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YTD up 26.31% and for 10 years up 277.04%. I can certainly live with that.

As of today, DODGX has under performed the S&P500 index for 5 and 10 year periods. I certainly would not be happy with that.

Whoops, that's 25% quarterly. 100% annually.

According to the D&C website D&C Stock had Average Annual Return of negative 1.77% thru 9/30/12. That includes dividends.

D&C lost their way, and their customers for reasons stated in my original message and others I posted on this thread. Assets are down 40 billion dollars in the last 5 years... for good reason. On top of that, to add insult to injury, long term holders paid taxes on those dividends and any capital gains distributions Just look at their top 10 holding HPQ. Then look who the largest HPQ shareholder is.

Go back even further and look at a 10 year chart (Google) vs VFINX. Pretty sad when your benchmark beats you by roughly 50%. Then look at a 5 year chart. Please don't get mad a t me when you see the returns, I'm just the messenger.

You talk about 2008, but the long/short term tells a completely different story.

Don't do to many mutuals anymore. Too many alternatives. ETF's are killing the MF industry for example. I don't do too many of those either as I pick my own stocks mostly. Buy when they are down due to short term events and hold a long, long time. Just like D&C used to do.

Rick, still here?

$150 that day over 5 years ago. Revisited to read some of my old comments on this thread.

Anyone follow my lead? Over 5% yield on my original purchase price.

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Nice list Rick. You own any MLP's? I bought KMP about 12 years ago. Been very happy. Bought TCLP back in May. Just got in the new AMLP ETF. All been like a rock in uncertain times. Tax advantaged too. (Except the ETF) Thoughts?

PS, Still holding RYN since before the last 2 splits. I believe that's the only REIT I'm still holding.

>But I bailed cause I'm finding better returns elsewhere.<

Better than 20% plus dividends in 5 months time? In what?

How nice. My dividend paid during the dip. I love reinvesting on sale almost as much as buying on sale.

>>They've lost some regulatory battles in fla recently

I know. That's why the opportunity to buy it on the cheap presented itself.

>>Probably a good place to earn 4% with limited downside

4% annual yield plus the 13% I'm up already. In just over a months time. I can live with that.

I love these boring stocks. Here's a few reasons among the many I like FPL.

They own NextEra Energy Resources. NextEra is the largest generator of wind and Solar power in north America.

P&L generates 56% of its power from natural gas, 21% from nuclear, 10% from coal and oil and the rest primarily from wind.

If Obama rams thru his Crap & Trade like he did his HC Reform this FPL will be a nice hedge.

Thanks. Looking back that certainly was a great call. But the best advice I remember giving on this board was "Throw in some CORE holdings of Balanced Funds" on Jan. 1st 2008. My favorite is VWINX which I have written about many times before. Lost just under 10% last year while the rest of the market tanked. I hate losing 10%, but it certainly was better that losing almost 40% in the S&P. Add the fact that it's up almost 7% COMPOUNDED (remember the rule of 72?)over the last 10 years vs the S&P500 flat and ....."I sleep VERY well each night". Just like I said.

Happy Investing!

SF

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