With our expanded use of smartphones comes increased pressure on servers to help drive these devices: The activity we see everyday on our phones is a mere pinhole view into all that’s happening behind the scenes, in the massive cloud infrastructure powering all those apps, photo-shares, messages, notifications, tweets, emails, and more. Add in the billions of devices coming online through the Internet of Things—which scales through number of new endpoints, not just number of users—and you begin to see why the old model of datacenters built around PCs is outdated. We need more power. And our old models for datacenters are simply not enough.
[AE would tell you not to worry about security on the iPhone because it has a really nice processor. ]
What has AE got to do with this thread? What has Apples CPU got to do with this thread? The NFC is handled by a separate chip.
Wasn't that flummoxed character the guy who couldn't hold a rational discussion with AE over on ihub? Wasn't he warned about his irrational emotional outbursts, so much so that his credibility was shot to pieces in the end? You remember, he claimed he sold 50K shares of Intel...prior to this run up...
Actually, wasn't flummoxed you?:)
[My interest was in finding something on what was shipping. Why don't you demonstrate you mastery of Google and pull something up for us? You keep using the "look over there" strategy to divert attention from what is not shipping. ]
I guess I wasn't clear enough, rather than saying "search for Samsung Galaxy S5 LTE-A", I should have said, "go to google's home page, then type in
Samsung Galaxy S5 LTE-A
Then click search. Alternatively you can find a review on the device on anandtech "
[In other words you have absolutely nothing on the shipping of this or any other 20nm product. Just as I thought. So much for your advanced Google skills.]
LOL. What on earth do you want from me? I've given you the exact model to search for on the 20nm baseband phone, "Samsung Galaxy S5 LTE-A" and you also have "Samsung Galaxy Alpha" that contains an Intel baseband and a 20nm App processor. You can buy the former now, and you can buy the Alpha in a couple of weeks.
[You attempt to cherry-pick the details in order to lead the readers to erroneous conclusions. The dynamics of recent developments are clear regardless of whether you understand them or will admit to it.]
Nope, wrong again. The $20 figure I used is the cost (to Apple) of the A7. The $281 is the tray (1000) list price for Core-M. I know that some high end ARM SoC's go for north of $20 (K1, $25 and the latest QCOM parts), but you've also got a raft of high end and mid range parts closer to $10.
Wow, we continue to see article after article these days on how ARM has closed the technology gap on Intel. In spite of the fact that ARM hasn't shipped a single FinFET processor EVER. Nor have we even seen any 20nm products shipping.
Wrong on both points.
You must be totally desperate to post this kind of rubbish.
Enlighten us Wiseone, when was the last time you did any work related to a datacenter?
Technically, this isn't true. You can jailbreak a windows RT tablet and have 'full' windows. Clearly there aren't many native apps and any emulation of x86 would be really bad...:)
Microsoft has a clear choice. Get in bed with Intel, and kill ARM asap, or support two ISA's.
"Two billion transistors strong. A8 uses an advanced 20-nanometer process. It’s a remarkably small and efficient chip on which two billion transistors deliver incredible performance with up to 50 percent more energy efficiency than the A7 chip."
Ok, I see what you are saying, but it's going to take a long time before white box phones come out that will "embarrass Apple" (the suggestion being that they will be x86 powered phones). Why? iOS is a native, closed garden and extremely optimized for it's own processors. Then look over to Android, and it's a mess in comparison.
[ I don't think it will be X86. I think it will be some form or RISC that both Intel and Apple hold joint licenses to. I don't think it will be ARM based however.]
Perhaps I don't understand what you wrote above. Are you suggesting that Apple and Intel come up with a new ISA that breaks compatibility with both x86 and ARM? If so, what's the point in that?
FYI, Apple (along with others) worked with ARM to come up with the new ARMv8 ISA.
[When you have something relevant to say, then post it up. But this was a garbage article and you know it.]
I answered the guys questions/comments. Lets see if you can do me the same courtesy, why was the article garbage?
From your comments, you don't understand the ARMy's advantages in this sector (not that I am suggesting they will win).
Does it make sense for the base band to be the first 20nm component?
What can be gleaned from the first 20nm part being a base band component rather than any other part?
QCOM's 20nm app processors launch was messed up with Apples A7 so that could explain a lot.
It did, and I still don't understand. What does a 'guess a password' attack on icloud have anything to do with Apple Pay, especially considering some of the NFC technology being rolled out isn't even "protected" by a pin?