[Says the guy who appears to be totally confused every time he tries to talk intelligently about the IoT and what an average IoT appliance will look like or do. ]
lol. Deflecting again eh?
I wouldn't say this a completely accurate characterization but there's certainly truth to the claim that iOS' heritage comes from smartphones and that heritage shows. Basically devices designed for consumer user are generally locked-down appliances where the device owner is given limited control of the device. The software vendor keeps superuser status for themselves and grants the device owner limited privileges. This is definitely true of Android and I believe its true of iOS as well.
In contrast, with a professional OS the user is given full administrative control of the software with superuser status and can install any software and grant any privileges they like
You are confusing OS, UI and features. As an example, with Android, you are running the same Linux kernel as on super computers. The same kernel is used with Windows 10 across phones and PC's, and it's the same with iOS and OSX. What is different is the UI layer on top, and the various API layers that are/aren't exposed, and as you point out the security layer. As another example, you could jail break a Windows RT device and run normal full GUI 'legacy' applications, although your choice in applications was very, very limited:)
If you are working in any sizeable organization, you wont have full administrative control of the PC or of the software running on it - but we're getting off the point.
If you want the Windows PC software ecosystem, you don't buy an ipad (pro or otherwise).
The 64-bit ARM A9 RISC processor is a great engine for an operating system like iOS 9, which functions on – well – a reduced instruction set. In other words, both processor and OS were designed for low powered computing devices like smartphones – not high powered devices like personal computers.
Bless, the author doesn't know the difference between an OS and UI, and as for the RISC comments...
[There is nothing compelling about the Pencil as a mass marketing draw. Um, exactly why would I want one? I have no idea and neither does anyone else. Graphics experts aren't going to be using tablets to do serious work. The idea is silly. ]
I had a conversation with a "Graphics expert" yesterday, you know what he said? He likes the idea of being able to draw on the screen rather than drawing on a separate surface and looking up at his desktop screen. However, he wants to play before he makes any judgement. He also wants to know the differences between the ipad version of photoshop and his 'real' version. He would still expect to use the ipad and PC together, so it wouldn't be a PC replacement.
As for mass market, currently, nothing. You need to get your head around the fact that this is a fine grain pointing device (ie, it's like a mouse, but not a mouse) and it will take time to see if there market acceptance (ie, software firms supporting it). Most people on the planet know how to use a pen and IF Apple has nailed the UI, form factor and IF software supports it...
Lots of IF's, but given Apples history of redefining UI's, you'de be a fool to dismiss the concept out of hand.
[The crowd laughed when the "Pencil" was announced and it has been roundly mocked since. But no (tech) product is more deserving of being mocked than one referred to as the "maxipad". The iPad Pro is doomed. ]
Oh, I think the maxipad is useless, but I can certainly see what Apple are trying to do with the Pencil. I can also see what the implications are if it actually works (from a UI context). If you think the crowd laughed, then you are living in a cave.
But the pencil doesn't come with the iPad Pro - you have to buy that separately. If the pencil is an important component to the iPad Pro market/concept, one would think it would come with pencil (on a cord attached to the screen!).
There may be a niche market for the iPad Pro (not sure what/how), but for the broad consumer market, I see few advantages over a 2 in 1. (For business, I see no real market for the iPad Pro. IBM will have fun trying to partner/market that!).
The Pro has no advantages over Windows 2 in 1. If you want Windows you buy a 2 in 1, a normal laptop, or a Macbook and run windows under a VM. If you want a large iPad...
The Pencil is an expensive accessory but it's the one thing that makes the maxipad 'different', and it's the ONLY thing that will stop the maxipad becoming a niche product. For that to happen you are looking at broad adoption of the 'Pencil' concept, with ultimate roll out to other iPad sizes, and perhaps to even a larger iPad 'Desk' in time. It all depends, if Apple has nailed the UI, if it's compelling enough etc. Also look to see what the Android ecosystem does.
PRO stands for Professional -
who would buy a tablet instead of a 2 in 1
Stupid Cook made fun of 2 in 1
too bad Apple did not invent the 2 in 1 convertible
Jobs probably would have come up with a concept of a 2 in 1
I fully agree with WW - the Ipad is done
as B.B. King says ... the thrill is gone
Just like WW, you don't get it. The maxipad isn't a 2 in 1...
You've got Windows 2 in 1 devices, which basically run Windows applications as there is so little software to run them in a pure tablet mode. In other words, they are real PC's (which isn't a bad thing!). Then you have this maxipad, which ONLY runs touch/pen based software. No legacy UI - it can't be a 2 in 1!
I've no idea if this Pencil concept is going to work but if it does there will be interesting times ahead.
[Um, so Apple wants us to believe that really high end (business) graphics people are going to abandon their tricked out workstations and start using a tablet. Seriously?]
“The iPad is the clearest expression of our vision of the future of personal computing.” — Tim Cook
"It's going to enable new classes of applications for iPad." - Phil Schiller
"Something not even Photoshop on the desktop can do." - Eric Snowden (Adobe)
The above is copied from ibc from the Intel board over on investorshub.
No, you can't replace your PC/workstation...yet.
[If you think the iPad Pro is going to be just like the orginal iPad then you have totally lost your mind. And what does Adobe have to do with it? Why would they turn anything into a big hit by being on board?]
Why do you think Adobe has spent all that effort in getting photoshop working with the pro? The keyboard!?! It's all about Apple Pencil!
[ARM doesn't make chips, dufus. And skip the quantity numbers and tell us how much the revenue increase was.]
You are right ARM doesn't make chips, but they earn royalty from them. They use the word 'chip' when reporting those numbers. In terms of revenue increases, 22%.
[It means no such thing. You are starting to remind me of the Fantasy Island boys. It takes more than wishful thinking. ]
Explain why Apple would drop it's own SoC's along with the toolchain that goes with it?
[What a bunch of malarkey. There isn't going to be any Apple/ARMH mobile or desktop business paradigm/ecosystem. This is an effort to pump life back into the dying iPad line. A lot of arm-waving and not much to get excited about. Meh.]
If you say so. Just like the iphone and ipad changed things eh? Why is Adobe on-board?
Look, I may not like the maxipad (I really don't see the point) BUT I can see what Apple are trying to do. Just like with Apple TV.
Those already worshiping everything Apple will probably like it but it's a difficult proposition to see iPadPro convincing Windows users to make the switch for several reasons.
At least with Surface, the owner can connect their device to an external monitor and use it like a real desktop with all their legacy applications.
I think you aren't seeing the bigger picture here.
Your last sentence says it all, "legacy applications". If windows GUI applications are really "legacy", then what is the future paradigm for software "apps" on the client? Isn't this is what the pro is really about, creating a new paradigm, running with new versions of photoshop and autocad along with a "pen" for fine grain input?
I'm not convinced that windows GUI applications are really "legacy", and I'm fighting that idea internally in the organization I work for (ie, not shifting more resources to a mobile first strategy). If the maxipad works, and the concept broadens out (for example, having larger versions that primarily stay on the desktop), then the WIMP UI could really be legacy. Who knows what will happen then...
The iPad Pro already looks like a poor imitation of the Microsoft Surface.
That may be the case. We now know that the maxipad is running Apple's A CPU's and not Intel's, making it even clearer that Apple has no intention of moving to Intel for iOS.
ARM shipped 3.4 billion chips in Q2 (up 26% year-on-year),
so how many devices do Intel server connect....?
Many do, and many don't. Your point?
ARM shipped 3.4 billion chips in Q2 (up 26% year-on-year), of which 40% are Mobile and connectivity, the rest being being embedded (40%) and the remainder being enterprise (12%) and home (5%).
[Drivers as in plural??? Nope, ARM has one and only one growth driver. The IoT. And it's evolving too slow to keep them in favor as a high PE stock. ]
The facts and numbers say otherwise:)
[True but it won't make up for Apple's problems in China. Or Samsung's seven quarters of decline.]
Luckly, ARM has all those other growth drivers eh?
[See what I mean, Monk?]
lol. "may not be"... Feel free to point out the drastic drop in Apple phone sales next quarter, I will happily admit I was wrong again.
Simply put, it looks like this will be the most powerful consumer router ever when it launches later this year.
It's also ARM powered.