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soontostray 317 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 3, 2015 12:20 AM Member since: Jul 31, 2001
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  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 3, 2015 12:20 AM Flag

    Did I miss a 2nd BASF press release? Earlier you leaped from exploring marketing opportunities to prototype manufacture, and now you`ve leaped from the North American market to global marketing. Or have some of those fantasy Island dots been added to shape the debate into what suits the cheer leaders agenda?

    Let`s look at the real status quo......

    They have BASF "aggressively" marketing Electriplast.
    They are paying $100,000 a month to consultants for marketing advice.
    They have Hahwha looking for customers for their dedicated Electriplast line.
    They have opened an Asian sales office to help find customers.
    They have "engaged" a China based agent
    Delphi has failed so far.
    Chang Rim has failed so far.
    East Penn Manufacturing has failed so far.
    Jasper Rubber failed.
    Lear failed.
    The US Military walked away.
    7-8 licensee`s failed.


    All of this effort for a 9 year old replacement technology that has yet to find it`s first real customer. It`s pretty obvious why you`ld like me to sell and go away.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone.....and self proclaimed chief of the Fantasy Island dot police.

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 2, 2015 7:45 PM Flag

    Less than 2 years? Ha, ha. It`s funny that the same cheer leaders that are so quick to make excuses for the 5 month old still failed global commercialization claim, also want us to believe that whoever at BASF signed that LOI just woke up one morning and said; I think I`ll go find an obscure company with an unmarketed technology and help them find a customer.

    The same cheerleaders that are convinced that BASF is making prototypes to oem`s specs. The LOI they signed with Integral said nothing of the sort. " to jointly explore the North American market for ElectriPlast's patented line of conductive thermoplastics. The two companies will approach key OEMs and Tier 1 manufacturers with opportunities for conductive thermoplastics as a lightweight material alternative to metals." How did we get from marketing opportunities to prototype manufacture?

    OEM`s make prototypes. Tier 1 manufacturers make prototypes. Think Lear. Think Delphi. They have the manufacturing resources, the engineering resources, and the real customer relationships to support such efforts. If you think you know otherwise, I`d like to see your proof.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 2, 2015 4:41 PM Flag

    A 9 year old replacement technology that you are claiming will change the world of manufacturing.....but hasn`t convinced a single manufacturer......worldwide. This isn`t a 2 year old promise at all. It`s a 9 year old problem....and I`m just the messenger.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 2, 2015 4:00 PM Flag

    Marketing is the promise, SELLING is the delivery. BASF has been "promising" for almost 2 years. I find it hard to believe that "a tier one partner the size of BASF" came into this expecting that 2 years later they would still be looking for their first sale. The time for vague, open ended excuses is long past.

    What`s the problem?

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 2, 2015 2:18 PM Flag

    "just selling pellets of EP ". That would be a good start. We have been hearing about EP pellet commercialization from every management team since Bill Robinson claimed "2006 will be our go to market year". I would suggest that if anyone is "off the reservation" it would be the current management. A dozen false starts that have led to nothing in the last 2 1/2 years.......all documented in their own press releases and SEC filings.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 1, 2015 6:12 PM Flag

    I suggest you call Doug and share your speculations with him. He`s the one that came up with the 4-6 week global commercialization timeline.....5 months ago.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 1, 2015 6:02 PM Flag

    During the Q&A, Doug was asked about competitors. Doug replied that aluminum was their biggest competitor.

    FWIW, spot aluminum closed at a bit over $0.76 cent a pound today. That`s down almost 40% from it`s 5-year high. That price, it`s important to note, does not include any 3rd party licensing fees. Manufacturing capabilities, inventories, and capacities have been established for decades. As have the been the associations with existing supply chain members.....on both the supplier and customer side.

    And how much could Integral`s licensing fee piece of the pie be for a product that it claims to be cheaper than $0.76 a pound? A penny? Two pennies? 5 cents? My calculator says that at 5 cents a pound, they would have to collect a licensing fee for 2 million pounds of Electriplast EVERY MONTH, just to cover their consulting fees. Three times that to even begin to show a profit.

    BASF deserves a piece of the profit pie also. So does Conductive composites. As do Nova or Hanwha. And we`ve only gotten as far as the manufactured Electriplast pellet. Do the math.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 1, 2015 5:08 PM Flag

    "even Sts is having trouble finding anything new to post" Ha, ha, ha. When you limit your narrative to facts and obvious reality, you also limit your choices. The Fantasy Island crowd have no such restrictions. Every new fluff article, every cow that jumps over the moon, every trumped up tsunami, is fodder for their liberal imaginations. Reality carries no weight. If you can smear a bit of lipstick on it....let it fly.

    On the other hand, my limited financial involvement doesn`t commit me to a position of feeling I need to do something. Those who let others do their DD for them, or that chose to shoot first and ask questions later, are not necessarily so lucky.

    Caveat emptor

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Commerical Announcment

    by itkg25 Jun 30, 2015 7:36 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jul 1, 2015 3:30 PM Flag

    Actually, it`s not all that complex at all. It`s called a supply chain and anyone in the manufacturing world in the last 20 years knows it`s components inside and out. A CEO trying to commercialize a manufactured product would know that. A CEO whose primary interest is selling stock....not so much.

    Caveat emptor

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Doug's monthly update

    by skcots.picker Jun 30, 2015 3:54 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 30, 2015 4:36 PM Flag

    That reminds me..... what ever happened to that "global commercialization" claim? My calendar says tomorrow will be 21 weeks!! Over 5 months!! And now we find out that even within his own original time frame, he was pumping ITKG shares to potential Korean investors. Not the sort of thing you would expect from a CEO that thinks global commercialization is imminent........and as we all know now.....it wasn`t.

    Over promise, under deliver......sells stock.....not product.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 30, 2015 4:19 PM Flag

    Your words, not mine. This is what happens when the cheer leaders start connecting the dots. When they don`t see what they want to see, they just create their own dots. Fantasy Island dots, usually designed to discredit another poster.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 30, 2015 3:31 PM Flag

    I don`t think that`s what I said. Better work on those comprehension skills. Used to try.......Is what I said.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 30, 2015 3:24 PM Flag

    "Closet issues" Ha, ha. I`ve asked his wife on a number of occasions, (by forwarded E-mail) to help us out with his obsessive perve...... . This board and my saved E-mails are filled with his "claimed" associations with the mothers, wives, and daughters, of any poster who dares to disagree with his financial opinions.

    All products of a sick, sorry, little mind.

    Not A Stranger....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 30, 2015 3:11 PM Flag

    Have you bought one? Have you bought anything that has one in it? Has anyone? Does anyone even know....for a fact....where one can be purchased? A two year old prototype that hasn`t found a market....just like everything else he used as props to try to dupe potential Korean shareholders.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Industry Articles

    by bill1280 Jun 29, 2015 1:14 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 29, 2015 11:32 PM Flag

    How would anyone know, with any degree of accuracy, what their real involvement is? The NDA`s, remember.

    What we do know is that none have purchased significant production quantities of Electriplast. Nor have they apparently been able to convince or otherwise influence any of their customers to do so. Hanwha has been "involved" since before this management team came along. Integral`s Asian sales office has failed as well. BASF and Delphi must have been "involved" even before they eventually signed on as associates, so we`re looking at two years plus for both of them.....and that`s with the help of all those $100,000 a month Integral paid consultants.

    The proof of the pudding lies in the eating. No one has, or is, "involved" enough to put their money where their mouth is.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 29, 2015 11:04 PM Flag

    If you take the time to watch it to the end you will see that the SVC in the seminar title belongs to SVC media, a Korean media company.....it`s all about the presentation.....to sell stock, not product. Korean kool-ade.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    CEO PRESENTATION

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 9:50 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 29, 2015 10:29 PM Flag

    Financial seminar? Not a trade seminar...or some kind of manufacturing seminar? It took less than a minute of the video to see he was there to sell stock, not product.The cell phone antenna`s went out the window 12 years ago and the metal case for the Air Force was last seen somewhere around 2007 or 2008 as near as I can remember. It`s embarrassing that he would even use these props to try to influence ITKG stock investors.

    Sad, sad, sad.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Industry Articles

    by bill1280 Jun 29, 2015 1:14 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 29, 2015 9:58 PM Flag

    Ha, ha. Who`d of thunk it !! 11 years AFTER Popular Science claimed Electriplast was "Best of What`s New", it has yet to find sustainable revenue from a single customer. Not in Asia. Not even with the help of Hanwha and Integral`s own Asian sales office. Not in North America. Not even with the help of BASF and $100,000 a month consulting experts.

    They`ve gone from a nationally recognized and respected publication, to a contributing editor on an online penny stock web site, to the likes of seeking alpha pumping online message boards....and when all is said and done......all that`s left ...... is VAPOR.

    What`s the problem? Ha, ha, ha.

    Not A Stranger....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Industry Article 2

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 2:34 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 29, 2015 4:47 PM Flag

    If loyal shareholders are measured by doing nothing, how is the companies management to be measured? 10Q`s for the last 9 months show consulting fees of, $324,786, $365,257, and $427,325, for a total of $1,117,368. And what was the return on investment for that $1 million plus? About $1 of Electriplast sales for every $100 spent.

    This company, with it`s 9 year old marketable product, and a half dozen, high profile, but ZERO revenue producing "associations" continues to bleed money. The only reason they continue to exist is their ability to sell highly discounted authorized shares. A process began when they first went public and continues today. Press release after press release we continue to hear about growing demand and market commercialization......but nothing changes. We hear about big name associations and their promise of future revenue......but nothing changes. We hear about applied for patents that if/ when issued.......whenever, will most likely simply join the 54 other ISSUED patents Integral already owns that have not found a customer in 9 long years. And the market seems to have figured it out.

    Caveat emptor

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

  • Reply to

    Industry Article 2

    by never74291 Jun 29, 2015 2:34 PM
    soontostray soontostray Jun 29, 2015 4:44 PM Flag

    Ha. ha, Spotty would never let the facts get in his way.

    Not A Stranger.....posting from a kool-ade free zone

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