Rameson must have disposed of the 115,431 between July 27 and November 11, 2013, inclusive, when the price of MTEX ranged between a Low of $11.30 and a High of $35.00. (Actually, July 29, 2013 was a Monday, and July 27 was a Saturday.)
He disposed of the first 117,036 he acquired at a price which was double the acquiring price. and he disposed of the remaining 115,431 at from double to close to 6 or 7 times the acquiring price.
Seem suspicious? The price was pumped up on basically no news. Rameson's sudden involvement was about as big-a-news as any other news which was released.
Then suddenly, Caster gets involved with Rameson and Rameson's co-member Challen, with Gray Whale Capital, LLC. But, the 482,516 goes into the names of the 2 individuals, and NOT the name of Gray Whale Capital, LLC.
There are some burning questions to be answered:
Where did Rameson acquire 134,858 shares of MTEX on a day when the Total Volume was 12,800?
Where did Rameson acquire 97,609 shares of MTEX on a day when the Total Volume was only 8,000?
Where did Rameson dispose of 117,036 shares of MTEX on a day when the Total Volume was 64,100?
We know Caster is now involved with Rameson, and it is suspected his shares were involved with the 232,467 shares of MTEX which Rameson acquired in 2012.
We know we had two people in dire straights... Caster and the lending bank which held Caster's 5,300,000 shares of MTEX as collateral on a loan which Caster allowed to go into default, and then the 5,300,000 shares suddenly became 530,000 shares on Jan. 17 2012, with the 1-for-10 Reverse Split. The lender must have desperately wanted his money for the collateral, and Caster wanted his shares back and his debt paid off. And, here comes Rameson to the rescue and in a short period of time, after a suitable wait of inaction after acquiring the 232,467 shares, MTEX price goes up in an elevator from the $5 and $6 range up to $35.
Something TRULY smells--all the ingredients 4 a scam R here!
Actually, Fredrick has only 40,000 shares of his MTEX holdings of 315,406 shares, being used as collateral. But, while he had enough shares available for Rameson's holdings since Sept. 2012, he has shown the same amounts of shares for the past 2 years and likely longer.
Rameson's SC 13G states: "The 241,258 shares (the “Shares”) of Common Stock reported in this Schedule 13G are to be transferred by Samuel Caster to the Reporting Person upon the exercise of a Stock Option Agreement dated November 12, 2013.
See Item 4. The Stock Option Agreement provides, until exercise of the Stock Option Agreement, that Samuel Caster shall maintain indicia of ownership of the Shares with respect to receipt of dividends from the Issuer."
If Rameson's first 2 batches came from Caster, as I suspect, then the math doesn't add up either.
134,858 + 97,609 = 232,467
232,467 - 117,036 = 115,431 left with Rameson on July 26, 2013.
241,258 + 241,258 = 482,516, on Nov. 25, 2013, with Rameson & Challen
If Rameson still had his 115,431 shares, after July 26's disposal of 117,036, then he only needed 125,827 shares to add to his 115,431, to = 241,258 he filed with the SEC.
Then Rameson's 125,827 + Challen's 241,258 = 367,085
Rameson's and Challen's 367,085 on Nov. 25, + 117,036 disposed of, on July 26 = 484,121
It appearing that Rameson had disposed of the 115,431 between July 26 and November 11, meaning he had acquired 232,467 in 2012 and disposed of them this year. If they were Caster's shares, then Rameson's & Challen's 482,516 plus Rameson's previous 232,467 = 714,983, which is larger by 168,672, over Casters total of 546,311, which includes his 530,000 collateral and 16,311 available, .
Rameson acquired the 134,858 when the Low was $5.10 and the High was $5.26, on Sept. 13, 2012.
He acquired the 97,609 when the Low was $5.50 and the High was $6.03, on Dec. 31, 2012.
He disposed of 117,036 when the Low was $11.45 and the High was $12.75, on July 26, 2013.
...at Gray Whale Capital LLC, Michael Challen, also has 241,258 shares of MTEX (9.1%), and both filings show that their shares belonged to Sammy Caster, and he will maintain certain rights with the total of 482,516 shares of MTEX, which Rameson & Challen are holding between them.
Some old problems need to be considered to try to clear up what likely involved illegalities regarding the acquiring of the first batches of MTEX which Rameson held. His first batch was 134,858 shares of MTEX, or 5.1% of the outstanding shares, making it a required filing of the Form SC 13G. Not only by Rameson, but by the entity which held them, as they would have held 5.1% before they disposed of them to Rameson. It could not be the Market Makers or all the Brokers in the U.S., because on the day he acquired the 134,858 shares, Total Volume for the day, September 14, 2012, was only 12,800 shares traded.
Rameson's 2nd batch he acquired was 97,609 shares, giving him a total of 232,467 shares, or 8.8%, when the Total Volume was only 8,000 shares traded, on Dec. 31, 2012.
The day Rameson disposed of 117,036 shares, leaving him with 115,431 shares (4.4%), on July 26, 2013, the Total Volume for the day was only 64,100 shares traded. I am sure that the SEC, at least, would like to know where these shares came from, and where they went.
The Form DEF 14A filed on April 23, 2013, listed only 3 shareholders with 5% or more of the outstanding shares of MTEX, and they were Caster with 546,311 (20.7%); Fredrick with 315,406 (12.2%), and Rameson with 232,467 (8.8%). In 4th place was Robbins with 59,000, or 2.6%. Also, Caster's and Fredrick's % is higher than it should be as it includes the options they had in case they exercised them in the next 60 days.
The Form DEF 14A filed on April 19, 2012, showed Caster, Fredrick and Robbins in the top 3 positions with their same numbers of shares owned. So, where did Rameson acquire the shares. Caster's & Fredrick's were collateral for loans.
Mannatech's Form DEF 14A filed with the SEC on 04/30/2007, was the first mention that Sammy Caster had "...pledged 5.3 million of his common stock held as collateral for a loan." It also stated that he held a total of
Since the previous Form DEF 14A which was filed with the SEC on 04/28/2006 mentioned nothing about a loan, it is reasonable to assume that the loan was made between 04/28/2006 and 04/30/2007.
The annual Form DEF 14A filed with the SEC on 04/20/2011, added this info to the notice: "Mr. Caster has informed us that the loan is currently in default and that Mr. Caster and the lender are working together to sell some or all of such pledged shares through a trading plan, pursuant to which limited amounts of the shares may be sold periodically over five years. Due to the provisions of the trading plan and applicable securities law limitations, there can be no certainty as to the timing or total amount of shares that may be sold."
It is also reasonable to assume that Caster's loan went into default somewhere between the Form DEF 14A filed with the SEC on 04/21/2010 and the one filed on 04/20/2011. It showed he still had 5,463,116 shares.
A 1-for-10 Reverse Stock Split, whereby the investor exchanged 10 of their old shares of MTEX for 1 share of the new MTEX went into effect "...at the opening of trading on January 17, 2012." The previous share price was 40 cents, and the new share price became $4.00.
On Sept. 13, 2012, Tyler Rameson acquired 134,858 shares of MTEX. On Dec. 31, 2012, Rameson acquired another 97,609 shares, giving him a total of 232,467 shares, or 8.8% of the outstanding shares.
On July 26, 2013, Rameson disposed of 117,036 shares of his holdings, leaving him with 115,431 shares, or 4.4% of the outstanding shares. These events are all verifiable with the Forms SC 13G filed with the SEC.
Today's SC 13G filings with the SEC announced that Rameson now has 241,258 shares of MTEX (9.1%) and his co-Member...
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California Secretary of State refreshed 11/24/2013, states that both Rameson and Challen are still connected as members with Gray Whale Capital, LLC. Both men are in their 30's.
The very same DEF 14A, filed with the SEC on April 23, 2013, also stated that Tyler Rameson owned 232,467 shares (8.8%) with the following note:
(6) The information regarding the beneficial ownership of Tyler Rameson is based on the Schedule 13G/A filed with the SEC by Mr. Rameson on January 7, 2013, in which Mr. Rameson indicated he had sole power to vote and dispose of all such shares. The address for Mr. Rameson is 10 East Yanonali Street, Suite 2A, Santa Barbara, CA 93101.
The question is, are Rameson's shares of MTEX the same shares as were in Caster's collateral with the lender? If they are, then it looks like the same 232,467 shares were voted twice!
What also stinks is the way the price per share has bounded upward in the past few months, which had all the appearances of stock manipulation to inflate the price of MTEX--i.e., 100 and 200 share blocks being Sold at the Ask, while outrageously higher than the Bid. Buying or Selling 100 shares at the Close, at the highest price of the day.
Mr. Rameson is involved with at least 6 Investment Companies: CASPIAN CAPITAL, LP, (and various affiliates), Gray Whale Capital, LLC, Jade Capital, LLC, Bowery Capital LLC, Bowery Specialists Group LLC and Jane Street Capital LLC, and perhaps other investment Companies, which includes at least 1 or more hedge funds which are known for orchestrating/executing the inflation or the sinking of share prices.
As of the close of business on April 12, 2013, the record date, “shareholders of record” were entitled to vote at the 2013 Annual Shareholders’ Meeting, and Mannatech had 2,647,735 outstanding shares of MTEX common stock, with 1,295 shareholders of record. Each share of common stock entitles a shareholder to one vote.
This whole thing smells and demands a prompt and clear explanation, or an investigation should be called for with the SEC and other authorities! I have not seen M'tech or Caster play by the rules in the 14+ years I've been on this board!
Today, there was a news release by Benzinga, regarding Tyler Rameson:
Today's News, July 29, 2013:
10:06 am EDT: Shares of Mannatech Not Responding to News of Reduced Stake by Tyler Rameson, from 8.78% as of Apr. 23 to 4.4%.
All my brokerage did was show the Headline... no article with it.
Let me give you some facts about Mr. Tyler Rameson.
He burst on the scene on Sept. 17, 2012, when he filed a Form SC 13G with the SEC to cover the Sept.14, 2012 acquiring of 134,858 shares of MTEX, (5.1%) of the outstanding shares.
He re-appeared on Jan. 7, 2013, with a Form SC 13G/A filed with the SEC showing he then owned 232,467 shares of MTEX (after acquiring 97,609 more shares), or 8.8% of the outstanding shares.
This morning he filed another Form SC 13G/A with the SEC showing he now has 115,431 shares of MTEX (4.4%), after apparently disposing of 117,036 shares last Friday, July 26.
There are several things with these transactions with Mr. Rameson, which really stink!
The range in price per share of MTEX, on Sept. 14, was $5.11 to $5.29.
The range in price per share of MTEX, on Dec. 31, was $5.50 to $6.03.
The range in price per share of MTEX, on July 26, was $11.45 to $12.75, more than Double the price when acquired.
Total Volume for MTEX shares on September 14, was only 12,800. How did he acquire 134,858 shares?
Total Volume for MTEX shares on December 31, was only 8,000. How did he acquire 97,609 shares?
Total Volume for MTEX shares on July 26, was only 64,100. How did he dispose of 117,036 shares?
Form DEF 14A, filed with the SEC on April 23, 2013, stated that Sam Caster had 530,000 shares as collateral on a loan which was in default with the lender for up to 3-years, and he had an ambiguous agreement with the lender to dispose of unknown amounts of the total collateral over several years. (See my 3-part-post, "Sammy Caster's Mysterious Holding of MTEX Shares of Stock (In 3-Parts))," dated July 20, 2013, and posted at 2:55 PM, 2:58 PM, and 3:11 PM.
Wherever Sammy is, scams are either being planned, or they are being orchestrated--or both!
News is also out about 482,516 shares of his, from the 5,300,000 shares he used as collateral for a loan which then went into default with the lender. Then things got worse for the lender when M'tech had its 1-for-10 Reverse Split on January 17, 2012, and they were left holding only 530,000 of his shares.
Tyler Rameson then got involved under the table with the stock, although it was never identified as Sammy's. Rameson "acquired" 232,467 shares of MTEX (8.8%) in two parts, the last part on Dec. 31, 2012. Then on July 26, 2013, Rameson "disposed of enough to go below 5%, leaving him with just 115,431 shares on that date.
Now, on November 12, 2013, Rameson is suddenly up to 241,258 shares of MTEX (9.1%) and on that same day, a new player, also from Santa Barbara, CA, (as is Rameson), named Michael Challen, also acquired the exact same amount of 241,258 shares of MTEX (9.1%). The Form SC 13G, were each filed with the SEC for both parties, on November 26, and while they do not indicate the acquiring price for either person, they do mention they are Sammy's shares, and he still has rights to them, at least for Dividends.
In the earlier Form SC 13G's that Rameson filed with the SEC, again they showed no acquiring price(s) or disposing price, and did not mention Sammy, although he was the likely person from whom Rameson got his shares... or Sammy's lender. The only other shareholder who held more than 232,467 shares was Fredrick, who has around 350,000 shares after the 1-for-10 Reverse Split, but most of them are tied up as collateral for a loan.
According to the Form DEF 14A filed with the SEC this past April, Sammy was still showing ownership of his 530,000 shares held as collateral, even though I am sure Rameson held 232,467 of them.
The whole thing smells, as it always does with M'tech and Caster... like, who really voted the shares.
Something's going on!
I forgot to mention that the Chief Operating Officer's name was Anthony E. Canale, in case you want to look it up to verify what I said.
On March 31, 1998, Sammy Caster was listed as having 5,886,946 shares--26.6% of the Outstanding Shares, then--for which it had cost him $10,000. He was offering 200,000 shares for the IPO, leaving him with 5,686,946, or 20.1%.
On the same date, Bill Fioretti was listed as having 5,896,946 shares--26.7% of the Outstanding Shares, then. He was offering 800,000 shares for the IPO, leaving him with 5,096,946 shares, or 18.0%.
And, on the same date, Charles "Skip" Fioretti was listed as having 5,584,946 shares--25.3% of the Outstanding Shares, then. He was offering 200,000 shares for the IPO, leaving him with 5,384,946 shares, or 19.1%.
To those 9,320 A&M who made nothing ($0.00) in 2012, to pay for the Robbins family's C&I of $3,000,000... I don't really know what to say to you about staying alive and growing your business. You certainly have it a lot tougher than those A&M who make the Average C&I of roughly $6.19 a week in 2012. Just think how much that would have helped each of you to have that steady $6.19 a week, pouring in.
To some of you, it could have felt like a million dollars a year to you--maybe even $3 million--like the Robbins Family felt, all year!
Let me tell you something about Marlin Ray Robbins, you probably didn't know. He's kind of a phony--like Nugent is, and some of the others. Ray Robbins is really NOT a Founder. There were 3 Founders--Sammy Caster, and the cousins, Bill and Charles Fioretti. Emprise, the original company, was incorporated on Nov. 4, 1993, and became Mannatech on Oct. 9, 1995, effective on Oct. 25, 1995.
In April, 1994, Robbins, a shareholder in the Emprise Co., entered into an Incentive Compensation Agreement with the Company and pursuant to these Agreements during 1995, 1996, and 1997, the Company paid him approximately $144,985, $510,996, and $466,603, respectively. On June 1, 1997, the Co. terminated the Incentive Compensation Agreements and issued 607,333 shares of Common Stock to Robbins. The shares issued to Robbins were valued at $1.30. In December 1997, the Company cancelled another Agreement by issuing 74,167 shares of Common stock valued at $5.00 a share.
Then on June 30, 1999, while negotiating another Termination of another Incentive Compensation Agreement, part of Robbins demands was that the Company make him a Founder, and on that date, the Company's Chief Operating Officer, granted him the title of Founder, amongst other compensation.
Personally, becoming a Founder of a Company which was incorporated almost 6 years prior, seems more of a scam, than anything else.
But, THAT's what this Company's about--snake oil & scams!
Let's dwell a bit longer on the weekly Commissions & Incentives (C&I), for the past Quarter, i.e., July 1 - September 30, 2013, as not only do they involve the latest official data and numbers filed with the SEC, by Mannatech... but, the $6.32 weekly income--on average--is the largest average weekly income for any Quarter in the past 2 years, and likely longer.
If you're a current Associate or a wannabe Associate--don't fret. It's not as gloomy as you think!
People can live on $6.32 a week C&I... you only have to give up eating breakfasts, lunches and dinners, and all snacks; and, live in your car (if you don't drive it anywhere); plus cut back on your laundry; walk to the library for things to read and keep up on the news; give up shopping--other than window shopping; avoid buying gifts for birthdays, graduations, Christmas, etc., and don't go to church as the tithes will make it even tougher for you to pay your car insurance, which you can't afford to pay--as it is. It is also important that your clients and potential clients go to you in your car, if they want to order more snake oil from you or inquire about becoming part of your Down-line.
I should also point out that while less than half of the 239,000 Associates & Members (A&M) earn MORE than $6.32 C&I, that a lot more than half, earn less than $6.32 a week, since $6.32 is the AVERAGE C&I.
When you get a Platinum, like Marlin Ray Robbins, who earned C&I of $2,800,000 in 2011 and $2,600,000 in 2012, and add the C& I of his son, Kevin, daughter, Marla, and daughter-in-law, Demra, of $400,000 for each of those 2 years... that takes a lot of Associates who have to make ZERO, to pay for just those 4 family members for their totals of $3,200,000 in C&I in 2011, and $3,000,000 in C&I in 2012.
Using the $6.19 a week average figure for all of 2012, the average A&M made 52-times that in a year; or $321.88, divided into 2012's $3,000,000 for the Robbins family of 4, means that 9,320 A&M made ZERO, to pay them!
The 10-Q for the 2013 Third Quarter, ending September 30, is out and filed with the SEC's EDGAR + here is a great piece of evidence proving that Mannatech is still scamming the public and its own Associates.
These are the important numbers to consider:
Commissions and Incentives (C&I): 3rd Quarter = $19,640,000 and: first 9-months of 2013 = $56,362,000
Associates & Members (A&M), for the past year, ending Sept. 30, 2013:
If you do the math, you'll see that the average C&I for each A&M = $82.18 /Qtr, or $6.32 /Week in 13-Wk Qtr.
Last Quarter, ending June 30, 2013, the weekly average was $6.15 /Week, so your business is GROWING! In fact, it GREW by a whopping 17-cents, a week, on average, during the last 3 months.
I know a bunch of you are grumbling that not all of the 239K are trying to grow a business. So, lets fire 90% of the 239,000, leaving 23,900, and let them have the same amount of C&I that 100% brought in... only now you are earning it with 90% of your competition gone. That should make it fairer, eh?
That means that, on average, each A&M is now making $63.20 a week, with 90% of their competition gone, but they are still receiving what the other 90% would have made, too. Who can LIVE on $63.20 a week--let alone GROW a business on that?
If you do the math for the first 9-months of 2013, C&I was $56,362,000, so, on average, they made a total of $235.82 for the 9-months or an average of $6.05 a week (based on 39-weeks).
For the 3rd Quarter of 2012, C&I was $18,658,000 with 233,000 A&M, so on average, they made $80.08 for the Quarter, or, on average, they made $6.16 per week.
For the first 9-months of 2012, C&I was $56,280,000, and with the same 233,000 A&M, on average, they made $241.55 for the 9-months, or, on average, they made $6.19 a week.
2012, 3rd Qtr = $6.16 / week
2012, first 9-months = $6.19 / week
2013, 3rd Qtr = $6.32 / week
2013, first 9-months = $6.05 / week
U R SUCKERS!
RG, ex-trading expert... do you understand/comprehend what I've been telling YOU???
I've been emphasizing the fact that $29.50, minus $26, a share, is a significant profit to a competent shorter, when the price of MTEX gets back to $3.50 a share!
Do you know why I just said: "...GETS BACK to $3.50 a share"? That's because, THAT used to be its regular price, AFTER Mannatech had their 1-to-10 Reverse Split, on January 17, 2012.
BEFORE, then--its regular price used to be around 35-cents a share, even a little less (ALMOST 3-for-a-Dollar). These are ALL facts that I'm giving you, and they can be verified at the SEC's EDGAR filings for Mannatech (MTEX).
These are greater-valued gifts--I'm giving you--than the three Magi were bearing when they chased that bright star across the desert!
Earning $6.15 a week--on average, today--in Commissions and Incentives, won't even pay your phone bill--let alone allow you to eat--so, how can one "Grow a Business," on that, like they keep lying about to everyone?
Even 10-times that amount wouldn't equal what the old slave, Maximus Erectus, made in tips from Cleopatra, until she got bit by her asp on August 12, 30 BC... and Mr. Erectus couldn't grow a business... at least, not peddling snake oil to his family or co-workers!
And, why do YOU think that the labels affixed to every bottle of snake oil they produce, ALL say: "* This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease"? And, another statement says, or in words to this effect: "This statement/product has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration"?
Do YOU think it's because M'tech and its Associates are trying to hide their products' curative powers from their clients and the Public?
Or, might it be, because the Texas Attorney General, the FDA, the Courts, etc., are forcing them to do this by Permanent Injunctions, for having falsely claimed and lied about this--to the public--for so many years!
Shoot for the $3's, RG!
RG... ex-trading expert... Are you ill... fell on your head... lonely... tied up in chains in the SEC dungeon... WHAT???
Why are YOU off chasing two-bit stocks elsewhere, trying to make a few cents with your shorting talent? MTEX has already hit $29.50 today, and is being inflated unabated, 'cause your head got messed-up and you quit YOUR mission here!
How're YOU going to explain this to your grand kids? Have YOU no pride?
MTEX should be below $14 now, at the least, and heading lower, where it belongs in the low single digits.
Worse yet, the inflaters are Ambrotose sniffers, which makes them full of flatulence, that make the higher share prices really STINK--I mean, REALLY stink!
They're pushing snake oil, for gosh sakes! How many plums can YOU ask for? This is a gift... a piece of cake! YOU don't have to talk shorting... tell the truth about the bunkum they sell; the pyramid scheme that doesn't work; the lies and fraud and deception and the other garbage they have to spread, to make a sale--and a sale, most likely, which is to a family member or a close friend, who can't really say, "No!"
Tell them how they CAN'T grow a business on $6.15 a week--on average--in Commissions and Incentives (10-Q - 2nd Quarter, ending June 30, 2013).
If they got rid of 90% of their Associates, and kept the same Net Sales, they'd only be averaging $61.50 a week, in Commissions and Incentives! Do the Math!
How would you like to make that small of a living doing THAT... AFTER, you got rid of 90% of your competition selling the products, while keeping 100% of the sales they all brought in?
Sounds like a huge loser, doesn't it? Slaves made more than that pulling trains with Cleopatra on her Nile barges, back in B.C.
Why are you letting MTEX prosper WITHOUT resistance? THAT's disgraceful!
Gather your senses and get to work! YOU can't ask for an easier short... and who deserves low, single digits, more than MTEX?
No one has posted on this board since October 20, and only once since September 30, 2013. That's because Rexie-pooh and his POT's have placed sufficient posting blocks in the board's posting feature to prevent anyone's posting.
These hackers are right out of Denton County and some are employed by the DA's Office and some by the Sheriff's Office, whose Sheriff is currently facing at least 2 counts of attempted Bribery in their Grand Jury. And, he's only been in Office since January 1.
And, guess who's 2nd in command there... Rexie-pooh, himself!
When questioned by Texas Ranger James B. Holland (who issued the Warrant against Sheriff Will Travis), about what he knew regarding the attempted Bribery counts, Chief Deputy Sheriff Rex Dean George, called his superior--Sheriff Travis--a "ssabmud" (spelled backwards)!
I've been trying to post here on another matter, for the past 3 days with no success, and I usually can find ways to get around the blocks, after a while.
This is evidence of the mind-set of Mannatech who apparently believes it is better to have this board completely blocked from posting, than to risk having any negative messages posted--which is the general direction that most of the messages lead to.
Let's see if this intro will post!
My apologies for posting with scams_r_u but I just posted a message at the MTEX board and did not change back to one of my normal aliases which I use on this board. I have extra aliases here because when I am blocked from posting a message, I can often get around a block simply by using another alias and another browser.
hutch... you say: I find it interesting how you project first your "facts" and then decide that "we" have concluded something. You concluded something not me nor others on this board.
Tell me, hutch... have you yet concluded that Deutsche Bank is not HRTPY's Depositary Bank and never was? Have you concluded yet that HRT is not involved with HRTPY? I concluded that by the end of June, 2012, with less than 1 month of investigation. The EVIDENCE took me there, way back then! My stock broker argued against me for 17 months, and finally admitted it was true, a couple of weeks ago--when they did a little better researching. When you shut out REAL facts and evidence, and don't weed out the garbage and the chad--like YOU are always doing--you do not end up with the truth!
What I have done for a significant part of my life is investigate things to find evidence and facts to get to the TRUTH! I gather it altogether, get rid of the irrelevant stuff and put it together to see the possible conclusions one can draw. When you can narrow it down to only one REASONABLE conclusion, that's the conclusion you should support. You'll never reach that point by skimming over part of a message and not reading others. THAT's YOUR forte, not mine!
With these small posts of very limited size, you can't expect me or anyone else to present their entire argument. I give reasonable supportive evidence with my position, to show it is more likely than not what the TRUTH is. You can disagree all you want, but HAVE SOME EVIDENCE to back you up. Or, at least ask if I have any more evidence, to back ME up. FACT: HRTPY facts & qltiwatcher are BOTH out of your league!
hutch... you are dead wrong in your 2nd paragraph. I've explained it in my earlier posts around May and some later ones. Again, you do not read the information out there, and either from an inability to comprehend what you read, or intentionally tuning it out, you say things which are certainly not in evidence. You show no sign of having researched anything you have ever said about me in a personal manner.
If you want to attack me, get the facts. On April 24, 2002, qltiwatcher came after me and a poster named wiprof, a Univ. of Wisc. Ph.D Immunologist, Researcher, and a Professor to Post Grad students in their Med School. qlti used the excuse to come after me, that I had gone after him on the QLTI message Board. The poster who did that was an impostor, using a name very similar to my THEN posting name. Not only that, but the individual who used that name to attack qlti, was qlti himself. It was another of his thousands of aliases.
qlti used to tell the board that he would have never gone to the MTEX board if I had not bothered him first on the QLTI message board. Total lie. He not only attacked himself to blame me with the impostor alias, but he had been posting on the MTEX board for weeks before the event using other aliases of his.
You are also forgetting that the evidence has shown over the years, that qltiwatcher and all of his aliases, is really Rex Dean George, the former Head of Security for Mannatech, since before it went public in 1998 or 1999. He spent much time on the message board trying to entrap employees and Associates who were not loyal to Mannatech. He got so bad and caused so many complaints on his tactics, that Mannatech had to fire him to quiet all their people down. He still did "jobs" for the honchos and the Company, even when he went to work at Verizon as an Instructor in Computer Forensics, and later yet, when he went to the Denton County D.A.'s Office, TX, in charge of Computer Forensics, and later as its Chief Investigator.
rare... I would think that's in limbo, at least until the Shareholder's Meeting supposedly scheduled in a couple of months or so. I think the feeling is that Discovery Capital and Southeastern Assets (and likely Putnam and others) want to liquidate the assets, and I don't know who or what can stop them from getting what they want, whether it be liquidate, even at bargain basement prices--period; sell what they can at reasonable prices and try to turn a much more leaner Co around; or take it private and when the dust settles, do with it what they may have planned to do a long time ago (with others): own an oil company with certain assets and rights, for next to nothing, then delivered to some large oil company like BP, Rosneft, Chevron, whoever--for a nice piece of a more viable company.
Whatever happens, the Joe Blow HRTP3, HRP and HRTPY shareholders will pay for it out of their pockets!
I just saw that on Sept. 4, Putnam reduced its holdings to 4.84%. Also, SEA has dropped almost 3 million shares since July 11. So now, between Putnam, SEA and Discovery, they own 26.41% of the total shares. When one controls 100% with less than 27% of the shares, THEIR future is much brighter than the rest. Hedge and other funds look out for their own pockets and the pockets of their clients. They are not worried about their co-shareholders, whom they usually consider as fair game for the benefit of them and their funds.
It is getting apparent that the current visitors to this board, i.e., the shorts and the pumpers, are running out of energy. I can just see the sweat pouring off their brows, gasping for air, and inhaling Oxygen through a mask, with an IV stuck in them infusing saline solutions to combat their dehydration. Their legs are shaking and their hands are quivering, as they look furtively at the clock to see how much longer before the Market closes.
What's the score?
Well, the Highs since this contest began in earnest, a short while ago, are 2 days reaching a High of $35, on Sept 9 and 10. The Close those 2 days were $34.76 and $34.80, respectively. The Lows were $31.62 on the 9th and $34.70 on the 10th.
Then, RG got to work and on the 11th, 12th and 13th we saw Lows of $31.60, $25.17, and $23.05 to end the week while the High's and Closes for the same days were $34.90 H, $33.45 C; $33.44 H, $27.75 C; and $27.74 H, $25.39 C.
So far, this week (Sept 16, 17, 18, and 19), the Lowest we've seen is $25.54 on the 16th, and the Highest was
$30.66 on the 17th. The Closes have been $29.55, $28.10, $27.39, and $27.63.
Volume has also taken a dive.
It's hard to tell whether the players lack resources, stamina, fortitude, courage, desire, the lust for money, or competitive spirit. But, it sure is looking like this fight is heading for a double TKO... in other words, 2 losers!
On points, I'd have to say that the air blower northstar is ahead, based on having reached $35, twice! Of course, even this is tainted because RG, while posting a lot, was sitting back in neutral waiting for the inflaters to get up to the mid-$30's. So, $35 is a highly tarnished number... and MTEX hasn't hit $30 since Tuesday the 17th. So far, it doesn't look like this will happen today, either.
It seems that the contestants need a long vacation, at least from this stock. Everything is leveling-out and pretty soon we won't even be able to tell if either one is here--THAT's embarrassing!
Ruchnoy... good, smart attitude, calling northstar: "friend!"
Now, if northstar treats you the same way, you two can accomplish great things with MTEX stock with equal see-saw time... I can hear the cash registers going kah-ching, kah-ching, kah-ching--in each of your accounts!
All it takes is a little intelligent cooperation--no getting greedy, no wanting to be boss--and you both can play this stock like a Stradivarius instrument and you two making-like: Menuhin, Perlman, Heifetz, and/or Paganini, making beautiful music together--kah-ching, kah-ching, kah-ching!
It's all for you... I don't even want a "Thank you" out of this!
But, be prepared for a lot of the M'tech Board of Directors, Officers, Consultants, outside Scientists and the top Distributors carrying boxes of cash to your doors for you both to invest in your MTEX operations, for them!
I bet the B of D will even offer you stock options and other perks like top-drawer medical and dental plans, leased vehicles, expense accounts, tickets to ball games, fights, shows, cruises, high-paying jobs for your family members, junkets to Vegas, Atlantic City, Paradise Island, etc!
It's all there for the taking, if you use your heads!