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stvbba 144 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 15, 2014 6:16 PM Member since: Feb 22, 2002
  • stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 6:16 PM Flag

    In the 2009 budget Obama is responsible for about $924 billion of that because Bush left office in January of that year. The rest of your estimates are totally inaccurate.
    Bush deficits 2005 - 2009
    FY 2009 $1,413 bln
    FY 2008: $458 bln
    FY 2007: $161 bln
    FY 2006: $248 bln
    FY 2005: $318 bln
    How you came up with those numbers is beyond me. Do some research and get back with me.
    Your pants are on fire.

  • Reply to

    Tending your own house

    by stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:55 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 6:03 PM Flag

    Ben as far as disrespect for others try looking at your own blue state liberals here who unfairly consistently degrade and disrespect other people and states like Texas on a regular basis. And per their own admission Texas gives more to the government than it receives so can't even be considered a taker like some. I see you condone and accept the obvious lies and misrepresentations by them by your own silence. So perhaps you are being just a bit hypocritical in your statement. There are a few here who will occasionally give a fair representation of things but you don't seem to be one of them. I invite you to do so and gain some credibility.
    BTW I looked up what one of your fellow blue state friends said about who receives more back then they paid in and a goodly number of blue states are in the same boat. As I have mentioned in the past and you may have not seen it or ignored it I have said overall who gets what between the states looks pretty evenly distributed between Red and Blue states. So it's a fallacy to think blue states have all the burden. They don't. If you and them did the research or didn't obfuscate the facts you will see it for yourself. Neither side has all that much to brag about in this area. The reality is the money is needed where it is needed no matter blue or red why would any reasonable decent person want to degrade that and the needs of the poor and needy in our country? We give enough away to other countries and illegals now. Liberals claim they want to help the poor and needed then quit complaining about it or using it as an ax to grind. Oh, here are the list of blue states that receive more than they receive. Taken from the same source.
    New Mexico $2.03
    Virginia $1.51
    Hawaii $1.44
    Maine $1.41
    Maryland $1.30
    Iowa $1.10
    Vermont $1.08
    North Carolina $1.08
    Pennsylvania $1.07
    Indiana $1.05
    Ohio $1.05

  • stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 4:41 PM Flag

    no unfortunately it has disappeared like the $6.75 trillion that President Obama has done away with since taking office.
    Remember that the 4 largest deficits in our history were on Obama's watch. He makes all previous presidents look like pikers by comparison with their spending. To his partial credit he has slowed it down to under a trillion the last few years. How nice but we are still bleeding money.

  • Reply to

    Tending your own house

    by stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:55 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 2:13 PM Flag

    Silence. A gotcha moment for the silly liberals here. For the thoughtful ones a moment to reflect? You can't have it both ways.

  • stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 2:09 PM Flag

    Sounds like a cop out statement to me. We aren't talking about them we are talking about you. Either you are for redistribution or you aren't? Which is it? Can't have it both ways or pick and chose how you want it to be.

    Somehow you I bet you won't answer. You really can't answer the question truthfully can you. Very typical of many liberals when caught making silly unsupported statements or, caught in a lie, or in a "caught you" mistake like you just made. Silly goofball liberal.

    And while you are thinking up more excuses remember that resident Obama before leaving office will more than double all the debt ever built up by every previous president before him. Quit a feat for someone who claimed he would do just the opposite wouldn't you say.

  • Reply to

    Leftist Municipalities' Common Problems

    by excpqhper Aug 14, 2014 4:50 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 1:27 PM Flag

    you are projecting again.

  • Reply to

    Tending your own house

    by stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:55 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 1:23 PM Flag

    Wait a minute here. If the Red states that get more back then they pay in are the poorer states isn't that OK with you? I mean you do agree with Obama's wealth redistribution ideas don't you. This is just wealth redistribution to make it more fair from those greedy rich blue states stealing from the poorer states to make things more fair. So I ask you what's your complaint?

  • I find it very amusing that liberals spend so much time trying to run down Republicans and conservatives when your own house is in such a mess and full of very bad anti-American people. Such as your much vaunted George Soros. Here is his glorious resume for your viewing pleasure.
    Soros is an eccentric billionaire who has been funding anti-American groups and causes for over a decade. He was convicted of insider trading in France in 2005.
    He is the leading force behind the effort to legalize ALL drugs.
    He is the founder of the Open Society organization.
    He hides a great deal of his wealth in offshore banks considered havens for money laundering.
    He has given more than $7 million to the Tides Foundation. Tides founder 60s radical and alleged communist today Drummond Pike served as the treasurer for Soros’s Democracy Alliance, a major funder of formerly ACORN, now called COI -Community Organizations International.

    I can name many more. These are the movements liberals are so fond and proud of and get funded by? And you worry about the Republicans and Conservatives? Please tend to your house first.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    The Shared Agendas of George Soros and Barack Obama

    by stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:06 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:51 PM Flag

    Thank you. I tried posting another one on Soros but I believe it got blocked. At least I have not seen it after multiple tries. Not surprising really. Does he own Yahoo?

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    The Shared Agendas of George Soros and Barack Obama

    by stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:06 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 12:27 PM Flag

    You are projecting.

  • In December of 2006, Soros, who had previously hosted a fundraiser for Obama during the latter's 2004 Senate campaign, met with Obama in Soros's New York office. Just a few weeks later¯on January 16, 2007 Obama announced that he would form a presidential exploratory committee and was contemplating a run for the White House. Within hours, Soros sent the senator a contribution of $2,100.
    Obama's anti-capitalist background and views are well documented: His father was a communist; his mother was a communist sympathizer. In his youth he was mentored by the communist Frank Marshall Davis; he sought out Marxist friends and professors at Occidental College; he attended Socialist Scholars Conferences in New York; he was trained in the community-organizing methods of Saul Alinsky, a communist fellow traveler; he developed close ties to the pro-socialist community organization ACORN; he developed close personal and political ties to the infamous Marxists (and former domestic terrorists) Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. He was hand-picked for his first political office by Alice Palmer, a pro-Soviet figure in Illinois. In the 1990s he became a member of the New Party, a socialist political coalition. He spent twenty years attending the church of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who preaches the Marxist doctrines of liberation theology.

    George Soros, too, harbors many negative views about capitalism and free markets. “The entire edifice of global financial markets has been erected on the false premise that markets can be left to their own devices,” says Soros. “We must find a new paradigm and rebuild from the ground up.” According to Soros, the capitalist “belief that everybody pursuing his self-interest will maximize the common interest … is a false idea.” Calling the global capitalist system “deeply flawed. In October 2009, Soros told a Central European University audience that communist redistributionism “was a very attractive idea” .

  • stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 11:40 AM Flag

    Interesting you say that with the likes of communist George Soros supporting all liberal causes. I suppose I will have to educate you again, if Yahoo lets me. I believe they like to keep people like you ignorant of the truth by blocking posts they don't agree with. We shall see today

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    Leftists lower the bar

    by springer_1994 Aug 15, 2014 8:02 AM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 15, 2014 11:03 AM Flag

    Conceal and carry or open carry will fix that. A no no I am sure in liberal states but accepted and well received in conservative states. Perhaps that is why we have few robberies and attacks where I live.

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    Fun fact of the day.....

    by springer_1994 Aug 14, 2014 3:09 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 4:58 PM Flag

    How can Obama be taken seriously by the international community when he appears to have more interest in the 19th hole then his job as President.

  • stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 4:52 PM Flag

    Now that is an interesting turn of events. Perhaps the environmentalist in California have lost their luster and some of their power there. One rejection could be considered a fluke but 2, something is up.

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    Three cheers for the EPA

    by w.heinlein Aug 13, 2014 7:12 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 2:00 PM Flag

    Agreed. It definitely made the chances of lead poisoning in us and our children that much less.

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    Three cheers for the EPA

    by w.heinlein Aug 13, 2014 7:12 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 1:58 PM Flag

    Amen to that. God and his plan for men and women is not often easily visible. Perhaps thankfully for young men with egos to protect. Once wisdom sets and we see how well it works we don't mind so much.

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    Three cheers for the EPA

    by w.heinlein Aug 13, 2014 7:12 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 1:51 PM Flag

    You are parsing words uncle. You know very well I did not necessarily mean that. Common sense should have you thinking that I doubt the validity of the results, not that lead removal from our environment is not a good thing. It is very tiring to have to educate things I post to unsophisticated and uninformed people like you. Some of you liberals are lacking in even basic understanding of words and semantics.

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    Re: SEC Charges Kansas with Fraud

    by wasilla_methclown Aug 14, 2014 1:00 PM
    stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 1:28 PM Flag

    Oh please, both parties are guilty of bad deeds. For instance in May of this year a Democratic mayor was arrested for an $8 Million swindle AND may have committed voter fraud. Lucie Tondreau, mayor of North Miami, Fl, who was elected in June of last year, has been indicted as part of a scheme to bilk banks out of $8 million dollars. She and her accomplices recruited straw buyers to pretend to be buyers of some 20 properties. She has also been implicated in voter fraud, when authorities found at least 60 absentee ballots requests had come from the same internet address. That address was traced to Tondreau, and her campaign manager was caught with a stack of absentee ballots in his car.

    You are making a point but not the one you were hoping for. Please, "get a clue".

  • stvbba stvbba Aug 14, 2014 11:28 AM Flag

    If it is possible to reinvent a country (or ones self for that matter) this country is probably the only place that could succeed at it.

    As I have stated some regulations are necessary and desirable it's the silly unnecessary ones that some idealistic bureaucrat dreams up to fit an agenda that I object to.

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