As of Sept. 30th 2013 float 20,620,000 insiders own 18.12% which comes to 3,736,344 which leaves for investors 16,883,656 shares to own. There are 144 marks on I-hub board which tells me we hold a good amount of shares. That's not counting other investors that are not from I-hub that also own shares. It won't take much volume to start shooting the price north, also shares are in much stronger hands. jmho.