totally different, plug power is fuel cells, HEC is internal combustion and HEC is concentrating on power generation, plug on warehouse type vehicles, replacing battery packs and IC engines.
that was tiny news for a solar company, big news for a battery company.
solar city is up at least 500% this year.
why do you think it's up? btw, that news came out on the 5th and SCTY did jump on the 5th.
hydrogen has a lot of industrial uses including cooling generators, hydrogenation, it's a multibillion dollar industry. so the pure H2 can be sold to H2 distributors, AIR GAS, LINDE, directly to businesses, used in fuel cells. can't drink it like ethanol though. so there is a market for it that doesn't depend on govt subsidies like ethanol. but admittedly need the surplus electricity and possibly carbon limits to make this model viable,.
look at hydrogen fuel cell stocks, they all went up after PLUG reported.
zbb looks ok to someone doing 5minutes of DD
gotta wonder why anyone buys an illiquid, low float stock like smid that you can't flip very easily. another dividend might be possible but they don't have as much cash as last time.
always a chance of a buyout. pure speculation.
thanks for the advice.
i still believe in santa claus.
just amazed at the effort people put into pumping tmen when only news matters.
what? your're saying this is a risky investment? that an unnamed person at TMEN told you they are working hard? freakin amazing DD.
that's right up there with copy/pasting from STWS, the poster child for hype.
thanks for the bloomberg link. so far TMEN has no significant partner, might be wrong.
what is posted on this board ain't going to affect the company. the big shareholders will determine if they survive.
if you want to see CTO, CEO, PRESIDENT, and RIEMER in action there are youtube videos of 2 shareholder meetings and CTO-ENGLE giving a presentation.
what specific opportunities? you've done what, 10minutes of DD on SOTK and then pumped it on other boards? what a yerk. What do you think they do?
as far as management, they are very conservative to say the least. they aren't willing to spend money on IR/PR's. They redid their website and did some cosmetic changes to IR. Last executive hire was in around 2005, REIMER was hired to develop products for the food industry.
tbull, i have no idea how much experience you have as an investor but an experienced investor would have sold most if not all of their shares a long time ago, and immediately after the reverse split was announced, that's the kiss of death. this market is red hot and you could have made money by throwing darts at DOW stocks. companies like ZBB are for trades, maybe letting a few shares ride unless they growing revenue rapidly and/or a potential takeover target. look at capstone, after all these years only those who traded their stock have made a penny. they could have the greatest product, greatest management, it ain't going to matter in this sector. look at UQM, they make motors, etc. for hybrid/electric vehicles, are still just a trade, they announce a small contract, stock goes up and sells off, they have never made a profit, tough business.
you have my sympathy but a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, sell, take your loss and heck, buy boeing when there's a correction. if zbb doubles the next day, who cares, there's always another trade.
i own a stock DXPE. Listen to their last CC, when asked if the company could continue their growth rate, the CEO said something like, "yea, we haven't killed all the competition yet". that's a company i'll hold. i could care less what they do, well kind of care, i'm investing in that ceo.
i'm suprised they have lasted this long. it's amazing how investors think these type of companies which depend on govt subsidies to survive - look at the number of solar companies that went out of biz when subsidies were reduced - where the threshold to entry isn't that high and there are numerous competing technologies, not just batteries - are anything but the riskiest of investments and thus should just be traded. discussing strategy, management, incompetence, etc. is silly, they were formed when a.e. was HOT, you couldn't get financing today to start a zbb, there's no real market yet for large storage batteries in the u.s. these companies were depending on ever increasing electricity prices, a carbon tax and/or cap/trade and subsidies - they never happened. and if you couldn't see the hype potential after that hawaiin elevator project that took forever to go live and whose hawaiin partner looked like a flake your're blind or worse.
the other problem i see which probably doesn't matter is they are in wisconsin when the biggest potential u.s. market is in california.
they need a few big sales to hang on, maybe they will get them. just an ignorant opinion but kept me from getting burned. should have listened moose.
takes one to know one!
read the 10q, guess that's a positive that they are still filing rather than going dark.
they have secret testing going on in multiple places and don't give investors any details. amazing. and chicago found out about it, i'm going to be rich!!!