I thought 2.70 was a good entry point (a WAY lot better than the R/S price) for risk/reward, if the main product
continues to unfold it could still stumble out at some point but the downside is less. If successful, the big bucks will come from the pipeline.
Crash-a-tinkle, ham. Sure you have not embarrassed yourself.......down 35% doesn't mean a thing and when you add the %25 upside expected from the r/s, well you are probably good enough at basic math to figure out how far off you have pumped away. Should have listened and learned.
No breakthroughs, no surprises, no negatives so it looks like everything is on track, hopefully the price will
reflect confidence and we can wait not so far in the red from the r/s price.
Now over a 30% drop from the R/S, instead of a 30% increase from institutional investors who were supposed to flock to the higher shareprice......that is a 60% miscall for longs, we have fewer shares at a loser price. The CC will probably add a spike sure hope so, but the R/S was clearly premature. As predicted, but some of the kids that post here think a 30% drop instead of a 30% rise is nothing at all. Ha Ha.
This is really hard to call. The few sector funds don't hold that much 3D printing. and a major player like HP could turn this "industry" on its head. Just taking the chance that SSYS is nearly done with it's crash and
has enough going for it to come up with seriously disruptive technology for manufacturing, hopefully metal 3D but who knows. Doesn't seem like they are spending that much on R&D especially with the numbers they are putting out.
Cynical call, but not unfounded, it does assume the stock is being manipulated. If you take the 20,000 foot
view, this is a company that has revenue and established presence in an evolving disruptive technology. that dropped from well over a hundred to $28 in a year. You can throw in the sponge, or say it really is a buying opportunity and try to call the bottom. Interestingly, analysts are calling it both ways. I want to have something in 3D printing especially metal 3D printing for manufacturing, and this came up in the CC, so
am looking for that as well. If someone buys this at $22 or less, hats off them, they have done well, but if the industry takes off and this company stays on top of things. the $6 difference won't mean much. Honestly, this is a hard call to make, but I would rather be in than out. What I will do is sell off half the minute the shares double, if that happens.
Yes, the 15/1 split raised a .28 penny stock to what, $4.23 at the r/s, providing a downside bonanza to short....on no news as you say. The split was supposed to attract institutional buying but instead of up 25%, it is down 25%.......altogether a 50% miscall, and there is still $3.19 to go, not 20 cents. Made too early, and my sharecount is down. R/S to attract institutional investors on the downswing just makes the management look foolish to boot, and on the upswing with improving financial performance, the R/S is not necessary. R/S is only advisable when for some reason a performing stock with good fundamentals is undervalued. like AIG when it was was contaminated by a credit default swap subsidiary, but survived with strong underlying fundamentals. I'm done pointing out the obvious. Good luck.
Ham, you have got to calm down, and please be succinct, your thoughts can be expressed in a few words, too much to wade through. Best of luck.
Twice during the CC metal 3D printing for manufacturing was brought up and according to Reis R&D is well under way. This would be a breakthrough, liquidmetal is already in use maybe/hopefully SSYS is working with
those companies holding the patents to get this into the 3D printing prcess.
Be prepared to break through $3 in the wrong direction. Shareprice is alerady 25% below r/s price, instead of 25% above the r/s price from attracting institutional investors....a 50% spread. The kids with the happy talk
got this wrong of course. I bought low and sold off when the price increased on news left me a zero cost basis so I can afford to be long. The rest is just talk. Lot's of downside for traders here, but this really is a penny stock as defined by the SEC, that declared that to be under $5.
Pretty much, the prolific true believers went off to a blog long ago because they could not deal with the hard questions on an open discussion board. Jimmy still lets out information though, sometimes on REGF. Thanks to Jimmy, the rest is a closed door.
I have been in Vanguard for decades and always impressed with the low overhead and variety, but the truth is for me that the Star fund is a clunker for retirement. It has hung around the low-mid twenties forever it seems,
how many years will it take for this to pay off? Annuities have been just as good and guaranteed through the
2008 crash. Love the company, results are a shrug.
My My so sensitive, now down 25% from the r/s price......instead of up 25% from all that interest generated for institutional investors after the r/s. Never happened. You did not predict that at all, in any event I suppose an actual 25% collapse is of no significance to you.....but it is a lot more than you imagined and a major financial loss for anyone holding long. Can't argue against the hard facts, kids, the shareprice is what it is.
As you well know, I was describing the well known (or should be well known) fate of an r/s when it is declared
absent the upside financial performance, and shareprice falls and is subjected to more shorting. The excuse is to attract new institutional buyers to hold the price up and contribute to shareholder value. However the price has dropped, substantially, as predicted, rather than risen on all that market demand that did not happen. Staying down is not volatility. In my opinion, they were too early with the r/s, and may turn out they did not need one, which hurts longs. Insider shareholders do not really share your fate (unless you are one?) because if their sharecount drops, they can always grant themselves new subscription rights. I am actually long on the stock but have protected the downside. I hope they come up with another Biogen experience for shareholders, but that will require another kind of stock split (I bought Biogen at $7 several splits ago) so I can afford to dabble and have. Your problem, sonny, is that you are in love with the idea of her, rather than the woman herself, so to speak. Calm down. It is better to be lucky than smart, and in your case, indispensable...
Sense of humor please.
I agree we were looking and hoping for 30's to be the bottom after the crash, then comes along the class action suit and related quality issues. I wonder if on July 30 someone is going to put a reserve on this because it seems to be hanging over any potential comeback and the much needed financial performance improvement..
Reverse splits rarely work to shareholder advantage, because they do not change the weak fundamentals but create a downside bonanza for shorts, so unless there is actual performance in hard numbers on top of the r/s, expect the shareprice to fall right back down. The consequence is that you own a fraction of your old sharecount, at a lower price. It is called being washed out. Insiders simply issue themselves new subscription rights for new shares, that which you will never see. Everybody knows this.