when you talk of them you do not even understand the technology.
I have said already 3d printing is not for you central planners to profit off from.
it was designed by hackers to give the power back to the people themselves if it does not serve that purpose 3d printing is WORTHLESS.
I said this already.
AND YES I BOUGHT DDD way before YOU EVER LOOKED AT IT when it became a over hyped bubble. be quiet please .
my professors and other engineers can attest to this.
i maker bots are over hyped for all intents and purposes.
production lines can still make it WAY cheaper than 3d printers can ever do so.
THE PROBLEM IS WASTE by corruption.
centralization is ALWAYS more efficient IF not corrupted.
BUT centralization IS ALWAYS corrupted which is why the efficiency is almost never really passed to the masses.
which is why 3d printing was suppose to help decentralize the badly managed system in general.
but you harp on and on about 3d printing how you made so and so profits when buying in at bubble prices.
blah blah blah
when you never even heard about it before the hype came about.
I will say this again IT IS OLD OLD OLD technology from the get go.
a miller a cutter etc are all the same type of machinery technology which people can buy.
the precision etc same thing it just cuts things up for you in the way you want it to be.
NOT ROCKET SCIENCE except for wall street though which know nothing of manufacturing anything because they created NOTHING.
I think I have to agree with this for now. but i already said the silver market might be dead money for a while until the next uptrend and the banksters cannot short it any longer as a shortage develops.
time is coming not yet but almost.
a few more months might do the trick in destroying the supply most miners have.
but only thing I will do though is consume silver myself.
everyone and their grandma knows the market is manipulated though by everyone in the bankster industry.
but you still wont answer my question on DATA itself.
I am asking where is the 66-62 data coming from.
4 million should have been left over for profit after adjustment if you exclude the write down.
it is either taxes or dividend that is changing the value that means.
I am trying to understand the Chinese tax system basically since we know someone like asianvest seems to be Chinese he should know and can answer very strange he is not talking today on the big day usually he would be spamming and gloating like hell while I try to get him to speak.
but oopsie I am not saying you are Chinese so I know you do not know I am honestly asking you to be a real finance guy and actually do what you all are paid to do and actually analyze.
but you never analyzed anything except ask us to buy what you recommend,
fasebyao at least did that much.
i tell all you fakes both sides to #$%$ and stop being puppets or muppets but people of course still do so because they need to feed their families working for #$%$ bag banksters instead of getting a real job.
and also I do scold you all in fact oopsie I frequently do.
so in the end I am asking you to be objective for all intents and purposes.
and the one directed at you about 3d printing.
the value in it to the masses is in fact decentralization otherwise 3d printing is WORTHLESS.
it is because others in general can in fact produce it much cheaper.
the problem is they WILL NOT SELL IT FOR CHEAPER.
as a result consumers would need to compete with producers by becoming producers themselves
that is the WHOLE POINT of 3d printing in the first place.
there are other technologies as well.
once it becomes 3d printing for profit instead and it doesn't lower prices of goods and services people want then it is worthless.
you can use any other old tech and it would be the same or better than 3d printing as well.
what it is suppose to help with is DECENTRALIZATION of the economy idiot.
if ddd doesn't help with that cause then that company is also worthless with over hyped tech then.
especially if 3d printing doesn't help further lower costs and decentralize it for the consumer.
it is not about just modelling.
huh since when did I say you cannot bet against it oopsie.
I just said it was IMMORAL to accuse the company of wrong doing when they did nothing wrong in the first place that asianvest and his cronies and bosses were doing in the first place.
if you thin asianvest and other idiots are actually real people/humans you are a total idiot. they are just puppets or muppets so you will.
maybe you are maybe you aren't though who knows.
you could bet however you like but do not come saying you know this and this when you know nothing.
I am asking for analysis and you are giving me BS again.
anyway here is something interesting if the dividends are not the reason.
it may actually be the tax
Income tax (recovery) expense 2013 2012 2013 2012
Current $ 2,562 $ 7,148 $ 4,625 $ 12,091
Deferred (10,596) 129 (8,659) 3,113
$ (8,034) $ 7,277 $ (4,034) $ 15,204
as you can see.
current tax on svm is 2562 meaning there is a gain.
but they cannot report it?
is it because there is a loss?
the companies there pay taxes early then file taxes to get the tax back.
so the adjustment is not taken into account until they receive the taxes back from the government
that would help explain the reasoning.
but not completely
I need to look closer at the statements.
so what is your analysis oh mr wise one eh?
no one wants to own a scam with no silver or wont deliver silver.
what is the point of owning something you can never have.
so basically you don't own it.
also oopsie if you bothered to read my other posts you would realize I was analyzing their financials trying to find where they got the loss from after adjustment
it doesn't add up.
66-62 = 4 million left over
for adjustment to profit but then they suddenly had a 400k loss instead of 4 million adjustment gain.
the 4 million corresponds to dividends though
dividends are about 2.5 cents and the profits were 2.5 cents after selling the properties
as a result the correlation is too strong to ignore.
you could ask them or others how the accounting is done of course. I am just pointing out the obvious.
what the heck is going on reporting loss of 0.4 million when taking out the
66 write off it becomes 4 million gain instead. I need to look closer then unless you can enlighten me where the expenses/revenues are that were taken in or out.
it has to total 4 million at least.
so far i only found dividends paid to be adjusted to make sense.
I wonder if you can read a financial statement well enough though to explain it.
since all you do is pump and dump or short and distort instead of discussion.
here is a good chance for you to bash with information but you refuse to use data to discuss. geez.
I am more neutral than you actually.
the only thing you could say is silver prices are dragging down all miners I have said this already you idiot but silver itself is manipulated anyway
silver stackers themselves are not wrong they are just being held down. everyone and their grandma knows this
yellen the new chair sees no bubbles which means she and you are lying through your teeth mr politician #$%$ bag.
besides oopsie it has been 1-2 months since you recommended your stocks at the top.
and then shortly after they tanked hard when I said let the pumpers sell first then if you want buy but do not chase
you seem to miss the point that many of your recommendations are highly manipulated as a result you can trade it possibly if you realized that the so called market in general is a scam in the first place.
but now yes I am vindicated again and mud on the faces of those accusing the company of fraud when it is themselves. after proving time and time again the calculations of certain people wrong over and over again.
yes you idiots are still wrong.
since when did I say svm was a for sure win in stock price
I said that certain individuals were spreading lies about it and that was proven true you idiot.
It is related with the silver prices itself after all mr pumper scammer short and distorter.
Pretty much selling the assets proved that most of them were REAL and legit unlike what certain people have said.
besides I am safe because I sell options regardless of the market.
too bad for you that you gamble only. I have an expected rate of return and then target those returns.
that is all.
if it goes bad then break even most of the time and if good then gain yay.
big F deal.
I think we just saw your example here first hand...
honestly speaking they should have kept the properties and sat on them.
but I suppose we dont know when the banksters will stop so it is a wash.
but what ever I just thought of it. unless someone can explain the extra 4 million expense.
compared to the taking of loss on the rights. excluding that svm made money here after all.
third parties that need to be paid shouldn't get paid as well because there was a loss like gov and other owners of the mines
for dividends (4,130)
since svm earnings are 0.00 or so
or 400k down the hole for this q
basically nothing but.
62mil after taxes and 53 mil adjustment after taxes.
66 -62 = 4 million left over.
that number corresponds to the dividends paid too well.
they calculate our dividends paid as an expense now for adjustment of net income.
as it should for tax purposes for all intents and purposes.
other companies do not do this though.
adjustment to net income = one time fees taken out aka sales of property items
+ net income/loss - dividends
it seems to be the way svm calculates it now.
don't know why they intentionally want to miss the forecast when they met/exceeded it after adjustment
intentional keeping price low?
but anyway I bid you farewell.
got to go.
expense of sales surely needs to be cut to a large extent though. since it takes 50% of the revenue after all vs 60% 1 year earlier.
well at least cost of sales improved but their production decrease from not using contractors that steal/hired to sabatoge.
so the question how is net income adjusted lower and what factors make it adjusted lower or higher?