For a more complete picture do you have any GB2 comparisons as well ? After all it's only the Apple ARM that are not optimized in GB2.
Erm, no, it's not just Apple. All ARM versions were compiled with -Os (which spits out thumb code) and even with Android, an 'old' version of GCC was used. With GB3, the same version of the compiler was used for both x86 and ARM and for the most part equivalent switches.
mediatek's octa nonsense, ARM MT6592, 1.66 GHz 1 processor, 8 cores V Z2580, 2.00 GHz
The Z2580 spanks the MT6592 on the memory tests, but the single thread performance (integer and float) of the A7 isn't too shabby. At 2Ghz, you'de expect the A7 to win almost all the subtests.
'they'll absolutely smack anything with a quad ARM Cortex A7.'
'Certainly the ones with clock speeds nearer 1 GHz, the ones with clock speeds closer to 2 GHz will be a tougher match though.'
They certainly will be much harder to beat:) Just depends on the memory sub systems.
[I haven't noted any such fluctuations with TSMC. Of course, ARM gets the heck manipulated out of it so there are a lot of fluctuations. But this is fun - see if you can find another dozen reasons to prop your failing argument up.]
What failing argument? I am trying to explain to you how the market works in relation to ADR's.
[None of those would produce a 4 percent difference. ]
When you are dealing with an ADR/S there is lots of action in the pre/post market as the prices attempt to equalize and can produce large movements in price. In ARMH's case the open in the US is driven by the price in London
[Yes, but everyone is operating off the same information. One wouldn't expect a large disconnect.]
True, but there are other factors involved such as exchange rates and other local factors.
TSMC was up big before opening but then opened flat. Dunno wuz up with that. I might think some sort of manipulation but I'm told that never happens on Wall Street.
Or it could be the fact that the home exchanges for TSMC and ARMH aren't in the US...
I was rather surprised that Calxeda vaporized.
Yeah, so was I. The interesting thing with (or was) with Calxeda was the fabric.
"can't do a socket for socket comparison"
Sure you will. Just run Geekbench on them.
What I meant was that the ARMy will be focusing on IO bounded workloads, web serving and the like so raw CPU benchmarks would be meaningless.
I believe they will fail if they go for Intel's core server market. If they are relegated to networking niches, then look no further to CAVM, AMCC, and NetLogic (now owned by BRCM) to get a sense for how much money they can make...;-)
Some of them are going after Intel's core market, it's just that their products will look differently (ie, you can't do a socket for socket comparison).
[And once again I just asked you if this technology would solve all IoT needs and you said no and now you come back to microcontrollers again. Okay, I'm done with this conversation. You are just being argumentative without really knowing anything about the IoT. I knew this.]
Are you truly this stupid or are you trying to get a rise? The technology in smart meters solves the problem for smart meters (which is an IoT problem). The IoT problem, isn't one problem that you solve in one way.
Microcontrollers are just little computers, and in a smart meter they (along with the sensors) measure your use of gas, water, electricity or what ever and send the signal back to base (using a variety of approaches).
[You're saying the Intel Atom has an ARM core?]
NO! The wifi IP block has the ARM core. The ARM core is deeply embedded.
[Okay, so everything you know about the IoT is from what you read on Wikipedia in the last half-hour. Pretty much what I thought. At least now you know it's not just "microcontrollers". I hope. ]
No wallis, I was trying to provide you with information (ie, facts), now, if you read that link, or do your own search, you'll find that in everyone of those smart meters, you'll find at least one micro controller...
[Yeah, An embedded processor is a microprocessor that is used in an embedded system. Again, did you have a point? Intel matched a digital WiFi radio and a dual-core Atom CPU onto the same piece of silicon. ]
Yes, as you put it:
"An embedded processor is a microprocessor that is used in an embedded system"
Which in this case, was an ARM core. That was my point. Nothing more, nothing less.
[ Intel matched a digital WiFi radio and a dual-core Atom CPU onto the same piece of silicon.]
[And this same technology can be used everywhere in all applications, right? ]
No. Every application will have different technological, legal and regulatory requirements. The smart meter isn't a single approach, many different approaches are used to solve the IoT problem.
[Is there a point to this other than you trying to save face?]
lol - no. I'm just trying to explain what an embedded processor is...
[So, what frequency do they use, what is the power requirement, what do they cost, how many units to a base station, what chips do they use, what distance will they work over, what is the bandwidth and what problems do the answers convey? ]
It depends on what country you are in...
[You really think smart meters solve any of the basic IoT problems?]
YES! They measure, and send the information back to base - the whole point of IoT...
[PS. The CPU in the wifi chip is an Atom. It's pretty clear you have no idea what I'm talking about.]
Correct, because you don't understand. I repeat, the CPU core in that WiFi chip is an ARM core. You see, you don't understand the embedded world...