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soccertese2006 30 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 28, 2014 7:00 PM Member since: May 3, 2006
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  • google "Ontario to Become Energy Lab with 34MW of ‘All-of-the-Above’ Energy Storage"
    Describes the 5 projects.


    The projects are expected to cost about $14 million per year, or about $42 million over a three-year period, and are the first to be awarded under a broader mandate to bring 50 megawatts to the province by the end of 2014. IESO highlighted that it considers this cost "very competitive relative to comparable storage projects," but didn't break out the costs by individual project.

    The participants will be required to provide one of two types of fast-reacting ancillary services for IESO. The first is frequency regulation, a service being provided by batteries, backup generators, variable loads and other non-traditional resources for grid operators like mid-Atlantic PJM.

    The second is providing voltage control and reactive power support, a service that’s becoming increasingly important for Ontario and other regions with lots of intermittent wind and solar power to integrate into the grid.

  • soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jul 28, 2014 6:25 PM Flag

    This is a little different than the EON deal it seems, more like a reverse power purchase agreement, HYGS/ENBRIDGE get paid to store power and deliver it as needed. So you have HYGS/ENBRIDGE I think having to finance the project, I assume they can bring in other partners to share the financing/profits if they want? Lots of general info to sift thru from the ONTARIO IESO, specific numbers, I can't find them. EON I think was more we'll pay HYGS to build the plant and run it.

  • soccertese2006 by soccertese2006 Jul 28, 2014 3:13 PM Flag

    CGA = canadian gas association
    Pick 1st link dated Dec 12, 2013

    Enbridge, Hydrogenics and CGA developing Ontario pilot project

    2 MW design rating; 25% overdrive capability

    Targeting construction in 2014 with renewable hydrogen injection into pipeline system

    Screening for Alberta host site; 5 -10 MW Power-to-Gas project

    Future scale; 5 to 50 MW distributed systems

    Advocating for market rules that support storage investments in North American markets

    Demonstrate benefits of distributed, modular, scalable storage with short construction periods
    Hydrogenics Electrolyzer Underground Gas Storage

    Looks like ENBRIDGE also investing in flywheels? Temporal Power

  • google "New Electricity Storage Projects Set the Stage for Further Grid Modernization" to get more info about the 5 storage projects awarded by ontario and follow the links to get more info. HYGS had to compete to get picked and they are on the list, not ENBRIDGE. They are obviously partners though, the bigger issue is they got their foot in the door to prove their technology and it seems ONTARIO will pay them incentives to provide services to the ONTARIO IESO. Not sure how the initial cost is funded. Ultimately ONTARIO wants 50MW of storage.
    Devil is in the details.

  • Reply to

    NSB Advisors, LLC

    by sixers Jul 19, 2014 8:40 AM
    soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jul 19, 2014 2:25 PM Flag

    lot's of companies fit that description and they picked sotk and i doubt it was based on just the double digit guidance they gave for q2. shareholder meeting might be more interesting this year.

    they don't seem like a pump/dump firm. and sotk has no IR firm.

  • Reply to

    NSB Advisors, LLC

    by sixers Jul 19, 2014 8:40 AM
    soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jul 19, 2014 10:11 AM Flag

    yea, i saw that, quite a surprise. last big investor in sotk was norman pessin and his wife who owned about 5.6% but don't report anymore, he is an old fashioned value investor, no games.
    it will be fun trying to figure out if there is more going than just bbuy and hold, , tough to unload that many shares.
    wonder if sotk got their attn. at that n.y. investor conference, will have to look at trading history.
    this investor/adviser has taken large positions in small illiquid companies before but i don't think any otc and sotk seems to be the smallest yet.
    wonder if it's his client's money or his own, William F. Nicklin, Manager

  • soccertese2006 by soccertese2006 Jul 18, 2014 2:42 PM Flag

    just had to post something. otherwise speechless.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • VOLUME pretty small so maybe nothing but strange to say the least.

  • soccertese2006 by soccertese2006 Jul 10, 2014 1:05 PM Flag

    what next, cats sleeping with dogs? earnings out by the 15th i think.

  • By Ken Ribotsky.

    Pharmaceutical companies have begun using social media for business needs and promotion, yet have been hesitant to become too engaged since the FDA’s stance on social media activity remained unclear. But now that we know the FDA’s specific guidelines for pharma companies’ actions online, it’s time for brands to consider diving into the social media pool.

    What FDA Regulations Mean for You
    But before we dive in too deep, here’s a refresher on what the FDA guidelines do:

    They clearly define interactive promotional media as “modern tools and technologies that often allow for real-time communications and interactions (e.g., blogs, microblogs, social networking sites, online communities, and live podcasts) and that firms use to promote their drugs.”
    They explain that pharma companies are not responsible for user-generated content.
    They stress that it’s the company’s responsibility to monitor information disseminated on and throughout its sponsored sites and accounts.

    How to Make the Most of Social Media (Within FDA Guidelines)
    So, what does that mean for your company?

    The FDA guidelines simply outline the proper use and behavior of pharma companies utilizing social media, just as there are guidelines for drug testing, marketing, and label warnings. With this new information, here’s what your company should do:

    Establish a company presence on social media. If your brand is not already engaged in social media, start today. It’s a great way to promote products, connect with consumers, and shape the conversation surrounding your brand, rather than let the online community shape it for you.

    Pay close attention to alliances with third-party sites. Your company is responsible for any promotion when you have any influence or control on third-party sites. Third parties don’t like to be told what to do, and they often use your material as they see fit — even if it contradicts your original intent. Choose and monitor your partnerships wise

  • 50 day moving avg is 1.09, 200 day moving avg is 1.08 so pretty good support here imho.

  • soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jun 30, 2014 9:14 AM Flag

    your're stating an opinion or do you know something i don't about what motivates peter?
    for one thing, the numbers i posted are not official company numbers, peter might own far more shares and i think you have to include options, i assume they come into play in a takeover. so anyway, it seems they haven't filled any of the positions advertised on their website in months so what's that all about, are they just not updating that page? strange imho. keeping that up to date is part of IR.

  • soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jun 30, 2014 9:08 AM Flag

    it would be nice to have updated ownership. at least we know their financials can pass an audit but insider ownership is conspicuously missing. maybe it's out there but i can't find it.

  • assume 50,000,000 shares including options, not sure if those should be included, but at .20/share that's $10mill market cap, still less than 1x revenue.
    the would have to get their financials audited for i think 3 years to uplist? have to check that. and the audited 10k's they put out are still missing things like exec. salaries, insider ownership, bios so one could wildly speculate that another reason besides wanting to raise equity, uplist, prove to customers they were fiscally sound would be to make it easier to sell the company. assume they could get 1.5-2x revenue? of course also depends on tangible assets, IP, management, staff.

    very wild speculation here but management ain't getting any younger and i think they control lot of shares/options that aren't very liquid right now.
    i've gone onto the SEC website and looked at 10SB12G filed back in 2007, shows friedman with 708,000 shares possibly much more if he exercised options,
    someone named jay friedman owning around 2mill, some other non-employee large owners, so anyone have a link to docs, with more current numbers?

    sorry if i missed something obvious here.

  • i actually own STWS just as a trade because they give great hype but financials are a mess, but they might actually deliver on the hype, who knows? i posted this because they partnered with TMEN, seems like it was a brief partnership or are they still friends? doesn't seem so. these are the deals TMEN was supposed to get? assuming they are real deals.

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    in my opinion i think this company is done.

    by tmen_arp_zebs Jun 23, 2014 9:51 AM
    soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jun 24, 2014 2:41 PM Flag

    i'm not so sure about gelbaum, he may have lost most of his wealth, hundreds of millions, investing in +30 speculative investments including over $50mill on entech -he's still their ceo and single board member, share price around .003 - so imho you aren't convincing anyone by using his wisdom as part of that argument. no doubt he's brilliant but what bad luck. enuf said, best of luck, just had to respond to the world's 2nd worst pumper ghvann1

  • Reply to

    in my opinion i think this company is done.

    by tmen_arp_zebs Jun 23, 2014 9:51 AM
    soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jun 24, 2014 11:29 AM Flag

    based on history, the stock usually goes down when ghvann1 posts. now that i think about it, the stock goes down when anyone posts, my bad.
    what i don't understand is why gelbaum hasn't sold his shares, he's baled out of other companies and taken a loss, EFOI, AXPW.

  • soccertese2006 by soccertese2006 Jun 17, 2014 10:46 AM Flag

    20,000 @ .12 at the close yesterday
    22,201 @.12 this morning
    buyer seems to be in a hurry
    might just be a head fake, might not

  • Reply to

    Oxx Mixxer

    by mudrackers Jun 13, 2014 11:39 AM
    soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jun 15, 2014 10:51 AM Flag

    yea, your're thinking too hard larry. they just announced "were're still here".

  • Reply to

    Oxx Mixxer

    by mudrackers Jun 13, 2014 11:39 AM
    soccertese2006 soccertese2006 Jun 13, 2014 11:50 AM Flag

    someone called cape verde wind llc has a website. the new mixer, who knows? let's hope it's cautious good news.

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