A year ago, G-Tree was called 'Digital aria"....they were a technology company. 9 months later they are "g-TreeBNT".....now the site says they do pumps and motors....television amd movie production.....and fantastic biotechnology.
I found on Korean exchange their number is 115450. G Tree has 18,921,484 shares outstanding....and total capital of 9,460,742,000 Korean Won. the Won trades at 0.00091 to US Dollar. Which means with 18.4 million shares and 9,46 billion won capital.......then G-tree is worth $8.6 million dollars. RGRX has 107 million diluted shares, at 15 cents a share, means RGRX has a marlkket cap of about $16 million..........so RGRX market cap is TWICE the capital of G-Tree.
I couldn't get an exact quote on G-Tree...jujst the number of shares and capital.
If RGRX has TWICE the market of G-tree...where will G-tree get teh money for all these trials? Or the 41 million to buy USA rights..........or the $875,000 to buy 5.5 million RGRX at 15 cents w/in a couple days.
Something does not smell right with them..so I say FOCUS on Lee's trial in China.
Anyone know how or if you can get quotes on GTree shares? GTree probably a better buy. Let's just say that I think they will "do" whatever they have to to show a trial success in dry eye.....then the "pump" starts that Gtree owns ALL THE USA RIGHTS FOR TB 4 IN EYES....a BILLION $ market.....then the stock soars in Korea....on that "pump".....but then?.....the, well.......word starts with a "D"......starts. All GTree has to do is "make sure" the dry eye Korea trial result is positive..and they become rich overnight. That;'s easier to do in Korea, not US.
My gosh, you don't have a CLUE do you. Do you do any research? you say:
"Is that why PPC was once bankrupt? Look it up. Not too silly for investors."
Yes, PPC once was bankrupt. But PPC was not owned or brought in to bankruptcy by any Brazilian. PPC was it's own company. Brazilians had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. the Brazilians on;y stepped in AFTER iPPC went into bankruptcy and the BRAZILAINS turned around PPc AFTER THEY GOT IT FROM THE BANRUPTCY COURT! Wow. the ignorance....
No, what I said is that to OUTSIDE investors no TB 4 trial has worked yet. It goes back to dry eye trial. RGRX picked only a subset of four parts of the cornea to go for trial design. The two subsections they chose as PRIMARY endpoints did not meet statistical. but two subsections of cornea that were NOt part of trial design did the statistical. Buit in minds of FDA and outside investors, the trial did not work.
which all goes back to the crucial point. RGRX has to disclose tehe trial protocols and design of the Lee's trial..we have no idea what primary endpoints they will seek. If they seek the endpoints where Ora Inc SAW statistical efficacy, then I might buy stock, that Lee's will match that over there. But how can anyone risk buying on a blind trial? We have no idea what teh design is.
Whaaaa? You say:
"As far as our share price goes our short will still work his game until revenues are on the near horizons."
Aren't you skipping a few steps? revenues? There is not yet a single statistically worthy trial of TB 4 anywhere, toi get approval or revenues!!!! . So before you hype revenues and a soaring stock.....focus on the Lee's trial.....I highly doubt that the brand new Koreans biotech company will do much of anything until they see how Lee's China trial went..and NO WAY will Koreans ever spend the many millions needed for USA trials --- until they see what Lee's comes up with. Focus on the important one....Lee's dry eye China.
Well, if that is the sum total of your knowledge and investment research...that the JBSAY chart looks "terrible"....then good luck to you, you don't have a clue of what JBS is or does.The Brazialn Real tanked with the strong dollar and collapsing oil. Over 70% of JBS revenues in US Dollars. when translated back into Reals, a fortune is made. But just as good, with the Real tanking.......it means that to buy goods in Brazil just got a lot cheaper..that means EXPORTS will grow faster and JBS is a huge exporter of products..........they are large suppliers to KFC and McDonalds....and both those companies will be buying BIG from JBS with the super strong dollar. Beef & chicken prices are much lower in Brazil as well. Mark my words....in March JBS will report a block buster quarter. And around the same time, they will make a big M&A deal, most likely a US firm (that should be PPC's acquisition). Charts are junk. In 30 years I have never once met a rich chartist.
THat is just silly. PBR is controlled by the gov't. JBSAY is controlled by the family that started it. Furthermore, over 70% of JBS revenues are in US Dollars. JBS is huge, you have no idea how big. And PPC is their piggy bank when they need a billion or so,
Yup. I figured that out a while ago. I sold PPC and bought JBSAY....in the low to mid $7's. JBSAY is a far better deal and they own 75% of PPC. But the currency swings are there.
No one on this board has figured it out. PPC is run for the pleasure of JBSAY, not PPC shareholders. This $1.5 BILLION dividend was ridiculous. PPC had a pristine balance sheet, now they will be debted up big time.for what? Siimple answer. JBSAY is using PPC as their "piggy bank savings account". So when JBSAY needed $1.2 billion cash, they made PPC pay a huge dividend. It was NOT MEANT for you retail holders! It was meant for JBS! Next up? what you will see is that JBS takes the $1.2 billion from PPC and JBS buys a very big company....a chunk of it paid for BY YOU SHAREHOLDERS of PPC!....thank you $1.2 billion. the company that JBS buys shoudl have, by all rights, been bought by PPC, so PPC can diversify from chicken.. Didn't happen. PPC is worse off for it. FIRST because they will soon be debted up about $2 billion. And SECOND.....JBS is taking the next company themselves, when PPC is the one in need of diversiying beyond tight chicken margins usually. IMO? in next 3 years you will make far more $$ in JBSAY, than PPC.
You never answered a single thing I said. you just go back to ancient SCLN? ONE stock? I been doing this a long time and I own and play many stocks. What I lost in SCLN was made back within a year. Not big deal....and it washed other profits i had that year as well.
But back to RGRX. If the Korea and China soon dry eye trials are so wonderful and exciting, why did RGRX leaop at the chance to exit all USA rights for eyes for $1 million and a few other things? That eye NK phase 3 approved orphan trial is worth far more than that to some pharma. And as I said, if Lee's trial dry eye works...the USA rights are worth 10, 20, 30 times the $1 million RGRX just soldl them for. This is a so-so deal - at best. What it guarentees is that Finkelstein always wins. There's enough money to pay him $125,000 a year for a good handful of years. he wins. If trials flop, Finkle loses on stock, but he still pass "Go" and collects $125,000 regardless. No matter what happens, Finkel Tinkel wins.
It's a so so deal, for RGRX. Between the FDA granting RGRX Orphan status for eye NK, and then the FDA approvong direct to a Phase 3 trial..then why on earth did RGRX sell ALL the eye area..eye NK and dry eye too.....for $1 million for ALL US rights? Do you know what a big & real pharma pays to get a drug up to the Phase 3 stage? Tens or even hundreds of millions. So RGRX has a Phase 3 orphan trial OKAYED by FDA......worth barely $1 million??? And also, if you are so confident in the China trial, and Korea.why didn't Finkel wait to see if China trial wins. Because if China trial wins, USA rights for Phase 3 trial Orophan eye NK and druy eye are worth 10-20...maybe 30 TIMES the $1 million he just took. He'll probably only get $1 million for neuro now.
Glad you're bidding! I hope you make a killing. i'm holding pat.
Nah, It's pretty clear to me the game plan by Finkel..is to sell off what USA rights he can......he's sold skin and today sold eyes, for $1 million........so my guess is he tries to sell neuro next for $1 million. Neuro has backing of Henry Ford's research. I doubt there's much interest in heart, yet.
So then RGRX collects and sits on a few million $$. RGRX no l;onger does any trial, nor any pre clinical work. They roll down to a 2 room office and let almost all who still around, go. Finkel and Goldie will still collect their $$..Finkies all set. He'll then get $125,000 a year for playing computer games and waiting for others to do trials. But if these are the best deals he can get.....then he had no choice. But I honestly thought Ora Inc woudl have found one of their big eye clients willing to pay more than $1 million for eyes.
If the Lee's trial in China dry eye starts sometime soon......and that trial works? Then it wil look awfully stupid that Finkel sold all USA eye rights for $1 million. The fact that Finkel did not WAIT for the China trial results, is a clue of is confidence in it ?????. he took anything he could get, beforehand. ME? I woudl have gambled and waited for Lee's to finish.
You missed it again, bo. The dilution risk of 5.5 million shares to G Tree is NOTHING compared to what woudl happen if RGRX decided to sell 40 or 50 MILLION shares at 10 cents to fund a trial like neuro. The 5 million dilution from G Tree is nothing compared to that risk. Disagree all you want....but the fact that RGRX sold G Tree all skin rights for almost nothing and sold G tree all USA eye rights for $1 million and some royalty and small JV interest........that leads that all RGRX can get for neuro or heart is maybe $1 million. So after RGRX sells all USA eyes for $1 million, my guess is they will try to do the same for heart or neuro....$1 million and royalty. Then there are no more stock sale diluting and RGRX not belly up anytime soon. But then RGRX just becomes a shell of a company.....waiting on otherst o do trials. Guess that is better tyhan RGRX doing them.
Hey, you take it as negative, I see it as just the truth. G Tree already got USA rights for all TB 4 in skin area for almost nothing. G Tree just got ALL the TB 4 eye area for $1 million. So G Tree got all skin and eye. Only area left is neuro. henry Ford will probably find somone to take it, since now RGRX has done a USA deal for TB 4 rights for only $1 million. Once RGRX sells neuro , then that is it. All RGRX does is pay the office rent and Finkel plays computer games and waits. The only other possibility is cosmetic fragments. But it read to me like G Tree got all TB 4 skin rights?
The only over the top good news I saw is that RGRX will have enough money now to just sit and wait. But the MM's were playing RGRX for either more massive dilution, or what they really wanted..RGRX bankrupt. No more big dilution, and RGRX will not go BK anytime soon.
I'm not that excited about the news G Tree is getting USA dry eye and eye NK TB 4 rights. They are unproven entity. It also points that RGRX sold all the eye TB 4 rights for $1 million, and royalties if any later. Now, why couldn't Ora Inc find a large US or European eye pharma client they have, to take TB 4 for eyes for a measly $1 million? I guess no interest. So maybe RGRX had no choice.
The other good or bad is that RGRX just set the price precident. A major TB 4 indication for ALL USA rights, can be bought for $1 million. RGRX just did. SO??? That just set the porice for the TB 4 in neuro areas...price for thatt is now $1 million only. no pharma will pay RGRX $5 or $10 million for TB 4 neuro, if G Tree got eyes for $1 million. So what this tells me is that RGRX will now offer to sell TB 4 neuro for around $1 million. At that point, RGRX is DONE as an entity ongoing. Then all RGRX is a "sitter". RGRX won't do anymore thrial thus, others will. RGRX won't do any more pre clinical, all done. RGRX just sits and lets Lee's, G Tree and whoever buys neuro for $1 million......and if any work, RGRX just collects royalty or milestones. The REALLY GREAT news is that the MM's who are short a few million RGRX, play it for RGRX going bankrupt and to ZERO. RGRX is not going BK now. RGRX is selling all it's TB 4 rights. then RGRX pays office rent and a couple salaries and WAITS it out. Bankrupt won't happen for a couple/few years and only if every trial flops. MM'sp layed RGRX as BK much sooner. Won't happen now.
It is a double edged sword, this stock purchase. If they don't do it, RGRX does not get $825,000 which puts RGRX in financial straits. but if Koreans do buy the stock, RGRX get's $825k....BUT RGRX ALSO get's a lot more DILUTION...because it is 5,500,000 more new shares. Dilution always hurts. That is why you see so many shares offered for sale, be it by a long or a short..dilution. Only thing to savve will be significant news...like a partner deal with REAL big pharma. Korea trial will mean little. Lee's will mean much more. But since most people believe that TB 4 flopped in USA dry eye, they thus believe it won't work in China dry eye. So even on the news that Lee's STARTS the China dry eye..few people outside this board will care. Which is why it is SO CRITICAL that RGRX disclose all the Lee's trial protocol! But somthing tells me RGRX will not disclose......and without that disclosure no one outside of us will play the China trial....and we soon get diluted again.
Opps! Do a searcgh for the journal 'Expert Opinion in Biological Therapy".......the early online edition posted Jan 22.......the first article is by Dr. Chopp..but there is a SEWCOND TB 4 abstract about reserachers doing a mouse study of TB 4 in 'Sepsis". Here is abstract......TWO abstracts TB 4 same Journal.
"Objective: The actin polymerization regulator Thymosin β4 (Tβ4) has been shown to be involved in angiogenesis, wound healing, cell survival and anti-inflammatory responses. We have previously shown that Tβ4 is capable of recruiting pericytes, thus stabilizing the endothelial barrier function. Here, we analyzed whether treatment with Tβ4 is able to reduce the pericytes loss in lipopolysaccharides (LPS)-induced sepsis and to improve the hemodynamic function and survival in C57BL/6 mice.
Methods: Fourteen days before LPS injection, the mice were injected with an adeno-associated virus carrying the Tβ4 (rAAV.Tβ4) or LacZ gene (rAAV.LacZ). A sepsis-severity score was assessed, and non-invasive hemodynamic and permeability measurements were performed. Heart and muscle samples were analyzed for PECAM-1+ capillaries and NG2+pericytes.
Results: At 36 h, there was a decrease of sepsis severity score in rAAV.Tβ4-treated animals as compared to rAAV.LacZ-treated control. rAAV.Tβ4-treated animals displayed lower perivascular leakage and higher blood pressure compared to control. Of note, the rAAV.Tβ4 group showed a higher pericyte count in heart and peripheral muscle samples. Finally, Tβ4-treatment reduced mortality compared to control.
Conclusion: The data indicate a preventive role of Tβ4 in septic hypercirculation and highlight Tβ4 as a potential therapeutic target in severe sepsis."
Maybe some day someone will care......I think this is abstract 4,982 on TB 4 work.
New abstract out by Dr. Chopp of Henry Ford on TB 4 and neuro. More of a summary type piece. Read well. But I wish they (or someone else) woudl pick up teh ball with it. Henry ford's done about 6 years pre clinocal stuff....time to poop or get off the pot and do something. Get more info on it PubMed.
"Thymosin β4 as a restorative/regenerative therapy for neurological injury and neurodegenerative diseases.
Chopp M1, Zhang ZG.
Thymosin β4 (Tβ4) promotes CNS and peripheral nervous system (PNS) plasticity and neurovascular remodeling leading to neurological recovery in a range of neurological diseases. Treatment of neural injury and neurodegenerative disease 24 h or more post-injury and disease onset with Tβ4 enhances angiogenesis, neurogenesis, neurite and axonal outgrowth, and oligodendrogenesis, and thereby, significantly improves functional and behavioral outcomes. We propose that oligodendrogenesis is a common link by which Tβ4 promotes recovery after neural injury and neurodegenerative disease. The ability to target many diverse restorative processes via multiple molecular pathways that drive oligodendrogenesis and neurovascular remodeling may be mediated by the ability of Tβ4 to alter cellular expression of microRNAs (miRNAs). However, further investigations on the essential role of miRNAs in regulating protein expression and the remarkable exosomal intercellular communication network via exosomes will likely provide insight into mechanisms of action and means to amplify the therapeutic effects of Tβ4."
There's nothing bogus what I said. Why is it you KEEP quoting end of quarter results THAT ARE FROM THE 3RD QUARTER! they are meaningless! You won't have teh latest Q4 numbers till early February.
Second, have you READ any of the news releases??? In second week of Dec 2014, PPC retired $500 million of 7 7/8% debt. So DON'T keep quoting Q3 stats! PPC had before that $856 million cash. They used $500 million of that in december to buy back $500 million debt. That leaves $356 million. But PPC is soon to close on buying Tyson's Mexican operations for $400 million. But PPC only has cash $356 million. That puts PPC in the hole for $34 million. THEN? with a negative $34 million, PPC pays a $1.5 billion special dividend. So that, with the negative $36 milion means PPC is in the hole $1.536 BILLION. Next? PPC only announced that it got a BANK loan for $600 million from RaboBank to help pay the dividend. Bank loans and bank lines of credit are usually short term in nature. They are a good way to finance until PPC can hit up the debt market and sell a ton of bonds. PPC has to pay the $1.5 bill dividend, they have to pay $400 million for Tyson Mexico....and they have to refinace the $500 million debt they retired. The good news is that when PPC hits up a big debt offering, rates will be very low and favorable. Still? i'm "neutrally positive" on PPC, but not excited about it now. It's clear to me that JBS is now using PPC for it's piggy bank, So JBS can use PPC's money (YOUR MINORITY SHAREHOLDERS MONEY) $1.2 billion so they can buy the next deal for themselves, NOT PPC!
Don't get your hopes up for "double news" next week. everything in China takes a lot longer than one wishes. Only way to speed things up was a little" graft"..but China has cracked down on that....so probably in reaction, thos ethat used to depend on it..but can't now...slow things down as a reaction. I hope it is soon......but be prepared to wait perhaps up to the full 10 months. hope not. And this Korea outfit? they are secondary. No big pharma looking at TB 4 trials will give what they do much creedence. Korea is just aas corupt. And this G-Treechanges it's company business every few years. One year iG Treeis a high tech business......this year it's biotech.. but Lee's is the real deal, and their trial results will be noticed. Hope they are good