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Why not scream this:

proven criminal mf thug reed hastings scam $ss insolvent poop wipes stink gas fumes are about catch fire and turn into poison gas to blow up 995 pension funds next

two mutual fund criminals have parked too much poop wipes in pensions now and fraud loot at trowe with nexus scam gang continues

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Why not scream this:

proven criminal mf thug reed hastings scam $ss insolvent poop wipes stink gas fumes are about catch fire and turn into poison gas to blow up 995 pension funds next

two mutual fund criminals have parked too much poop wipes in pensions now and fraud loot at trowe with nexus scam gang continues

Sentiment: Strong Sell

SEC in computer trading probe Re: FBI: NETFLIX BIGGEST FRAUD PRICE/VOLUME MANIPULATION CRIME SCENE RED HOT FOR 2+ YEARS IN USA WALL STREET(NOW FRAUD STREET) CASINO..ALL WHISTLES BLOWN ..WHY HAVE YOU NOT ACTED ON IT?

Hello FBI folks

Are you honestly Serious to Save USA 99% from Bankster Fraud?

Why not Arrest all SEC CRIMINALS first and why?

NETFLIX:Biggest Computer trading fraud manipulations scam in history of USA so called Wall street, which now turned into pure Fraud street Casino

I have been screaming for over 2+ years with this biggest fraud loot via massive price/volume manipulation fraud but Robert Khuzami/Robert Cook/Mary Schapiro scam gang at SEC provided full protection for this cam loot over $40B+ now in 3 years

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Lion warns them: rome did not burn in a day

these criminals will be dragged out of their glass buildings and dragged on street of usa by angry mobs inn 2014

massive civil untrest in usa 2014

did ya see 48 year old andrew in cyprus ran his bulldozer over a bank building?

and he was looking for banksters so he can run them over too?

just a trailer

banksters will have no place to hide from angry mobs next

watch as soon as banks ever open cyprus...stampede to withdraw funds will unfold next

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Crystal clear fraud: How these criminals control volume and fraud pricing in this trading pit for 3+ years .Why FBI & your Analytic division not replay the entire scam trading ticker tape and defend your fraud protection to this nexus scam gang?OPEN CHALLENGE to all watch dog agencies in USA to debate live on National TV Broadcast this $40B+ loot scam.

How these criminals unleash "HFT" fraud trading volume and how they switch off and dry the volume?

RED ALERT IN USA: PROVEN CRIMINALS AT SEC, NETFLIX FRAUD MANIPULATION AND $40B PLUS LOOT SCAM STILL FEARLESS IN USA? WHY? HANG SEC CRIMINALS ALONG WITH ENTIRE NETFLIX FRAUD MANIPULATION SCAM GANG TO STOP LOOT FROM USA 99% PENSIONS .....only way left to stop fraud now

Enforcement Tips and Complaints

Manipulation of a security's price or volume
Insider trading
Manipulation Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions. of a security's price or volume

Sentiment: Strong Sell

roaring salute.....well said

Good-Bye
Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It
by PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded “anti-American,” “anti-semite” or “conspiracy theorist.”

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. “Free market economists” are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by “the New Economy,” a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this “new economy” are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of “the New Economy.”

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted “studies” that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the “studies.”

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies’ role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby’s testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a “threat,” he wasn’t impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don’t carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO “performance bonuses,” have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these “performance awards” by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about “the Muslim threat,” Wall Street, U.S. corporations and “free market” shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government’s claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect “terrorists,” and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week’s first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American “mainstream media.”

For the last six years I have been banned from the “mainstream media.” My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush’s wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington’s deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar’s value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called “entitlements” as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington’s greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the “war on terror,” the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off.

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS was an editor of the Wall Street Journal and an Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. His latest book, HOW THE ECONOMY WAS LOST, has just been published by CounterPunch/AK Press. He can be reached at

Sentiment: Strong Sell

More on Ponzi pyramid cost scam
Sharon, I did what you did…paid my $9.95 up front, got my kit and the call from my coach. I too was not interested in selling Herbalife but figured I’d give it a try. You have two options, one costs $69.95 and you have to lean on you friends and family to buy their products. The other costs $400 which I thought covered setting your own website. It does not!!!! That is for the training package and some Herbalife products. I started registering with my coach and found that after the $400, there are more charges! $100 to set up your website and $80/month to keep the website going! I was floored. I told my coach that I could not afford that per month and she said to send my training package back unopened and they will refund my money! Scam or ripoff? I don’t know but I’m getting out NOW! Hope this helps!

Sentiment: Strong Sell

The leads are expensive and horrendous. As I agree with the previous reviewer, OBS model is based on recruiting not retailing Herbalife. Not a good area to start a home based online business.

Online Business System’s is just a really pushy way to recruit Herbalife distributors and sell product (but more to recruit people). They say that ‘anyone can do it’ which is a bogus claim, and if you start reading the fine print it even says that results will be based on your own business talent and that testimonials do not indicate what will happen in your business. There are also disclaimers to state that gross profit indicated in their marketing does not include marketing costs, and they recommend you buy around $1200 worth of marketing a month, so when they say $2000 profit, they really mean $800 and that would take an awful lot of hours to make, definetely not worth the time you put in. Some people have made a good income out of this, but their whole life is run by ‘Herbalife’ and they have meetings even at 9.30pm every night, and the uplines encourage you to keep working the business even during holidays. I could go on and on. It is a legitimate business with borderline false advertising (they get away with this false advertising with fine print disclaimers). I would suggest reading the fine print if you get involved in this business.

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Mike says:
March 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I’m sad to admit that I was taken in by Online Business Systems after hearing a prominent radio talk show host rave about it. So, here’s how it works. For $9.95 you get a small package raving about an online business opportunity that could potentially reap big money. No real information about how the business works is contained in this package. Very soon after receiving the package you’ll get a call from a person who will be your personal coach and who will try to talk you into going further and set up a 3 way call so can listen to recording of the head of Online Business Systems. Here is where you learn that you’ll be selling HerbaLife. You then decide whether to cut and run, or get pulled in like I did. If you go on you’ll be charged another $39.95 for for the initial information package and $399.00 for a distributor kit. This kit is a small black bag, a few sample items of product, some brochures, some order forms and training manuals. When you review the training manuals, you learn that the entire business is prescripted. There is literally a printed script that is followed by your “coach” through the whole process. There are even scripted answers for the questions most commonly asked. Here is where you decide if you want to stay at distributor level and make a 25% profit or, for $2000 more, move up to supervisor level and make a 50% profit. For the $2000 you receive around $4000 worth of product to sell, use yourself, or do whatever with. Now, after you’ve invested all that money, you want to recupe it. In order to do that, you can try to generate your own leads, or for $500 Online Business will supply you with 5 decision package leads and 10 or so call leads. A decision package lead is someone who has already invested the $39.95 and a call lead is someone who has invested the $9.95 to review the information package. So this isn’t so much about selling HerbaLife as it is about getting people to buy into the idea of selling it by guiding them through the process of spending $40, then $400, then $2000, then $500 for everyset of leads purchased. The “coach” gets a piece of every dollar you spend, their coach get a little piece, and so on up the chain. Some how Online Business Systems is a legal pyramid scheme. I made $1200 after having invested over $6000 before I called it quits. I should have listened to my wife.

Sentiment: Strong Sell

odney Connally says:
November 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Herbalife is simply a legit front for Online Business Systems. Basically you keep spending money trying to make money. For example, you pay $399 enter the business and actually learn how you will be compensated. To start out at the Supervisor level where you earn 50% profit on what you sell, you have to purchase $4000 worth of product, but your actual cost is $2000. I figure this is the way most of the actual products are sold. OBS main focus is for you to recruit more people. They could care less about how much herbalife u sell. Many people buy the supervisor package and get stuck with a lot of herbalife product because the products are too expensive compared to other products that are sold in stores. On top of all this if you want generate leads online you have to buy the leads, $500 for a list of 5 “HOT” leads which are people you could POTENTIALLY recruit to become distributors of herbalife. Also this company has had 3 different names in 20 yrs. Newest Way to Wealth, Global Online Systems, and now Online Business Systems.

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Retail suckers , LION warns you all to get out before it is too late

MF criminal Carl Icahn is trapped for great kill and Great ACKMAN bait got him trapped

This pyramid ponzi must face seize and desist orders

Sentiment: Strong Sell

RED ALERT IN USA: PROVEN CRIMINALS AT SEC, NETFLIX FRAUD MANIPULATION AND $40B PLUS LOOT SCAM STILL FEARLESS IN USA? WHY? HANG SEC CRIMINALS ALONG WITH ENTIRE NETFLIX FRAUD MANIPULATION SCAM GANG TO STOP LOOT FROM USA 99% PENSIONS .....only way left to stop fraud now

Enforcement Tips and Complaints

Manipulation of a security's price or volume
Insider trading
Manipulation Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions. of a security's price or volume

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Gene Burnett - Jump You F*#kers (A Song For Wall Street) - YouTube

Sentiment: Strong Sell

Netflix Valuation: A 'House Of Cards'?
Operating Income & Debt Servicing:

Netflix also has a deteriorating coverage ratio (EBIT/ interest expense) due to increases in debt, a 93% drop in operating cash flow, and an 87% decline in operating income YOY ($ 50M in 2012 vs. $376M in 2011). The decrease in operating income appears to be largely a result of a 29% increase in COGS and 27% increase in technology/ development which can be linked to a strategy shift to get more exclusive content on the Netflix platform (particularly for streaming). This shift is an important aspect of Netflix's strategy; recognition that content will be the only way to sustainably compete in the space over time. This shift in strategy will no doubt continue to increase costs and depress operating margins for Netflix as it races to secure exclusive content to retain customers. This point is further illustrated by the fact that Netflix has increased non-current content liabilities from $48 M to over $1 billion in just two years. The subsequent deterioration of operating income (EBIT) and coverage ratio for NFLX signals the increased possibility that it will encounter greater difficulty in servicing its debt or even see an increase in its cost of capital in the future, especially if growth slows. This is especially worrying as Netflix has increase non-current liabilities by roughly 500% since 2010 (including content liabilities). Admittedly, Netflix has increased revenue by approximately 12.6% over the past year, which is enough to cover their increasing cost of goods sold. The increase in gross margin has not translated to operating profit, which only exacerbates the decrease in the coverage ratio should growth slow from its sky high expectations. These are just some of the reasons that Netflix booked just $17 million in profit for 2012, despite $3.6 billion in sales.

Sentiment: Strong Sell