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spinbutton1000 97 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 19, 2014 6:08 PM Member since: Aug 25, 2004
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  • Reply to

    split coming?

    by hilemann Jul 18, 2014 3:35 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Aug 19, 2014 6:08 PM Flag

    Agree with your price history information. Stock is overdue to split unless company is concerned about total number of shares outstanding. Most likely a 2-for-1 split but wouldn't complain if it was a 3-for-1 split. One time in the past the company didn't split when the stock was over $ 100 and The Street "split" it for them by selling off the stock into the $ 80's I believe. So, I'm sure management is wary of that happening again. Sure looks like onward and upward from here 'tho. Good core holding for long-term investors.

    Regards,

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Sep 3, 2013 5:55 PM Flag

    Well, SB is just adding to his growing "lagacy". The stock price has lagged, the company's innovation has lagged, the company's production and market timing has lagged, and now he purchases a company that truly is the poster child for lagging in so many different ways. Really, there was no other handset company to buy since SB's decision-making acumen has lagged to the point Microsoft is The Last one to act. It's pitiful but SB still has the audacity and the arrogance to shovel more BS in our grills by saying this deal is good for the company and good for stockholders. MSFT will continue to be the running joke on Wall Street that it already is. SB, please take all of your BS and just go away before you actually do more damage, if that's even possbile. Get out now and go play with your NBA team fantasies. Make sure the door does hit you on the backside on the way out so as to jettison your departure even faster.

    Sentiment: Sell

  • Reply to

    Beancounters Ruined This Company

    by spinbutton1000 Nov 29, 2012 4:28 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Mar 11, 2013 5:21 AM Flag

    You've made my point for me . . . . I'm talking about the bean counters after the buyout who knew very little about runing a casino business. All they looked at were numbers and made decisions in a vacuum. They've ruined this company and now have the company buried under too much debt. Employee morale is nothing like before, and the general atmosphere for the workers (and players) has changed for the worst. Trust me this online gaming thing for CZR is smoke and mirrors as the figures don't lie altho' the liars are doin' plenty of figurin'.

  • Hey Warmy!!

    Where are ya? Where did u go? Dying to hear how your short trade is workin' out for ya. Please don't leave us all in suspense. Also, any more info on YOUR allegations about SBUX's fudgin' their books. Can't wait to hear what you have to say about that.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Did SBUX fudge their books??

    by warmninja Feb 20, 2013 8:34 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Mar 5, 2013 3:34 AM Flag

    Fudged books? Quick downfall?? Seriously??? Is this all you've got to support your short position???!!!?? So, I still ask you, how's this short workin' out for ya? My cost is in the teens, so I don't worry about any noise! You however, could lose lots! Hope your inside information is good. I'm sure it would be addressed at the stockholders' meeting, right? Stock has been holding steady here in the mid-50's and doesn't look like it wants to go down, so what'cha gonna do, Warmy?

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Weakness just awful

    by fx24us Feb 20, 2013 3:19 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Mar 5, 2013 3:24 AM Flag

    Hey Warmy!!

    How's your SBUX short workin' out for ya?? $ 36.50 . . . . pipe dream or pure delusion? Cover yet?

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Am I the only one holding this stock?

    by mercker1 Feb 20, 2013 5:30 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Mar 5, 2013 3:11 AM Flag

    Obviously not, as evidenced by the institutions that "recently" moved into this stock. Yours Truly has had this through the Pioneer Behavioral Health(PHC) buyout. Original cost for those shares was $ 0.67/share, which obviously was re-adjusted for the buyout tantamount to a reverse split kinda pricing. Been selling tiny pieces of this all they way up from $ 9 or so. Still have over half my position but with so little info about ACHC, I'm leaning toward reducing my holdings. Not many people know about or much about this company. The stock has moved so far so fast since the PHC buyout that it is somewhat extended. You have any more thoughts?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Weakness just awful

    by fx24us Feb 20, 2013 3:19 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Feb 20, 2013 5:46 PM Flag

    Uhhhh, b4 y'all get all hot and bothered about the "weakness". Has something reeeeally changed with Starbuck's business? Haven't seen it in the still long, (altho' not as long as years past) customer lines at various Starbucks I visit. Coffee bean prices are heading downward, so how is that bad for the company? Today's drop in price happened in the midst of below average volume, so again, it's no biggie. Besides, the annual stockholders' meeting is coming up and somehow regardless of what is happening, the stock price seems to start climbing and climaxing, so it'll go toward $ 62.50 before it starts movin' toward $ 36.50. Short this stock now at your own peril.

  • Reply to

    Wall Street Clerks Wrong Again

    by spinbutton1000 Jan 31, 2013 2:15 AM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Feb 12, 2013 5:04 AM Flag

    Hey JW!!

    I just think it's kinda funny that I could recognize that you actually work for WD, which just about tells me almost all that I need to know about you, altho' I will admit based on your messages I can't really tell if you are a frustrated employee or just trying to be the "honest company man", as why would you try to object to anyone trying to make a more positive take on your company when much of The Street makes a living discounting, disregarding, and disrespecting it? I wasn't saying that I was right, only trying to make sure there was no misunderstanding about what I said and what I meant, which obviously is still a point of contention with you. I'll only be "right" if the stock eventually hits my price targets. I'm only throwing an opinion out there to stir up discussion. Your opinion is duly noted but as a stockholder, I'm disappointed at your stance. I'm not the enemy here nor am I a trader lookin' for short-term hype price pops, to which I would hope you would say "Duhh!".

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Wall Street Clerks Wrong Again

    by spinbutton1000 Jan 31, 2013 2:15 AM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Feb 2, 2013 5:29 AM Flag

    It seems u r totally missing my point. The Coke reference only is an example of a company which is well-known but is still advertising regardless who is purchasing what. WD doesn't do much in the way of advertising, especially as it relates to their consumer products upon which they are trying to expand, not hard drives. Your points about hard drives, motivations, vendors, etc., are all kinda Duhhh. It does seem like u may be working for WD since that's the kinda points their management would make. : )

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Wall Street Clerks Wrong Again

    by spinbutton1000 Jan 31, 2013 2:15 AM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Feb 2, 2013 4:13 AM Flag

    I'm not talking about merely increasing the advertising budget, (something about which their bean counters seem to be clueless anyway), or using gimmicky ads. WD needs an entire paradigm shift in terms of dealing with "negative" clerk speak, of getting who they truly are out there, of getting a vision away from the past, (Phrases like your "Retail has never . . . " no longer s/b part of their mindset), and stop letting the market sell them short, not in terms of stock trading but rather in terms of ridding the perception that they only deal with hard drive PC storage. WD is involved with da cloud and is trying to increase their participation in the consumer area. I actually like what I see in terms of product offerings, (yeah, I get it, their specialties aren't the sexiest things out there but Hey!! They nevertheless are things that are needed and necessary.), so my hope is that WD will at least sustain and eventually grow the momentum they've been building.

    You cite those percentage statistics which are fine for historical perspective but WD needs to move much farther beyond that, stop standing pat in their mentality, and take more advantage of their strategic position. With the current market P/E multiple around 14, WD needs to do the things that will get their current arbitrarily assigned P/E of only 6 expanded to something higher. Quarter after quarter, -- not that I care about each quarter like the clerks do to justify their useful existence--, WD's reports haven't been all that bad, yet they haven't been rewarded as much because of the ridiculously low P/E multiple, which at times has translated into a mere 2 P/E. Really?? How stupid that looked!! Split the difference, and say the P/E gets halfway to the market average of 14 from 6, and you see what a diference that could make in the share price, especially if WD can keep beating the clerks' pooh-poohed earnings estimates. There's much potential here but is WD ready, willing, and able to take things to the next level? That makes the difference between a $ 30-something priced stock and a $ 60 - $ 70./ priced stock going forward.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • spinbutton1000 by spinbutton1000 Jan 31, 2013 2:15 AM Flag

    Wall Street clerks have been wrong about WDC for years. Amazing that they supported STX recently just because of WDC's blow-out earnings report but tank WDC because of STX's lousy report. What's wrong with that picture? WDC has been eating STX's lunch for quite awhile now. The clerks just can't admit that they have been wrong about WDC (and STX), all this time and it's nothing more than sour grapes, plain and simple. Here's a stock with a forward P/E of only 6 but the clerks come up with every excuse not to buy the stock. It's like the broken clock being right twice a day, -- some of these clerks continue to bad mouth WDC hoping for the day that the stock sells off, so they can say I told ya so. Meanwhile, the entire time they missed the run from when WDC only was $ 10. WDC should be at least $ 60 on a valuation basis. Figures never lie but liars and bittermen clerks can figure. In the end, valuation does not lie. Love to see a short squeeze on this stock as there is no way WDC should be trading with STX in tandem. Short WDC at your own peril.

    Just to show I'm not blindly loyal to WDC. They were at the recent CES in Las Vegas. WDC management needs to advance their thinking to 2013. They want WDC to be known as WD in the marketplace, particularly in the consumer area. This is fine but how are they going to let the world know about this? Where is the investment in advertising, so that people won't think that WD is just a subsidiary of WD-40? Coke, their current SuperBowl ad notwithstanding, is committed to advertising and they are The #1 brand label out there.
    WDC is nowhere near #1 but they must start somewhere. This is another example of not managing The Street, not managing people's expectations, and WDC has been struggling at this big time. It's a whole different world now, so WDC management must adjust to this and put The 70's and The 80's far back in the rear view mirror, and take advantage of their current product position, their good financial position, and stop the insanity if they truly are committed to maximizing shareholder return. Yeah, growing pains hurt but don't stand in the way of progress and growth because you think you have to do things the exact same way you've always done them. If they can fix this and launch a decisive, effective campaign, then the short squeeze could happen a lot sooner than later. However, time's a wastin', so it's time for them to step it up!!

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • spinbutton1000 by spinbutton1000 Nov 29, 2012 4:28 PM Flag

    Well, looky here. How far down the mighty have fallen! I knew when the beancounters took over this Harrah's, then that would be the end of this wonderful company as the things they've cut back on has genuinely p'o their players. The casinos don't appreciate the Diamond players like they used to and it's sad, reeeally sad. The Diamond Lounges are a joke as there's only limited time for hot snax, and it's like there's a timekeeper there to pull off the leftovers exactly when the time is up. Even the workers don't seem as happy as in the past. Ex. slot personnel are missing out on their tips with the tighter machines. If these bean counter types were so smart, then why'd they pay $ 90 to buy us out of Harrah's stock, (of course, it probably was worth around $ 120 / share), when had they waited, they coulda had it for a song and a dance when the market really tanked just thereafter. Genius! Now this stock is barely stayin' above water down here at the $ 5 and change level. How low does it go? Too bad as the stuff goin' on probably has Mr. Harrah rollin' around in his grave.

    Regards,

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Question please

    by bulldog2830 Feb 2, 2010 1:24 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Feb 8, 2010 5:05 PM Flag

    The reason is that the Wall Street clerks are still wiping the egg off their faces for not estimating WDC's earnings properly. Now both growth managers ANNND value managers alike seem interested in the stock, which should only mean one thing: onward and upward from here, perhaps to $ 55. WDC's biz is good and their PE is still so ridiculously
    low and will go lower. Ignore the clerks and enjoy the ride higher.

    Regards,

  • spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Feb 1, 2010 8:25 PM Flag

    Well, no one ever said that the Wall Street clerks,---ERRRRR, analysts, are brilliant. What could they do since their estimates were so outta whack that they had to sell off the stock to save face? Bunch of morons . . . stock will go up, otherwise, WDC's PE will be way less than 9 going forward.

  • Reply to

    Lack of conviction either way

    by takin_care_of_bidness Jul 29, 2009 2:50 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Jul 29, 2009 4:11 PM Flag

    Well, no one ever said that Wall Street was overrunning with geniuses. Probably don't know what to do with a company that just turned in a fine performance while The Street was clueless as to what was going on. What was their EPS estimate for WDC? Oh yeah, The Street didn't miss by much. What a joke! How great . . . a person can keep their job even when it's their responsibility to know what a company is doing and then with all the info that is available to them, they make a call like the one made on WDC. Genius . . . .

  • Reply to

    The Games Continue

    by silentpartnerinavn Jun 20, 2009 9:38 AM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Jul 21, 2009 4:00 PM Flag

    I am not proud to say that I generally have been a lonnnnnng-term investor in AVNR since the Lidak days. For most of the time, I feel the management team(s) is(are) just playing some kind of game for as long as I can remember. Wasn't that reverse split just marvelous? We always would have to deal with the shorties but the LDAK/AVNR management seemingly has been inept at handling The Street, the FDA, and whoever else that matters. I realize I'm preaching to most of the choir at this point but I'm wanting to see what comes from this latest "development find". Rubber needing to meet the road? INDEED. It's been way too long as it was bad enuf we gave away Abreva at ridiculously low prices. Here's to being out of breath but not out of patience . . . yet. Just don't keep me waiting too much longer.

    Regards,

  • Reply to

    I THINK I WAS A DAY EARLY OUCH

    by nbrloser Sep 15, 2008 6:35 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 Sep 18, 2008 8:42 PM Flag

    Why would anyone put a drop of belief in RBC Capital Mkts' opinion?? Well, let's see . . . . on March 27 of this year, RBC upgraded NBR to a straight Outperform rating when the stock closed at $ 33.44. This seems like a great call given the stock did reach $ 50-1/2 for its 52-week high. However, on September 16, RBC lowers its rating back to Sector Outperform. Why does the downgrade come AFTER the stock hit as low as $ 23.10 on that day? Why didn't they downgrade it on their valuation basis when the stock hit $ 50? The downgrade comes at a price significantly below the price at the time they upgraded the stock. Huh? You wanna listen to this? Listen at your own peril . . .
    People want investigations? How 'bout investigating RBC Capital Mkts? What passes for professionalism these days is an absolute joke!!! It's a better time to buy this stock now. My three to five year price target from here is about $ 64 on strictly a valuation basis, no hype, no news, no oil crises, no stupid Wall Street clerks,---ERRRRR-, analysts' ratings. Don't own the stock as yet but looking to get in at some point.

    Regards,

  • Reply to

    Casino Gaming Fad

    by sonnydogtooo May 19, 2008 10:41 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 May 22, 2008 5:56 PM Flag

    Ahhhh, 'dogdoo

    I was wondering when you were gonna crawl over from the now defunct Station Casinos' board over to here. All y'all need to know about this guy is that he thinks the little carnival casino at Yonkers Raceway is The mecca of gambling. Yonkers Raceway is nothing more than The Home of The 2:05 mile.

    Anyway, this dog was calling for the collapse of Station Casinos telling people to short it around $ 20, then around $ 40, then around $ 60, and finally he was still calling for its demise AFTER the buyout at $ 90 was announced. We all were laughing at him as we laughed our way to the bank. However, he is The King of Pothole USA, for sure. Glad you're still up and barkin', 'dog. First to y'all he'll be amusing but then he'll get annoying if you're short on patience.

    Was just in Vegas this past entire week. Casinos I visited seemed to be doing quite well considering there was no big convention happening at the time. Casinos are still building out their properties, so they're planning ahead for prosperous times. Might get some lull in stock prices for now but that won't last too long. After all, the casinos never lose.

    Regards,

  • Reply to

    WDC Short Interest UP 2Mill

    by noahishere May 22, 2008 12:29 PM
    spinbutton1000 spinbutton1000 May 22, 2008 3:29 PM Flag

    Only 2 million? I wanna know at where the other 23 million or so geniuses jumped on the short wagon. Gotta love the shorties who make our stocks soar when they're forced to run for cover. They coulda chosen any one of a thousand prime candidates for a price breakdown but they choose WDC with a forward P/E of only 9?? Well, I guess that's what makes a market with bulls, bears, pigs, and fools. Onward and upward for WDC!!!

    Regards,

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