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  • Usually takes 3 days to clear euphoria or pessimism on the significant (albeit fake) news. So expect the selling to start Monday on this bloated pig. $60 valuation on 2015 GAAP eps estimate. Anything else is just bubbles.

  • Unbelievable these clowns are reporting recurring Operational Compensation Expenses as a NONGAAP Adjustment. FRAUD. ACTUAL eps was 30 cents. Calculating PE based on 30 cents projected 4 Qs at about 1.1 annual and you get a PE of 68 which is more than twice the growth rate. What is wrong with you people.

  • Reply to

    What is Obama's approval rating today???

    by bachus.obama Jul 17, 2014 7:08 AM
    slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 17, 2014 12:06 PM Flag

    Considering approval ratings are fickle and have a lot to do with how well the sample polled is doing, anything above 20% statistically should be considered victory. Why 20% you ask - the bottom 80% in US owns about 10% of the wealth which is really bad considering in that bottom 80%, the bottom 40% have negative net worth. So who gets the blame certainly the bottom 80% are not going to blame themselves that would be admitting failure. Easiest target is to blame the Potus and for a small percentage of these failures at life they get a chance to blame a black guy.

    To blame the executive branch for the failures of the legislative branch is just plain stupid but in keeping with the low IQ US voters and poll takers who dot this magnificent country owned mostly by the top 20%.

    If you are in the top 20% and you still do not like Obama check your race card at the door. Bin Laden the man responsible for giving the Goahead for 911 is dead, and it bears noting Bush said he hardly ever thought of Bin Laden towards the end of his failed presidency, the S&P is up from 666.79 to 1972.61 or thereabouts, The only Potus who successfully got Universal Health Care passed - others have tried and failed this guy Obama skillfully got it done and the benefits from this in preventive screening and care alone and now picked up by Insurance Companies using their dime, and expunging preexisting conditions as a means of denying health care coverage are major reasons why the law is good, The list of accomplishments for Obama is too great to list here.

    The bottom 80% of wealth holders and the dwindling remaining race haters who look to blame others for their lot in life find their way into these polls - what a surprise Obama gets the nod from 40% saying he is doing a great job.

    Considering the above stats regarding wealth in the US, Obama is actually statistically exceeding excellent stats when you adjust out the failure population and small in mind and number race haters.

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    Zuck is building a monster company!

    by redtr4 Aug 8, 2014 7:11 AM
    slider5x5 slider5x5 Aug 8, 2014 1:24 PM Flag

    benzilla's is correct for the most part. I disagree with his definition of what a multiple is. A multiple is just that a multiple and can apply to current PE. For example FB using your NON GAAP #s is trading at a multiple of its growth and Non GAAP earnings of about 1.21 (1.62 x 37.15 x 1.21 = 72.82 about where it is trading now). This would give FB a Non GAAP PE of about 45. Traditionally PEs and multiples are associated with GAAP figures so normally a stock trading at a GAAP multiple of 2 would be labeled expensive, but if you state what your reference points are it is ok to use Non GAAP figures - unless the Non GAAP figures are in violation of Non GAAP reporting which I believe FB is guilty of. But that is another issue. As stated GAAP is always the way to go unless you have non recurring revenue or expense items you want to exclude to provide investors with a better picture of the company.

    On a GAAP basis using 2014 Zacks current year #s FB is trading at a multiple of 1.77 times it's growth and earnings rate (1.32 x 31.1 x 1.7738 = 72.82). The PE is about 55 ( 72.82/1.32 = 55). If you go to Zacks and look at the earnings page for FB you will see a current PE of 55.64 pretty close to where I calculated. What stands out here is the multiple of 1.77 which is close to 2 and traditionally considered expensive. Sometimes you will here it phrased a stock is selling at 2 times its growth rate. In this case it is 1.77 times its growth rate. Expensive because of expectations. You see the yahoo number for growth coming in at 37.15 vs zacks which is at 31.1 which is a wide margin.

    Clear as mud right.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 18, 2014 1:08 PM Flag

    Only an imbecile would put their credit card information on FB. The Buy Button will work as effectively as "Gifts"

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jun 10, 2014 6:31 PM Flag

    I agree Bush was the worst - the repercussions from that idiot's decisions are still reverberating. Clockworks53 post below states clearly why Bush the idiot wins the Potus boobyprize.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 8, 2014 7:57 PM Flag

    They should revoke your right to vote based on your stupidity. ya moron don't you know Congress only appropriates funds not the executive branch. Obama is proposing a solution that is called leadership you idiot. Over half a billion or 615 million of the 3.7 Billion request is for wildfire suppression - 1.1 billion of the total is to increase detention space for children and adults that meets “legal and humanitarian standards” and to ensure “protection of asylum seekers and refugees while enabling the prompt removal of individuals who do not qualify for asylum” or other relief. Your solution is what?

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    3 Day Rule - This FB Turkey is about basted

    by slider5x5 Jul 25, 2014 7:57 PM
    slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 25, 2014 9:02 PM Flag

    Do you even understand what NON GAAP EPS means. NOPE obviously not. If you did you would not have questioned what I said re: non gaap fraud numbers. READ THE REPORT - it clearly states the FRAUD. Look up non-recurring. Then explain why they keep pulling out legitimate recurring Operational Compensation and calling it non-recurring. On the other let's see what happens Monday and Tuesday.

    page 4 of 10 of the Earnings Release under heading: Non-GAAP Financial Measures

    GAAP Investors are cautioned that there are material limitations associated with the use of non-GAAP financial measures as an analytical tool. In particular many of the adjustments to our
    GAAP financial measures reflect the exclusion of items,specifically share-based compensation
    expense and payroll tax related to share-based compensation expense, and the related income
    tax effects, that are recurring and will be reflected in our financial results for the foreseeable future.

    BWAHAHAhaha so they are taking out what they know is a recurring Operational Expense which by definition is not an extraordinary one time event. If that is not fraud what is. To make it worse idiot analysts use the Non GAAP numbers which are fraudulent to track the performance of Fraud Book. Funniest part is FB is warning people about the use of these NON GAAP fraud numbers..


  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 9, 2014 9:53 PM Flag

    You all know the drill when they collectively arrogantly laugh in their complacency the market has a strange way of giving the last laugh to the one being laughed at. Marc corrected the interviewer and said he has been right in his calls. He who laughs last laughs loudest. or something like that. QE ending and rates rising could be a catalyst. Hearing some say they can't wait for that event they will use as buying opportunity - till their hands get so bloody they can't stand to catch the falling knife. Ramble On.

  • to 38 ; Non GAAP doesn't count mkt cap ridiculous

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 May 30, 2014 2:58 PM Flag

    VA has always been a mess. But also I agree Bush and Cheney by initiating the Iraq War on false pretense of WMDs and the US casualties and wounded from that mess aggravated an already overburdened system. Heard the other day the cost of both wars initiated by Bush total cost above $3 trillion and 4,000+ US casualties. If stupidity was a hanging offense all of US that got taken in by Bush on that WMD lie would be hanging from a tree. I like Gov. Perry's response when he fdup running for POTUS - OOPs. That is about as far as this will go. Worst President ever Bush and idiot VP Cheney. Not even close.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jun 10, 2014 7:41 PM Flag

    you mean the illegals you hire to do your lawn, cut your trees, clean your house, build your house, fix your roof, your a/c etc. less expensive than hiring legal - you mean those Illegals? hypocrites like you are disgusting. Fix the immigration system by all means but stop with the high and mighty act of "send em all back to mexico" while you benefit by hiring them to do work for you cheaper than you would have to pay a US Citizen to do that same work.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jun 3, 2014 9:31 PM Flag

    What is sad is stupididiots who fall for rightalwayswrong rhetoric. Those 5 Taliban were going to be released anyway soon. You don't keep POWs after the war in Afghanistan is over. It was actually a pretty smart trade by Obama. Military code dictates we never leave American military behind if we have a choice. Period EOS. Nothing to put them on trial for - enemy combatants, Immoral to hold them forever at Gitmo for fighting on the battle field.

    Very shrewd trade by Obama. Trade 5 guys who would be released anyway to insure we get our American Soldier back. If he left his post lets find out why instead of jumping to conclusions. PTSD affects individuals differently. Rush to judgement by idiot rightalwayswrong is typical. They will lose on this issue too.

    Taliban are not Al Qaeda learn the difference. 911 attack was Al Qaeda which is why we went to Afghanistan to chase down OBL until Bush blew it and OBL escaped Tora Bora. The idiot Bush made the huge error of falling for neocon rhetoric and pulled the WMD lie getting us involved in the worst blunder in US history - Iraq War,

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 9, 2014 12:56 AM Flag

    foo8675, absolutely correct. In fact Obama has deported so many coming across from Mexico - Hispanics are calling him the Deporter in Chief. Obama called the bottom of this stock market and the idiots complaining about stupidity they believe from fauxsnooze missed the bottom - my guess is they were curled up in fetal position too stupid to take advantage of the greatest buying opportunity in at least two generations. Obama Beat Republicans at everything. Really quite amazing the more Obama succeeds the more they hate him for it. Top 10% have watermelon smiles - it's all gravy and bottom 90% have very little asset wealth and make less than they did 10 years ago inflation adjusted. Who can blame them for being so misdirected with their anger - easiest target for them is the black guy - Susan Smith and a host of other murderers continue to blame that direction - their stupidity always gets em caught just like the idiots pointing at Obama with 3 of their fingers pointing back at themselves. Quite Amazing. The folly.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 19, 2014 3:23 PM Flag

    If the criteria is idiocy and imbeciles then FB has a good shot for Buy Button with their user members. But most thinking individuals will avoid FB buy button. Also the buy button is there for ads which are after the fact anyway so it should fail miserably. FB reads your cookies after you have searched using Google Bing Amazon or walmart and bought what you want then shows you an ad for what you already bought. For the ads based on your likes chances are if you already like something you already have purchased that item. FB offers stale ads that are useless ergo the "BUY Button" just like "Gifts" will fail. The funny thing is the Buy Button if FB is stupid enough to implement it will confirm the uselessness of FB as an ad platform. Hilarious boy genius is about to bite the big one.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jun 3, 2014 11:21 PM Flag

    You don't have a clue. We don't leave our soldiers behind.

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jul 10, 2014 8:47 AM Flag

    yup he who laughs last laughs loudest

  • Reply to

    If this gets bad, it'll just get worse

    by bareft5 Aug 5, 2014 3:30 PM
    slider5x5 slider5x5 Aug 5, 2014 3:41 PM Flag

    If the sun rises it will also set

  • FB is pulling out recurring charges for share based compensation and related tax charges to the tune of 12 cents EPS a quarter - If you can't honestly say this is in violation of SEC FINAL RULE - Item 10 of Regulation S-K and Item 10 of Regulation S-B you all need a quick visit to the Optometrist for a vision check.

    The prohibition on adjusting a non-GAAP performance measure to eliminate or smooth items identified as non-recurring, infrequgent or unusual, when the nature of the charge or gain is such that it is reasonably likely to recur will make clear that such an adjustment is prohibited only when (1) the nature of the charge or gain is such that it is reasonably likely to recur within two years, or (2) there was a similar charge or gain within the prior two years

  • slider5x5 slider5x5 Jun 3, 2014 10:06 PM Flag

    Bush's Iraq blunder was planned cover so he would not look like the idiot he was in letting OBL get away while cornered at Tora Bora. EOS Obama gets OBL in Pakistan - while rightaw (raw) was laughing saying we can't go into Pakistan or kill enemy without clearing it with Pakistan first, Even Bob Gates said it was the gutsiest call he ever saw a commander in chief make.

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