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smittensday 114 posts  |  Last Activity: 14 hours ago Member since: Feb 1, 2000
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  • This Portnoy step child is in free fall - and the ports love it - they are sitting on the side lines like wolves waiting to grab up thousands of shares - IMO / That is part of the move to NAZ and the Lax in Rules governing these REIT's NAZ vs NYSE = Mang. win / shareholder lose............
    I have not bought yet in the 1.60's , I'll wait till 1.50's or lower then buy.

    GLTA Speculators and Holders - Hope it recovers to the Sunny side of your Portfolio...

  • When you fall on your face again Don't ask Americans to Bail You Out........ LOL Now go BreakExit - it...

    Foolish People - Middle Income and lower will get hurt the most ; Same as if Trump gets in and the Dummie Middle think not.
    Filthy Rich got theirs and will maneuver to get the rest while the middle will grab at straws.
    Stupid People Do Stupid Things. The Voters can Implement Term limits by their VOTE - Instead of Throwing thir hands up and saying What Can I Do ?

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    Way oversold just bought 8k @1.79

    by readytorock4u Jun 23, 2016 1:51 PM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 24, 2016 6:16 PM Flag

    Waiting to see if a buck sixty ($1.60's) comes about - Portnoy's want to let it go down so they can buy a lot - Many Hedge Funds can't hold NAZ or stocks under $2. so they have to dump that is why the VOL. is so high lately. Another reason for their move to NAZ - IMO and of course the Lax of Rules on NAZ vs NYSE -

    Hanging on to the Ports coat tails to see where they drag us - hopefully like they did with RMR deal as GOV ? SNH / SIR and the rest all went down by several dollars and now way up. That is when it grabbed my attention and I bought
    1500 sh.of GOV - 13.92 and 13.98 / same on SIR (Bt. $18) now up 4.50 dollars or better from entry on all of the rest SNH (Bt. 14.**) and gained RMR ($13.) - Plus gaining a hefty Divvy on them except FVE (?) .

    GLTA - Also Hold CSAL @ 18.** and HTS @ 14.** , going for NLY next once the buyout of HTS is finalized -

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    by jlsaturn Jun 21, 2016 11:52 PM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 23, 2016 2:53 AM Flag

    Paper Value VS What someone presently is willing to pay for the stock - Bkruptcy / Liquidation etc. never come to full attrition so the Real Present Value is a Buck . and eighty two cents per share.
    A Pure 100% Speculative Bet , so don't bet the farm Ports will do anything different but continue to hook up the hoses to the cash cows teets and drain er dry ? SPECULATIVE - at least for the mid-term (6 Mo. or more - IMO Evaluation and opinion..... - Bought more at 1.88 / may buy more in the buck 60's or 70's till this settles down.

    GL to all that take a ride on this Player Chance Railroad......

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    ZD Buckley L/S Equity

    by russ69v Jun 10, 2016 9:58 AM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 21, 2016 3:34 PM Flag

    I bought in today at $1.88 doubling my Spec. Position - We shall see what game Ports are playing and hopefully they make money , meaning I make money - Don't have to like the Payee , just have to cash the checks down the road - LOL

    GLTA Speculative Players -

  • smittensday smittensday Jun 21, 2016 3:11 PM Flag

    Also some hedge fund managers can't hold after delisting to NAZ so they will have to dump bringing the PPS down so the Ports can buy up a lot more - (Just a guess but that is what I did , doubled my position on them - Good Luck , but Speculation is part of investing of 10% of my portfolio at times.

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    Tender changes

    by fred_red_oak Jun 15, 2016 10:17 AM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 21, 2016 3:05 PM Flag

    Thanks - Nothing wrong with collecting .45 cents a sh. while waiting on a Possible? other offer - but we will go down now till we find out the next move -
    PS - Ck into FVE - it is in a group of RMR Mang. holdings - owned at lot by Portnoy 's which hold GOV / SIR / SNH and others great REIT's - but it is presently a step child - No Div. and just made a play to delist itself to go to the NAZ / a Ploy I'm guessing to skirt some of the NYSE rules by Port's and do something with it - They own the RMR Mang. Co that oversee all the other REIT's to make more money , I'm on their coat tails making great money on PPS and the Div. but think that just maybe FVE may be their next money making move.
    Presently 1.88 Sh. should be 5.00 / Read all the post and then do some DD - it may be worth a sm. Speculative Buy -but do your own DD and don't bet the farm on my opinion. Good Luck !

  • Switching to Naz / Vol. Delisting is a tactic used to get more favorable rules (NAZ vs NYSE) Ports have tricks up their sleeves / time to buy more - a real gamble on Speculation - but Ports track record shows on GOV / SIR / SNH and others in the RMR Group that they cause havoc and the PPS goes way down then comes back look at the stocks I listed on chart and see that this all unfolded within 18 month ago on them so I'm "Guessing" "Speculating" something is amiss here now and could make a double real quick ....

    Pure Speculation on my part though - ? Buyer Beware !!!!!

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    Tender changes

    by fred_red_oak Jun 15, 2016 10:17 AM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 17, 2016 5:25 PM Flag

    We both agree that the offer is bad - but to make a few extra bucks on the way , since it is not going to be our call in the end but those Lg. hedge Fund guys that hold all the paper.
    (Unless you have a better offer or can change Mang. mind and that would cost us if they cancel)!
    So , I make what I can - I also own plenty of GOV / SIR / CSAL / SNH and other REIT's - stocks diversified enough that depending on one or two doesn't work for me.
    Also just pointing out overlooked facts here , that are far and few in-between on these poster boards. Most posters on these board talk trash or wish and hope but skirt Fact Based Info. - Not like you and I that dig for info. or look behind the curtain - GL and Have a Nice Weekend / It is going to be a great Holiday (Fathers Day) Weekend here in the NE around the Great Lakes. Time to go drown some worms -

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    Tender changes

    by fred_red_oak Jun 15, 2016 10:17 AM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 17, 2016 1:16 PM Flag

    So do the math - buying hts now at 16.09 / gaining the .45 div. and the nly deal is for 15.85 - No Brainer of a gain in money if yo have and on line acc. at $6. to 8. dollars a trade.
    16.08 minus 15.85 - (.24 cent split) getting from nly In july / div. record date june 30th - so you collect .45 cents on top of it. .24 from .45 = extra .21 cents PS. ($210 Per 1000 shares) and the vol. was over 1.5 mil. today that makes out for 1500000 time .21 - and extra of $315,K diff. not bad 4 the hedge funds - LOL

  • Google / or go to CNN Money for story - - Yellen: Helicopter Money could be and Option -

    Could Yellen's next move use Helicopters Dropping Cash to a Neighborhood Near You - What will that do for the Price of Gold and Silver - Load up Investors the Yellen has finally Cracked Up - Lit........ ROTFLMFAO

    You couldn't make this up on SNL - $ - $ - $ - $ - Falling from the Sky - Totally destroying the Dollar Value ;(The value still supposedly left that is). Lock and Load Boy's - Proect your #$%$-ets ,
    Also reading on CNN is "China dropped over 36% of USA Stocks and Bonds" -
    Fear Run Amuck He we come......

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    Bill Gross says BUY NLY on CNBC Pro

    by fredkane3941 Jun 14, 2016 2:36 PM
    smittensday smittensday Jun 16, 2016 3:00 AM Flag

    Yea , BUY ; as Compass Point down grades the management - a real good investment - LOL
    Even the HTS holders won't sell to them with the lousy deal they are trying to make - They (HTS) get a better offer on the open market - (15.85 vs 16.15 (?) and in a few days will be div. settlement date for .45 cents a sh. on HTS ???

    A Fool and his money are easily separated listening to Hacks + cnbc pro -

  • Cheap #$%$ NLY / Go Pound Salt with your Space Case Clown Pushing the Deal. LMFAO at these Boobs -

  • act like cattle and run hide / Attack / attack / attack - the sum could not had done all that without reloading - so why not fight back if your going to die at least die fighting back ?

    What is wrong with people all trying to run / hide - You need to all attack and stop (stomp his F***ing head it).

    These mosques are beds of issues - His mother husband had sworn allegince to the Taliban / 3 / 4 times a week visiting mosque and no one knows anything - what about registering those that buy 100's of rounds of ammo -and Islamic - associated with someone associated to swearing allegience to Taliban - Red lags Galore - IMO plus on watch list and interviewed twice - Link the dots - a blind man could see this one coming -

  • smittensday smittensday Jun 10, 2016 7:53 PM Flag

    garp - don't waste your time with that hack - he is a Pd. Clown to complete the deal and is twice as ignorant - he thinks he is important and listened to -
    All he is , is a salt pounder for the FIRM he claims to be with - LOL - FIRM / he thinks he is Gates or M. Douglas with greed is a good thing - what a hoot he is - Mr. Space Case - there is always one in a barrel of monkeys or is he the monkey in a barrel of ...The Firm holds a leash on him like the organ grinder.............throwing him peanuts to do their bidding,

  • smittensday smittensday Jun 8, 2016 12:55 PM Flag

    One tip I do use - I don't reinvest the div. right away into the same stock - income averaging is for the fund mang. to make money - I collect all the div.'s and wait till a pull back in different sectors and then buy - works for me better that way - Oil right now is completely out of favor - but last winter as spring started it is as usual that summer driving will expand the use so I bought some on spec. went up marginally but up NE / and sea dill went up from low to double from winter , not a lot of cash but a win all the same -
    CSAL and WIN - I am sitting on some cash just for them once this supper up cycle starts to go back down - CSAL in at 18.'s now 26. but will go back down within 6 mo. to 20. / 21.'s IMO so cash and learning to wait out the major pull backs always helps.
    I am also watching FE / GE / T - Right now way too high , but will pull back eventually - I set targets then hourly watch nd usually buy on a down Fri. also works well 4 me.
    I will dump into a major cash stash before Aug. because of election and this nightmare mess of politics as who the hell knows what is coming with Trump and Clinton so major Funds will load up on cash but th St. will be caught with major pull back and then have to sit it out in hopes of getting even - always repeats cycles - mkt. goes up and then pulls back then back up - TATIENCES is KEY to making money -those that rush in or think they know something others don't usually lose. Just basics 101 common sense IMO. GLT - ya ;

  • smittensday smittensday Jun 6, 2016 8:59 PM Flag

    In at a little over $14.13 if I remember (could ck it though). so I got the other Div. once already and will make out either way.
    This deal doesn't pass the smell test IMO though - could or should of gotten more - I bought for LT but then this came along / I got $160K in GOV @ 13.93 / SIR @ 18. Ch./ RMR @ 14./ SNH / and CSAL @18. Change / sold off WIN at 8. ch. all way up now ? should dump them all by July - with the way the Economy is looking but div is too great for LT hold. IMO.

    GLTA that take the chance and put their money down,,,, ?

  • smittensday smittensday Jun 3, 2016 1:30 PM Flag

    There is no Q's that the HTS CEO is making out substantially , I am just looking for the shareholder (Me) and the rest for a fair deal - Just like a Union Neg. for its Body the CEO and upper mang. Neg. for their own interest - Where is the Unbiased Rep for the Shareholders - Collateral Damage Doesn't Do it For Me.

  • What is the Pay Out schedule for Dividend if the deal Does / or Doesn't go through - (?) -

    Are shareholders still going to get the 90% - or is a Back Rm. Deal Cut excluding the HTS shareholders -

    The closing date on this deal will go beyond Q's that should reap some Div. for shareholders if Profits are made - This alone Needs better disclosure before making a decision on the offers - IMO
    Hold Management Accountable or contact your Broker slash Attorney - Q's need answered !

  • smittensday smittensday Jun 2, 2016 11:02 PM Flag

    Depends on what deal you take - you get more NLY shares for your HTS / 1.55 I think so that would work out to .32 plus 1/2 again .16 = .48 cents if you swap it all , I'll take the middle deal cash and part shares since I'm in low already -and picking up money ahead of the deal in excess of about 1.50 a share or so.
    But check out my math since it is late and I'm half asleep / LOL

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