Honestly - I could give a f**k whether or not you buy any NLST stock.
I was asking a legitimate question. I don't understand why PANL trades @ 21.50 and NLST @ 2.80. That's all.
They have one product that's being qualified right now. But, in the meantime, the number's are still higher than PANL. It just makes no sense to me, is all.
I'm going by the numbers has down for them under key statistics, which I know are out of date and probably relate to FY 2009. But, still, even on March 6th of last year, it (PANL) only got down to $5.
So they reported revenue of $17M for 2009, with gross profits of $13M. Which is a lot better than NLST pulled.
But I hear you. This is definitely a growth stock. I'm just worried the whole market's gonna crash back down to under last year's low. Where NLST would trade at then is anyone's guess.
Wow - what a tough guy. To curse someone out while they hide behind a computer screen takes all kinds of balls.
Other guys must cross the street when they see you coming, you cowardly little f@ggot.
I suppose, to answer my own question, that the answer lies in gross profits -
PANL reported gross profits of $13.91M on revenue of $17.2M.
While NLST reported gross profits of $2.96M on revenue of $24.21M.
Yep, I guess that'll just about do it. Although NLST did just report gross profit of $4M for the six months ended June 30th. Which is more than they reported all year last year. And it's just expected to get better and better for them. So I advise you all to get in now, while the getting's good.
Yeah, and I bet when it's trading @ 2.52 tomorrow, you won't be anywhere around.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be.
Every time an idiot like you posts something like that on a message board, you can be guaranteed that the stock will go down.
I guess, after going over their numbers, that the answer lies in gross profits.
PANL reported gross profits of $13.91M on revenue of $17.2M.
NLST reported gross profits of $2.96M on revenue of $24.21M.
I never finished college or nothing, but even I can tell that that's a BIG DIFFERENCE.
So that's why PANL trades @ $21.50 a share, and NLST under $3.
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I just put a bid in for 10K shares @ 2.33, just in case the MM's try and play stupid and get everyone to sell.
Why does PANL trade @ $21.50 a share, and NLST under $3?
PANL has about TWICE the float that NLST does. PANL earns about 2 1/3rds the revenue that NLST does. PANL has a lower gross margin, and loses more on an EPS basis than NLST does (when you factor in the amount of shares.)
I seriously can't for the life of me figure it out. Check out the numbers if you don't believe me. But, on paper, NLST is the better co., with a lot more growth potential than PANL, and yet it trades in penny-stock land.
Can someone please explain to me the price differential as if I were a 6 year-old?
Thanks in advance.
Based on what?
The guy who posted that comparison to PANL has a seriously valid point - why does PANL trade @ $22 a share when they have twice the float NLST does, do about $12M less in revenue annually, have a smaller gross margin, which translates into a bigger loss, and a product that that competes with MANY other companies?
I just don't get it. So - what? - this is gonna go back down to $2 now? Based on what?
And when it does, as long as they're not talking about selling any more shares (do they even have any left from the shelf? I don't think they do - didn't Needham exercise the over-allotment clause?) or giving themselves any more options, we should be good to go.
(Although I will say that it's pretty distasteful that most of the loss can be attributed to the "stock-based compensation" they're doling out to themselves. That sucks, and it needs to stop. At least until they can bring in a profit for their shareholders. (Incidentally, most of the options they awarded themselves are exercisable @ $7, so expect a lot of resistance going forward, once it reaches that. 'Cause management will probably start dumping them en masse when it does.)
(Notice I didn't say "if it does." 'Cause it's a matter of when, not if.)
I think not, my dimwitted friend.
The fact that they beat the estimates on revenue by 16.25% IS a surprise, considering the fact that Hypercloud hasn't even hit the market yet.
So imagine this time next year ('cause that's all Wall st. cares about at this point in the game - next year) when both Netvault and Hypercloud are both bringing in revenue - you're talking about, at the very least, $100M in sales. They get their gross margin more in line, say to around 35-40%, and you're looking at a $25 stock.
But, if you're so sure it's a screaming sell, PLEASE short with all the money your Grandma put in your trading account for you.
By the way, PANL's EPS for 2009 was (-.49) a share, as opposed to NLST's (-.60) a share. They DO need to get their margin's up. But once that happens, this thing is going to quadruple.
Holy shet, you're right.
PANL has almost twice the float @ 37M shares, does less revenue than NLST, and is trading @ $21 a share.
That's unbelievable. Seriously unbelievable.
What's REALLY unbelievable is the fact that NLST is only going to do more in revenue from here on out. I mean, they just reported a 177% increase in revenue over qtr. 2, 2010, and frickin' Hypercloud isn't even on the market yet.
This is going up no matter which way you slice it. But that's a real eye-opener, your comparison to PANL. They report - what? - $17.2M in annual revenue, as opposed to NLST (at this rate) doing about $38M in revenue, and growing?! If you go by the metrics of PANL, this should be trading @ $30, at the very least.
366 of them were bought today. For .10 each. Down from .15 yesterday.
The get continues. Someone has snatched up roughly 2K Aug. $5 calls so far, in the past 2 weeks, after absolutely NO options being traded at all this year or last. All of the sudden, someone thinks this is going to $5 by Sept.
Yeah, they did. Analyst's estimates called for revenue of $8M, my man.
So I'd say that's a beat of 16.25% over analyst's estimates, no matter which way you slice it.
And it's only gonna go up from here.
04:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 08/11/2010 (MidnightTrader) -- Netlist (NLST) reports Q2 revs of $9.3 mln, better than the single analyst estimate of $8 mln on Thomson Reuters. Loss for the quarter was $0.16 per share, vs. expectations of a loss of $0.16 per share.
Price: 3.05, Change: 0, Percent Change: 0
I got 2,400 of a 10K order @ 1.45/1.47.
Then the bid went up to $1.51 and that was that.
I'm getting into this next low floater early. It's only a matter of time before they do to this what they're doing to ICOP right now.