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straight4wd 85 posts  |  Last Activity: 12 hours ago Member since: Mar 11, 2002
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  • straight4wd by straight4wd 12 hours ago Flag

    The below csttements are confusing
    Press release of 20 Sept 2013 as to the Re-hab hospital contained the following
    When the hospitals' sale and operations transfer are completed, FVE expects to realize cash proceeds of between $6.5 million and $7.5 million by retaining its working capital investment in these hospitals. Also, upon completion of this sale and transfer, FVE will be relieved of rent obligations totaling approximately $11.5 million per year, including rents to SNH and rents to third parties.

    In the 4th qtr report

    As of December 31, 2013, we and SNH completed the transfer of operations and sale of the real estate at two rehabilitation hospitals and 13 out-patient clinics affiliated with those rehabilitation hospitals, which were previously disclosed as held for sale and discontinued operations. We previously leased the rehabilitation hospitals from SNH and the out-patient clinics from others. As a result of this transaction, SNH received proceeds of approximately $90.0 million for the sale of the real estate associated with the rehabilitation hospitals, we retained certain net assets of approximately $9.6 million and our annual rent payable to SNH and others decreased by approximately $11.5 million. In 2013, we recorded losses of approximately $2.2 million relating to closing costs and legal fees associated with this transaction and we incurred $2.6 million of non-cash asset impairment charges to reduce the fixed assets we owned which are related to the rehabilitation hospitals

    Sounds like FVE did not get any cash out of this just stuff that they had put into it to run the facility. This was a bad deal from the start jsut a favor for SNH to take over the running of it. Not in the FVE business model just benifited others as usual.
    4wd

  • Reply to

    I am running out of cash...

    by buyacramer 12 hours ago
    straight4wd straight4wd 12 hours ago Flag

    I learned that same lesson. I bought & sold twice in the low 5's and bought back and kept buying nto the report.It took me back about 5 months in trading profits.

    4wd

  • Reply to

    I think FVE is running out of cash....

    by msears99 15 hours ago
    straight4wd straight4wd 12 hours ago Flag

    msears You need to call or write the company and let them know these things. You know the old saying a squeaky wheel gets the greese.
    A lot of what you say are valid questions but you need to address that to investor relations.

    BTW can you spell your name because you sure cannot spell others. here it is as per the insieder transactions section their proper names.

    McKay and Hodland not correct but look below.
    MACKEY BRUCE J JR
    HOAGLAND PAUL V
    MACKEY MACKEY MACKEY
    HOAGLAND HOAGLAND
    I may get to flying on the keyboard and make errors but names are names especially when you throw them up so often.
    4wd

  • straight4wd by straight4wd Sep 17, 2014 12:18 PM Flag

    This was a good buy to the ask side as there wee 37k sitting out there.
    12:01:26 4.06 24500 EDGX

    BTW its Mackey not Makay

    4wd

  • Reply to

    This is TZA and many have lost their way.

    by leftyspade Sep 14, 2014 9:44 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 15, 2014 4:01 PM Flag

    This was a prior post of my Opinion of ETF's.
    ETF's are like leaky tires.

    Only difference is you reverse split them vice airing them up.
    Or actually that is probably the same thing.
    4wd

  • straight4wd by straight4wd Sep 15, 2014 1:12 PM Flag

    Portnoy is a director in Six or more publicly traded companies to include FVE GOV HPT SIR SNH & TA and of course the private company RMR
    He is a powerful person But If he is and or were to pull some highly illegal or questionable tactics he could suffer long term restrictions in his role with Publicly Traded Companies

    I would hope that he is aware of this and acts accordingly in his role as director in any of these companies.

    He has control of a lot of aspects of these REIT's.. In the end he has to comply with SEC regulations.

    PORTNOY BARRY M: Declared Holdings
    Company/Relationship Reported Shares Ownership
    Five Star Quality Care, Inc. Co
    Director
    NYSE:FVE
    (historical quotes, profile, other insiders) 16-May-13 201,622 Direct
    Government Properties Income Tr
    Director
    NYSE:GOV
    (historical quotes, profile, other insiders) 29-Jul-14
    8-Sep-14 490,314
    14,907
    505,221 Direct
    Indirect
    Total
    Hospitality Properites Trust Co
    Director
    NYSE:HPT
    (historical quotes, profile, SEC, other insiders) 10-Jun-14
    8-Sep-14 445,092
    47,833
    492,925 Direct
    Indirect
    Total
    Select Income REIT Common Share
    Director
    NYSE:SIR
    (historical quotes, other insiders) 2-May-14
    8-Sep-14 6,741
    305,801
    312,542 Direct
    Indirect
    Total
    Senior Housing Properties Trust
    Director
    NYSE:SNH
    (historical quotes, profile, SEC, other insiders) 5-Jun-14
    8-Sep-14 262,466
    47,292
    309,758 Direct
    Indirect
    Total
    TravelCenters of America LLC Co
    Director
    NYSE:TA
    (historical quotes, profile, other insiders) 19-Jun-14 78,912 Direct

  • Reply to

    GOLD - Look out below!

    by dickiedribbles Sep 12, 2014 5:35 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 12, 2014 11:01 PM Flag

    Did you guys notice that gold equitys had fairly high volume (most above avg) and were up a tad then lower. I surfed a few boards amd a lot saying next week down..

    #$%$ does the $XJY chart mean anything to you?
    4wd

  • Reply to

    Dickie fess Up!!

    by straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 1:56 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 12, 2014 8:37 PM Flag

    Dickie my source said on 27 March silver up to around 21ish and then down.
    Not being a chart guy but using the info provided I say about 4 weeks more down silver. that is as far as I can see now. (charts I can see what is there but cannot project data)
    Sorry my source appears and disapears he has not been around since April

    also JMPR was said down to 21ish and to 34 most probably in 2015 we saw teh 21.95ish a couple months back

    2016 thu 2018 deflation coming after a continued up then hyper inflation long term
    But what do I know I am a bottom feeder TTEK DSW VOXX DTLK BLOX THOR only two of those left in the portfolio along with 2 or 3 dogs waiting for a lift.
    4wd

  • Reply to

    GOLD - Look out below!

    by dickiedribbles Sep 12, 2014 5:35 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 12, 2014 7:40 PM Flag

    I don't quite understand that post Dickie but on the other hand I had 600 ANV that I let go today at a profit of 2.00 before it slipped back a bit.
    hold AG, EGO and some under water IAG

    4wd

  • Reply to

    Sector sell-off

    by msears99 Sep 12, 2014 3:01 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 12, 2014 4:43 PM Flag

    There ws a sell off of the reits but that started at around 14:00 and was most of that bunch CWH SNH SIR etc some losing near 4.8%
    But the FVE sell off was much earlier around 11:15 and not as drastic as FVE I am refering to BKD CSU VTR etc
    You can bet those financials that we need are available but there is a lack of bolstering the share price and to just let it slide with uncertan results and the lack of along with the distrust of this managment.
    4wd

  • Reply to

    effect on customers?

    by delusional_investor Sep 12, 2014 4:28 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 12, 2014 4:37 PM Flag

    That is a possibility now tht you mention it.
    4wd

  • Reply to

    Dickie fess Up!!

    by straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 1:56 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 3:36 PM Flag

    will watch & see if that comes up in my secret file.
    Thanks
    4wd

  • Reply to

    Dickie fess Up!!

    by straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 1:56 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 3:13 PM Flag

    Thanks Dickie I got a similar number from another source back in Apr sub 14.

    Saying 20K in 2015

    4wd

  • straight4wd by straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 1:56 PM Flag

    I found this post in my secret stash & it is probably the only copy. from back in April

    Hi TJ,

    I was watching a documentary on gold & they mentioned the move down in silver in 2008 from 21.44 to 8.40, so I brought up a 7 year weekly chart of silver. I have never seen a more clear chart!
    Take a look at it & you'll know EXACTLY where silver is going in the next several months. Even the target is a picnic to calculate!

    Dickie Any comments??

    4wd

  • Reply to

    New 52 week low in the AGQ

    by traderjax75 Sep 11, 2014 8:10 AM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 11, 2014 9:58 AM Flag

    ETF's are like leaky tires.

    Only difference is you reverse split them vice ariing them up.
    Or actually that is probably the same thing.
    4wd

  • Reply to

    Fve is set to Pop..on any good news.

    by msears99 Sep 10, 2014 3:17 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 10, 2014 4:24 PM Flag

    As to this ** as RMR is forcing the play by failure to disclose financial's.

    This is the problem as RMR should have nothing to do with FVE financial's They are the noose around FVE's neck. We need to campaign for a change in the BOD to get control of FVE from RMR

    The BOD & their self serving greed needs to be put out.

    FVE houses the cream of the crop in the makeup of the residence catering mostly to the private pay client.

    This is a jewel of an equity but the leeches need to be cast out. I believe we all agree on this and need to act accordingly and actively prusue such an end.

    4wd

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    #$%$ in their own Carhartts:

    by tommccauley31 Sep 9, 2014 12:44 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 9, 2014 8:50 PM Flag

    Those shares are peanuts compared to their take from the control and $$ going thier way through Their companies i.e. RMR. Margins those are the margins that I would love to see. Those of RMR.

    4wd

  • Reply to

    I see another postponment comming.....

    by msears99 Sep 8, 2014 2:45 PM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 8, 2014 2:59 PM Flag

    You see nothing that is not there. Plenty of time to go either way on that report as far as the last delay. What I am wondering is when the SEC will give them wqrning and or limits. Also the NYEX for that matter.

    What is actually going on is more of the same nothing but manipulation of the share price down.

    4wd

  • Reply to

    ABSURD

    by straight4wd Sep 4, 2014 9:42 AM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 5, 2014 1:26 PM Flag

    I agree with some of what you say but as for making it unattractive for take over that would be seen through by a savy suitor. Fve's board of directors have basicly done that thru other means.

    As far as something being up that is most likely so. I believe the culprit is known and ready to make a move to cement a hold that has been years in the making. I also believe that some of the barrier around this equity are illegal and braakable. After all this is not China nor a China equity.

    4wd

  • Reply to

    Manipulation?

    by tommccauley31 Sep 5, 2014 9:48 AM
    straight4wd straight4wd Sep 5, 2014 1:17 PM Flag

    In the forefront of manipulation is the total lack of financial reporting.

    Secondary is the ask bid This equity is showing a lot of churn over time and this would suggest a push down of the equity price.

    looking at the Major holder ownership there is not a lot of overall change as of mid year.

    Giving 20 to 21 trading days a month at an average day volume of say 140,000 and lets crank in late reporting at least 6 months behind and a bit of compounding due to multiple reports due I would say the 140,000 is conservative though I could figure it out day by day.

    that would be a good 16 to 17 mil shares traded in those 6 months of pressure due to lack of reporting. With churn figured in for the push I'd say actual sellers are few.

    In that sense the manipulation would be due to the core factor of financial reporting.and that being somewhat an irregularity caused by managment..

    Any further comment on that would go to another recent post.
    4wd

FVE
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