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sigma_x000 411 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 11, 2010 9:22 PM Member since: Feb 22, 2010
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    Can Someone Answer a Serious Question?....

    by sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:06 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 9:22 PM Flag

    Honestly - I could give a f**k whether or not you buy any NLST stock.

    I was asking a legitimate question. I don't understand why PANL trades @ 21.50 and NLST @ 2.80. That's all.

    They have one product that's being qualified right now. But, in the meantime, the number's are still higher than PANL. It just makes no sense to me, is all.

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    NLST revs in perspective - compare to PANL

    by moneybaloon Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 9:10 PM Flag

    I'm going by the numbers has down for them under key statistics, which I know are out of date and probably relate to FY 2009. But, still, even on March 6th of last year, it (PANL) only got down to $5.

    So they reported revenue of $17M for 2009, with gross profits of $13M. Which is a lot better than NLST pulled.

    But I hear you. This is definitely a growth stock. I'm just worried the whole market's gonna crash back down to under last year's low. Where NLST would trade at then is anyone's guess.

  • Reply to

    Anyone Have Level II Access?

    by sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:23 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:29 PM Flag

    Wow - what a tough guy. To curse someone out while they hide behind a computer screen takes all kinds of balls.

    Other guys must cross the street when they see you coming, you cowardly little f@ggot.

  • Reply to

    Can Someone Answer a Serious Question?....

    by sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:06 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:27 PM Flag

    I suppose, to answer my own question, that the answer lies in gross profits -

    PANL reported gross profits of $13.91M on revenue of $17.2M.

    While NLST reported gross profits of $2.96M on revenue of $24.21M.

    Yep, I guess that'll just about do it. Although NLST did just report gross profit of $4M for the six months ended June 30th. Which is more than they reported all year last year. And it's just expected to get better and better for them. So I advise you all to get in now, while the getting's good.

  • And, if so, what kinds of bids/asks do you see?

    Any volume on either side?

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    Why folks selling me their shares so cheap LOL

    by scottyv Aug 11, 2010 6:15 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:20 PM Flag

    Yeah, and I bet when it's trading @ 2.52 tomorrow, you won't be anywhere around.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be.

    Every time an idiot like you posts something like that on a message board, you can be guaranteed that the stock will go down.

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    NLST revs in perspective - compare to PANL

    by moneybaloon Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:18 PM Flag

    I guess, after going over their numbers, that the answer lies in gross profits.

    PANL reported gross profits of $13.91M on revenue of $17.2M.

    NLST reported gross profits of $2.96M on revenue of $24.21M.

    I never finished college or nothing, but even I can tell that that's a BIG DIFFERENCE.

    So that's why PANL trades @ $21.50 a share, and NLST under $3.

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    What Did I Miss on the C.C.?

    by teddy_duggan Aug 11, 2010 5:35 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:14 PM Flag

    Fidelity and thinkorswim. Both let you trade starting @ 7 a.m. EST and stop trading @ 8 p.m. EST.

    You can trade forex and futures 24 hrs a day on thinkorswim.

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    What Did I Miss on the C.C.?

    by teddy_duggan Aug 11, 2010 5:35 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:08 PM Flag

    AH ends 8 p.m. EST, me lad.

    I just put a bid in for 10K shares @ 2.33, just in case the MM's try and play stupid and get everyone to sell.

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    Can Someone Answer a Serious Question?....

    by sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:06 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 6:07 PM Flag

    Oh, yeah - and why did someone just come along and buy 110K shares in AH a full dollar above the ask?

  • Why does PANL trade @ $21.50 a share, and NLST under $3?

    PANL has about TWICE the float that NLST does. PANL earns about 2 1/3rds the revenue that NLST does. PANL has a lower gross margin, and loses more on an EPS basis than NLST does (when you factor in the amount of shares.)

    I seriously can't for the life of me figure it out. Check out the numbers if you don't believe me. But, on paper, NLST is the better co., with a lot more growth potential than PANL, and yet it trades in penny-stock land.

    Can someone please explain to me the price differential as if I were a 6 year-old?

    Thanks in advance.

  • Based on what?

    The guy who posted that comparison to PANL has a seriously valid point - why does PANL trade @ $22 a share when they have twice the float NLST does, do about $12M less in revenue annually, have a smaller gross margin, which translates into a bigger loss, and a product that that competes with MANY other companies?

    I just don't get it. So - what? - this is gonna go back down to $2 now? Based on what?

  • And when it does, as long as they're not talking about selling any more shares (do they even have any left from the shelf? I don't think they do - didn't Needham exercise the over-allotment clause?) or giving themselves any more options, we should be good to go.

    (Although I will say that it's pretty distasteful that most of the loss can be attributed to the "stock-based compensation" they're doling out to themselves. That sucks, and it needs to stop. At least until they can bring in a profit for their shareholders. (Incidentally, most of the options they awarded themselves are exercisable @ $7, so expect a lot of resistance going forward, once it reaches that. 'Cause management will probably start dumping them en masse when it does.)

    (Notice I didn't say "if it does." 'Cause it's a matter of when, not if.)

  • Reply to

    Big sell

    by klaasjan95 Aug 11, 2010 4:31 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 4:40 PM Flag

    I think not, my dimwitted friend.

    The fact that they beat the estimates on revenue by 16.25% IS a surprise, considering the fact that Hypercloud hasn't even hit the market yet.

    So imagine this time next year ('cause that's all Wall st. cares about at this point in the game - next year) when both Netvault and Hypercloud are both bringing in revenue - you're talking about, at the very least, $100M in sales. They get their gross margin more in line, say to around 35-40%, and you're looking at a $25 stock.

    But, if you're so sure it's a screaming sell, PLEASE short with all the money your Grandma put in your trading account for you.

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    NLST revs in perspective - compare to PANL

    by moneybaloon Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 4:37 PM Flag

    By the way, PANL's EPS for 2009 was (-.49) a share, as opposed to NLST's (-.60) a share. They DO need to get their margin's up. But once that happens, this thing is going to quadruple.

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    NLST revs in perspective - compare to PANL

    by moneybaloon Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 4:25 PM Flag

    Holy shet, you're right.

    PANL has almost twice the float @ 37M shares, does less revenue than NLST, and is trading @ $21 a share.

    That's unbelievable. Seriously unbelievable.

    What's REALLY unbelievable is the fact that NLST is only going to do more in revenue from here on out. I mean, they just reported a 177% increase in revenue over qtr. 2, 2010, and frickin' Hypercloud isn't even on the market yet.

    This is going up no matter which way you slice it. But that's a real eye-opener, your comparison to PANL. They report - what? - $17.2M in annual revenue, as opposed to NLST (at this rate) doing about $38M in revenue, and growing?! If you go by the metrics of PANL, this should be trading @ $30, at the very least.

  • 366 of them were bought today. For .10 each. Down from .15 yesterday.

    The get continues. Someone has snatched up roughly 2K Aug. $5 calls so far, in the past 2 weeks, after absolutely NO options being traded at all this year or last. All of the sudden, someone thinks this is going to $5 by Sept.

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    They Beat on Revenue..

    by sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 4:05 PM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 4:10 PM Flag

    Yeah, they did. Analyst's estimates called for revenue of $8M, my man.

    So I'd say that's a beat of 16.25% over analyst's estimates, no matter which way you slice it.

    And it's only gonna go up from here.

  • sigma_x000 by sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 4:05 PM Flag

    04:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 08/11/2010 (MidnightTrader) -- Netlist (NLST) reports Q2 revs of $9.3 mln, better than the single analyst estimate of $8 mln on Thomson Reuters. Loss for the quarter was $0.16 per share, vs. expectations of a loss of $0.16 per share.
    Price: 3.05, Change: 0, Percent Change: 0
    http://www.midnighttrader.com

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    Got an Order in for 10K Above the Ask...

    by teddy_duggan Aug 11, 2010 10:14 AM
    sigma_x000 sigma_x000 Aug 11, 2010 2:46 PM Flag

    I got 2,400 of a 10K order @ 1.45/1.47.

    Then the bid went up to $1.51 and that was that.

    I'm getting into this next low floater early. It's only a matter of time before they do to this what they're doing to ICOP right now.

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