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shelbyi 47 posts  |  Last Activity: Dec 22, 1998 9:49 AM Member since: Jan 11, 1998
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  • It's at 1.75 and it's staring to make you nervous?

  • shelbyi by shelbyi Dec 8, 1998 2:14 PM Flag

    I'll make my comments then people can bomb and
    retaliate against me. My contact who works for TRCR gave me
    some comments. The sales staff has been quit good.
    They have worked hard and made tremendous progress. On
    the business side they are recieving a lot of
    customer complaints. The hospitals are not happy with the
    communications between TRCR and themselves,they have had
    difficulty getting service done in a timly manner.There has
    been a misunderstanding of the expectations of what
    was to be delivered and how the relationship between
    TRCR and the hopitals would transpire. Can anyone
    comment in an objective way? Are they in jepordy of
    loosing some contracts?

  • Does a site exist such that aperson can trade after working hrs.i would like to trade after my work is done.

  • Reply to

    Opinions on the quarter's results??

    by Go_CO Oct 20, 1998 9:03 AM
    shelbyi shelbyi Oct 21, 1998 10:02 AM Flag

    Glasscott
    You think their are a lot more
    shares now, wait till Gerdes and Shamon exercise their
    options. If the company ever does make much money the
    majority will go to them in the form of options and stock
    liqidations.

  • Reply to

    Get In!

    by shelbyi Oct 19, 1998 2:43 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Oct 19, 1998 3:16 PM Flag

    Thanks for the info Xport. If they earn two cents a share this will givr the company stability. Maybee a platform to take off from. god job on the info gathering.

  • shelbyi by shelbyi Oct 19, 1998 2:43 PM Flag

    People are using this as an oportunity to sell. Now is time to buy at 2.5 Get in before the news hits. it's going to $4.

  • Reply to

    All time low

    by glassactt Oct 14, 1998 12:09 AM
    shelbyi shelbyi Oct 16, 1998 5:16 PM Flag

    Dynamic, This is excellent. $3 a share. maybee there is life after death. Any news please speak.

  • Reply to

    All time low

    by glassactt Oct 14, 1998 12:09 AM
    shelbyi shelbyi Oct 14, 1998 10:09 AM Flag

    Den
    Do not buy the bullshit about Don Lucas.
    He is a close friend of Huff's and was involved with
    the IPO of HBOC. He is a talented man but is not
    heavily involved with TRCR. It is a gift or favor to
    Huff. Lucas is very wealthy and is slowing down. He is
    not very active as a board member. He was active with
    this group of morons when they ran HBOC into the
    ground (to $4 a share)just befor the board asked Huff
    not to have anything to do with the company anymore.
    You remember- enogh of Huff in the Wall Street
    Journal. I saw where Holcum Green is in Frbes four
    hundred. Maybee we could get him involved with TRCR.

  • Is there any new news from the company? Whats the next step for the company?

  • Reply to

    .

    by I_know_the_truth Sep 9, 1998 9:05 AM
    shelbyi shelbyi Sep 18, 1998 11:31 PM Flag

    I wouldn't assume anything and Im sure for the
    rigth price MMC would be the buyer over AOC and would
    probably loose their ass on it as well. If you are an
    astute manager in the Insurance industry you know about
    the coming changes in the business sector.Read the
    AOC annual report, the interview with Pat Ryan. He
    has built this company from nothing and he is an
    extreamly sharp salesman and businessman. I have been
    personal invplved with the negotiations on many of the AOC
    transactions and it is with amazement that I watch this man
    deal. He might not be number one in the idustry overall
    and I don't always agree with his projections, but
    htis man is a natural born dealer. He twists and
    turnes, charmes and talks some of the best and most
    astute attorneys in the business. These people are far
    more educated and learned than he is but he ought to
    see him go. A real joy to watch, it makes you laugh
    at times. This man is no fool, he's not going to
    throw dumb money on a table just to say he bought the
    company and claim he is the biggest. I disagree with him
    on how I think the industry will shake out. I think
    he will have to deal with the big banks, AIG's, GE
    capital and a host of hughe merged capital powerhouses.
    Might take about ten years to work out but it is
    coming.

  • Reply to

    .

    by I_know_the_truth Sep 9, 1998 9:05 AM
    shelbyi shelbyi Sep 16, 1998 2:58 PM Flag

    What is the objective of the game. To see who can
    buy other companies the fastes at any cost or to see
    who can manage their acusitions and maximise profits
    and eficiancies. KKR is nothing more than a finance
    arm that buy's companies, reduces their cost and
    increases operations. When reedy, they sell the company at
    a profit and look to another industry or player.
    Theyhave no interst in being in the insurance brokerage
    industry long term. It's not part of their core
    operations. They will shed dead fat, reduce commisions to
    brokers and fire underperforming agents. Then they will
    sell to the highest bidder. $ in the pocket and move
    on.

  • 1 3/4 Where are we going with this thing. Are we going to fold? Please respond.

  • Reply to

    honesty

    by shelbyi Aug 13, 1998 5:43 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Sep 4, 1998 9:55 AM Flag

    Xport sees things the way he want's to see them
    and that is positive. He is not looking at the facts
    in an objective way. He owns the stock and would
    like to see it go up, therefore he looks only for the
    good news. He is a cheerleader who lookes for the
    positve and discards the negative. He does not see the
    real facts but rather focuses on facts which are most
    appeling to him. However you cannot escape ratinalization
    and the stock price drops. The market is always
    right, never wrong.

  • Reply to

    honesty

    by shelbyi Aug 13, 1998 5:43 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Aug 19, 1998 7:20 PM Flag

    Doe's anyone know about the numbers. Will this
    thing take a dead cat bounce or will it just die. Doom
    is piling on gloom. If you are a money manager XPORT
    are you woried aboout law suits from clients? Does
    the SEC ar NASD have any recorse against you? If this
    stock continues to fall, will co's stop makeing a
    market in the stock. Why doesn't Huff fire Gerdey's. Do
    you feel Gerdey's should stay on to finaly bury he
    company? How do you feel xport as Gerdey's takes out home
    mortgages from your money? Will you support a class action
    suit if you are suied by clients who have invested
    money through you into this fraud pile? I agree with
    you that this is a beautiful business. Cost
    containment and reduction in the health care field today.
    When I first invested money with these crappy business
    people, it looked so good it was to good to be true. Well
    it was too good to be true, I never thought about
    the moron of a management team. I forgot that this
    was the same team that ran HBOC to $4.00. The same
    co's now split several times and is doing great that
    Gerdey and Co have finaly left. This guy must be
    delusional. He has every incentive in the world to make this
    co. work. He has shares galore, get's to call himself
    CEO. Get's to "run things". But he laughs, sends us
    sun glasses, blowes smoke up our ass. He did get
    analyst coverage at one point. Yep, from Dain Bosworth I
    believe. Told everybody he expected earnings of 4 cents in
    the fourth quater and drove the stock to thirteen
    dollars. Boy, I bet he was proud, realy knew how to build
    a company. But just like Bill Clinton you can't run
    from reality. Earnings wern't 4 cents, they were
    negative four cents. Blamed it on the salesmen. Stock came
    down, that's right. To a recent 1 7/8. Institutions who
    bought this analyst got their buts kiked and sld their
    shares ( when in dobt, blow it out). The analyst looked
    like a fool now shes not their anymore. (why not send
    her a pair of sun glasses) While Gerdes was boarding
    Huff's plane for a flight to the Bohmas the analys was
    fielding phone calls and preparing to depart her job. Yep,
    shes no longer their, isn't that funny. Can't she take
    a joke. So tell me wll Gerdes be their by your side
    when investors stat to sue. No, hell be teeing up at
    Atlanta Country club while your giving a depositon.

  • Reply to

    honesty

    by shelbyi Aug 13, 1998 5:43 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Aug 19, 1998 1:49 PM Flag

    Is there any information coming from the company on new news or what are they expecting for this quater? (profit or loss) Also how is cash on hand?

  • Reply to

    honesty

    by shelbyi Aug 13, 1998 5:43 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Aug 14, 1998 11:47 PM Flag

    Hi How you doing and that was it. I know him in
    passing but that is it. I can't help who decides to
    believe me or not but I did see Larry Gerdes. If golf
    would relieve his stress and help him manage our
    company better Im all for it. I don't want to bash larry
    Gerdes, what I wan't is for him to focus on this company,
    get some intensity, If he doesn't have the skill then
    hire outside consultants. Get the job done. I hope he
    doen't read this message board. I can't believe that
    people get upset with me at the management of this
    company. Is this performance acceptable to you, to
    everybody? I can't believe this. Just a few calm quick
    questions. is there any news out of the company? Whay are
    they expecting for this quater. Good or Bad. Does
    anyone talk to Gerdes when they call the office. As you
    can see I'm being very calm and cordial. Could the
    stock price fall to a point were no company will make a
    market in the stock. If so what is the price? I do have
    to make one more comment. If I ran the company I
    would fire Larry Gerdes in a heart beat. Nothing
    personal, but it's a bottom line business. You either
    create value and move the company or you don't it's that
    simple.

  • Reply to

    honesty

    by shelbyi Aug 13, 1998 5:43 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Aug 14, 1998 12:10 AM Flag

    I own shares at $9 -10.50 and I could just cry. I
    can't stand to sell and might as well just take the
    write off if and when the co goes bust. I would love to
    be hopefull, I truley would. (for my own sake as
    well as others) I am stupid but not totally naiev. I
    have just one question. If you were a hospital
    administrator, would you turn your medical transcription
    responsabilities over to a company that makes no money, has low to
    no cash flow, stock price is at $2 a share and you
    don't know if the company will be around in six months.
    With the best salesman in the world, what prudent
    manager would do this. I can't see where the sales are
    going to come from, but with no new sales how will
    revenue and profits pick up, how will the stock price
    move up. The company has watered down the potential of
    stock with stock options . Believe me I would not mind
    this if it motivated the management, but nobody seems
    to care. Somebody from the board askes a question
    and they get sent a pair of sun glasses. Then I
    wounder why I get upset. It's not funny. They are sending
    out sun glasses with my money. The hot air and bull
    shit that the senior managers dole out is ten times
    worse than anything I or anyone else pro or con on the
    stock has placed on this board. I say it's time for a
    law suite. I'm pissed to say the least.

  • shelbyi by shelbyi Aug 13, 1998 5:43 PM Flag

    Somebody's not being honest. I will admit thatI
    am upset, many of my comments are very harsh, and
    angery. However, I cannot help but be angery when I have
    lost so much money. It's my own fault, as much as I
    keep kicking myself, I chose to make the investment. I
    took a risk and it didn't work out. For that I blam
    myself. I do feel that the officers of this company (if
    thats what you want to call it) have a responsability
    to the shareholders employees and themselves. They
    should be doing everthing in their power to try to build
    this company. try to make it work. I am sorry for my
    anger but I do expect more from he officers of a public
    company. I would like to see some intensity out of this
    group. I DID SEE LARY GERDES ON THE GOLF COURSE. I SPOKE
    TO HIM. REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COMPANY MAY SAY

  • Reply to

    FOR SALE 2

    by den1351 Aug 7, 1998 1:50 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Aug 12, 1998 6:23 PM Flag

    I saw Gerdes and Huff on the golf course yesterday. You think he's woried about the stock?

  • Reply to

    FOR SALE 2

    by den1351 Aug 7, 1998 1:50 PM
    shelbyi shelbyi Aug 11, 1998 6:26 PM Flag

    Look at this winner fly. The cash flow is sooo
    huge I can't stantd it. Money to burn baby, let it
    burn. Yeh, looks like the hospitals are just out
    sourcing to this company like crazy. Where is the business
    plan. were is Gerdes. He's off the gift of a board at
    AKSY. They wouldn't let a fool of a man like this stay
    on there board. Yeh he know's how to build a company
    all right. Up his arogant ass that's were. Bigg
    businesman, bullshit! Get off the golf course Larry , you
    moron. Close some business. Do a deal. Your companies
    going down the drain. I think Gerdes should get
    involved in sales.

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