Ghritz - You stopped me in my tracks. That's a terrific response and has given me pause to reflect. I hope you're right.... gl
It's most curious how some posters are CONFIDENTLY throwing out revenue and profit numbers (not to mention future pps) without APDN management even being able to provide ANY guidance WHATSOEVER! APDN doesn't even generally say what many of the contracts are worth!
Face it, these posters are GUESSING / PULLING NUMBERS OUT OF THIN AIR - plain and simple.
It's called GAMBLING with your money - not investing.
Other companies that have a performance track record, analysts following them, and who provide guidance allow for at least reasonable analysis.
The cheerleaders here have NONE of that available to them (not that they'd utilize it anyway).
They're SHOOTING IN THE DARK - and apparently not even knowing that's the case. :(
therealgman007 - You don't seem to like to read, do you? Have you even taken a minute to research the listing requirements for up-listing to a major exchange?!? No, you're just shootin' from the hip - as do virtually all penny stock faith-based gamblers!
Also, I like your "I expect...300-500% gain..." and another and another "300-500% revenue growth". That just dandy... anything supporting that anticipated growth other than a "gut" feel?!? No. It all comes down to your strongly held belief (not knowledge - which I'm sure you're confusing with belief) that all this will happen. Many children also believe in Santa Claus - and I mean really really believe in him -- probably more than you believe in the multiple 4-6 times un-supported-forecasted growth trajectory!
Just like Santa Claus magic, you arrive at - after many many words and very very few supported numbers - a $2 pps by mid-next year!
And, yes, it would make a financial difference if they can swing an uplisting because it'd open up a wider variety of financing options. Institutions that wouldn't go near a bb penny stock could consider investing in a company on a major exchange and offer superior financing options than what APDN currently faces. Precisely because the listing requirements are more stringent, the company is perceived as less risky than a bb penny stock!
Face it, you're basing your investment and projections on those things called "hope," "greed" and "aren't I smart for having invested in APDN" and not anything genuinely analytical...
I maintain and sometimes add to a modest position based on one thing: It kinda sorta maybe looks like Hayward is a winner and I'll see if I can add to my overall gains with the stock by getting lucky again!
The quest for dumb luck - that's MY basis for investing in APDN - and without knowing it, that's everyone else's basis for taking a stake in the company as well! (except maybe "monadsense" who actually appears to know what he's talking about.)
Just what I've been saying.... It's a penny stock! No one on the board knows what will happen! A couple of years ago, I was holding 400-550k (I'd trade now and then) and was pumping the stock like others on the board... then it dawned on me.. what if something happened to Hayward?!? Just that one risk materializing would sent the company reeling -- and notice I say just that one risk. Others on the board blithely ignore that in addition to the fact that APDN's technology may end up only being a niche product and not be relevant on a wider basis - or it could go obsolete before the company has a chance to get off the ground... I could go on and on... I keep a modest position because Hayward looks like a winner.
If you want to read interesting posts, track the poster monadsense as he's the only one on the board who appears to actually know what he's talking about! He's the one poster I keep track of... GL
Do you have any numbers/timeline to go with your view? If you notice, you're the only response to the question I posed, which is most curious given all the bullish posters on the board..,, geez, you'd think they'd jump at the opportunity to dazzle with their "due diligence" and spreadsheet projections!
Oh, wait, who needs numbers and spreadsheets for analysis when one can always rely entirely on blind faith?!? A very poor investment strategy if there ever was one...
At least you were willing to give it a go...which is more than can be said for the true believers... GL
give me a detailed road map as to how APDN is going to be able to list on a major exchange?
Because until such time, they are condemned to continually fund themselves via massive dilution, which as you know is the most expensive type of financing there is...
Please SHARE with me what you think the PPS will be when they decide to go onto a MAJOR exchange like NASDAQ?
Even if they go cash positive, they are still going to require large capital raises in order to scale the business up if they are going to generate the billions in revenues posters like to bandy about...
I don't expect any detailed responses, just more of the "oh stop saying bad things about my baby!" posts...
It looks like you get confused easy. That can happen when one's in love with a stock! BTW, how is APDN ever going to get on a major exchange? Or do you expect them to continue financing via massive dilution? True believers never like to face the facts...
Sorry, but even at $1 a share they're not going to be able to up-list! That's been the point of this whole r/s issue that you've amazingly failed to see after numerous posts!
I admire your unwavering love for APDN, but I fear it has blinded you to the realities that Hayward and crew would probably like to list on a major exchange sooner rather than later so they can access capital on a more reasonable and expansive basis than what's currently available!
True believers always get soooo defensive...lol
Beg to differ... usually means a pump/dump is underway!
I'm betting this is a "dead cat bounce" assisted by the penny pumpers, but only time will tell... gl!
Why not try reading all my posts concerning a r/s before running off half-cocked! If you had, you'd see that I've said they'll need to do one in the event they want to up-list as to do so requires a pps above a certain level - which they'll not get to without consolidating their shares.
Short of needing it for the above strategy, I could care less whether they do a r/s or not since it's just a paper adjustment, no more.
I totally agree that a reverse split is meaningless from an economic standpoint and I could care less whether it undertakes one or not -- except in the case where it could be necessary for the company to list on a major exchange, in which case it'd be likely -- precisely because APDN has too many shares o/s to get past penny status.
If you think that somehow APDN jets past $5 without a reverse, then I'll say you're under the ether and sharing the same fantasy with many other posters.
Getting to $1 is a far-fetched stretch given APDN's known prospects and, yes, mountainous overhang of shares, much less any pps higher than a buck.
THAT is the context in which my posts were made -- not that I somehow endorse a r/s, which as I've always said (and you can go back years on my posts) are economically a wash.
Also, you tout being in since 4-5, which has nothing to do with watching that pps come crashing down in the last 6 months! Please don't tell me as a dyed-in-the-wool APDN bull, you somehow managed to finesse your way out of that one by trading... As for me, I'm not emotionally invested in the stock and so making sober decisions about it are more straightforward.
You didn't even bother to actually compute what I said in my post. It's possible you're unable to understand.
The hypothetical I posed had NOTHING to do with a reverse split!
It focused on the relevancy of the number of shares o/s in relation to a given amount of revs/earnings.
If your investing due diligence is as dodgy as your reading comprehension, I'd suggest you embrace an aggressive money market strategy!
You probably won't respond again to this post after you re-read mine and spot (if you can) your error. As I said in a previous post, some posters on this board are blinded by arrogant ignorance!
Whining? That's funny as I'm not the one who saw my brokerage account fall like a lead balloon in the wake of APDN's spectacular plunge! In fact, I'm in the catbird seat buying when I want at a 50% discount from where I sold my original position!
Many posters here figure the stock's a better bargain when the price is higher. That's why I like this board - it's aggressively irrational.
They need to start generating turnover in the tens of millions and it will need to be clear that they're a go-to standard, and not just one of thousands of anti-counterfeit vendors out there IMO.
I understand that you really really want the pps to go to $1 (which still makes it a penny stock), but unfortunately that's not enough for it to happen. This is where we might be miscommunicating!
I like this board. It's insane.
Could you please provide the revenue/profit projections and timeline that support your $750mm market cap? I'd be interested in how your modeling for this outcome!
It's ez to talk about $1pps - which comes out of the world of fantasy. It's another thing to support that projected outcome with some realistic numbers and time frame.
Dreaming if fine, just not as an investing strategy.