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sumrtym7 9 posts  |  Last Activity: May 10, 2016 12:24 PM Member since: Jan 30, 2008
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  • To the moon Alice!! A purchase on the flip side of either UPL or EXXI would be a nice catalyst for instance.
    For now, be happy that those shares short will pay the divi for the company....and for that, we ty.
    Any opinions?

  • Reply to

    New estimate

    by sumrtym7 Apr 20, 2016 10:12 AM
    sumrtym7 sumrtym7 May 3, 2016 8:58 AM Flag

    Fair enough now that the .39 is gone as if it never existed and the .89 is now .64 and going forward, will that be adjusted again , can they be trusted by the 1 or 2 analysts covering Argan? The latest qt was off by "only" 30 % and the date was never released in advance which I have never seen before. Again, I love what these guys are doing and I go back a ways in their history but can the numbers be trusted, will the same reasons they missed big this past qt be the same reason for missing forward qts, lower margins? Net revenues the highest in a year, net income the lowest in a year, seems to be a fair question, no? And it's $3.23 from $3.35, from $3.03, to be accurate. If they continue to be off by 30% its about $2.60-$2.70 ish, which is still a fair pe at current share price by my own standards. Thanks for the reply.

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    Any insights on this company

    by in4life75 Apr 28, 2016 9:55 AM
    sumrtym7 sumrtym7 May 2, 2016 3:30 PM Flag

    You seem a bit confused. The stock IS down still since the split even after the significant recovery, go to the chart to see just how much more it has been down with oils collapse and the subsequent rebound. The dividend IS in line with what it was pre reverse split, that is, 5 times the original amount of 15 cents. It s model is rather new in that it is an alternative asset REIT and the jury is still out re: the base business model, oil pricing aside. I like the model and believe it will work BUT nothing will work if oil stays lower for longer, not this, not MLPs...nothing. I have given a lot of thought to bail now with oil up to the 45 range, not just here but other oil related investments as well, for now, on hold and keeping fingers crossed.
    Re; CORR....the HUGE short still hangs over the stock, the BKs of EXXI and now today UPL as well are certainly a BIG concern regardless of how the leases are written or what CORR management "thinks" is likely to happen, they have no choice but to remain positive. Dont invest he house here, for now its strictly risk tolerant monies and see if it gets through this, IF you are so inclined. IMHO.
    Very strange that this is up today with UPL filing and oil down slightly, a positive sign? Any thoughts?

  • sumrtym7 by sumrtym7 Apr 20, 2016 10:12 AM Flag

    For the current quarter...39 cents down from .89 YIKES !!! Current year est. down as well but I dont think they are done with that as it doesnt add up.
    Love the business but it doesnt matter how much backlog you gain if youre not hitting the same margins apparently, my take anyways. Comments anyone? GLTA

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    what the ?????

    by exercisealot4fun Apr 14, 2016 11:14 AM
    sumrtym7 sumrtym7 Apr 14, 2016 3:06 PM Flag

    Gee I don't know, maybe it has something to do with all the headlines immediately in view on the finance page. Go play your scam somewhere else. To the rest....GL

  • Time has come to test the theory proposed by CORR management. GLTA

  • sumrtym7 sumrtym7 Mar 26, 2016 11:40 AM Flag

    I much you'd be ahead now. Jus sayin' LOL

  • sumrtym7 sumrtym7 Mar 26, 2016 11:37 AM Flag

    I think if you took a glance at it, there may be a couple, jusssssttttttt a couple of other investments people made, stupidly, in 2007 that fared the same or worse, like damn near every investment but to short the market, sit on dry powder and wait for the dust to settle. Just look at the dip early last month, great entry point for anyone looking for income. Sorry but a misguided comment if ever there was one. Even had you errantly entered at 50 in '07, go look at the divi chain since then and tell me how much you are behind the math not the meth. GLTA

  • sumrtym7 by sumrtym7 Mar 17, 2016 10:47 AM Flag

    CRUSHED IT !!!!!

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