[This is exactly what I mean about you making things up. I haven't posted on iHub in just about forever.]
"wallisweaver, you really need to stop trolling me. I am simply asking if they've used fairly recent models; the improvement in 2013 phones over 2012 ones is pretty staggering."
"Now, wallisweaver, I am done with you. I am putting you on my ignore list, so please don't bother responding to anything else. You, unfortunately, have made it clear that you wish to attack me."
Both of the above where from Ashraf, there is plenty more as well.
[This is unmitigated BS and you know it. I've documented the reasons for my opinions and backed them up extensively. The idea that I've followed Ash or anyone around the net is totally and completely false. The people I've done battle with have all been here. If you have anything to the contrary please post it up. You can't because there isn't anything. If you have honest criticism post it up. But try to avoid the sheer making up of things that don't exist. It makes you sound just like Twink, who is as dishonest as the day is long. ]
Wallis, I regularly read the investorshub intc forum. However, as I don't have an account, I can't search for your posts to show the 'battle' you had over there. I am sure you can though...
Actually they are adding 28nm capacity which is going to last very long - but won't cut it for for ultra low power.
TSMC always "talks big" opposite to Intel - Intel was very open when reporting yield problems.
compared to Intel i find TSMC, Samsung, GF credibility very low - Nenni reflects perfectly TSMC's "PR"
Yeah, 28nm will last a long time, as will other older node such as 65%. As for yields, what numbers would you like to see? Remember the conversations with the 'yield' issues with TSMC at 28nm? One design can have a different yield rate than another and as TSMC has lots of different designs to fab...
As for low power, I assume you are talking about mobility? Given that 20% of TSMC's revenues are on 20nm (Apple and QCOM's ramp) and given what we know for the designs of TSMC 16nm, I think we can safely say that TSMC will do lots of wafers at 16nm.
[You sound like Putin - there aren't any Russian troops in Ukraine, right? There never would have been any ARM posts here except for me, right? LOL, pretty funny but with no factual basis. Have you already forgotten getanid61's endless smack talk? How about Nenni showing up and corrupting Ash and turning him into chopped liver. No, my posts originated from the flood of ARM joy boys showing up here and acting like they owned the place. While ARM's decline and Intel's rise has certainly lessened the ARM enthusiasm for engaging in serious discussion there are still those who yearn for the good ole days and act as if they never ended.]
You have never been interested in any serious discussion, you shout down any view that you disagree with (while providing no or little evidence to back your argument). You then end up abusing people. Look how you responded to Ashfraf viewpoint, you followed him round the net like an infatuated groupie.
Like I said, check out your own posting history, the evidence is right there.
I suggest you look at your own posting history. I think you'll find that most of the posts about ARM on this board has been started by you.
Make what you will of the TSMC numbers.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) reported sales for January 2015 that were the highest of any single month in its history, amid rising demand for silicon for graphics and mobile computing.
During TSMC's fourth quarter earnings call, CFO Lora Ho attributed much of its fourth quarter gains to strong growth in demand for chips based on its 20-nanometer process. The tech accounted for 21 per cent of TSMC's revenues in the fourth quarter, even though the chipmaker only began volume shipments of 20nm silicon in Q2.
On Tuesday, JP Morgan analysts led by Gokul Hariharan said the continued growth in TSMC's 20nm business was likely due to stronger-than-expected wafer shipments to Apple – even though some of Cupertino's newest chips are reportedly being fabbed by Samsung using its 14nm process.
"With iPhone 6/6S wafer demand momentum expected to taper off post January, we believe this implies that further Apple products could be using 20nm process (larger iPad, 4-inch iPhone refresh)," the analysts said.
No wonder they have developed a new core A72 as A57 is too power hungry so its sustained performance is barely better than A15.
This is Samsung's first A57 implementation, and just like A15, A9 and other designs before it, they will get better:) The other thing to remember with these tests is that they are still running the v7 ISA and there should be a nice uplift in both raw performance and performance/watt with v8.
It will be interesting to see how QCOM's 810 performs along with Samsungs next gen A57, which is due with the S6.
Big little does look a mess.
The interesting thing about the A72 is that it's offered as a POP design at 16nm, while the A57 was only offered at 28nm. This partly explains why HiSilicon, MediaTek, and Rockchip are using the A72 for 16nm on their mobile roadmaps. Even so, with Samsung and QCOM using the A57, we should still see hundreds of millions of A57 devices this year.
p.s. I only mentioned snow earlier because that is what the AGW alarmists boldly claimed would completely disappear like a historical curiosity.
This isn't correct. Even in the worst case scenarios there will be parts of the world that will get much colder (and potentially see more snow). This is due to localized weather which is greatly influenced by air/sea currents which could/would change. The classic example is the gulf stream and it's effect on the climate in North West Europe.
Some of you people need to grow up, put away your ideology for a minute and look at some facts
It's interesting when you look at the comments in that article. See how the debate twists and turns with many of the "deniers" being exposed as crackpots, conspiracy theorists and religious zealots.
One guys was quite rational and seemed to have good arguments but when he was challenged with why would NASA lie (there were talking about some of NASA's data), his response was NASA always lie, look at the moon landings - they were faked. Another guy also seemed rational and he posted an impressive list of scientists that challenge the consensus view. I looked at the first 3 Nobel winners, 2 of which had been dead for 10 years, the 3rd is 88... Then the religious guys, with their "young earth" fantasies and their attack on science in general. Finally you have the politics of the left and right wading in with their nonsense on both sides which just adds to the noise level...
The fact remains that we have a scientific consensus. While you have presented an argument on how this can happen when still wrong (pressure for funding). You still have all the worlds most respected scientific organizations backing this view, regardless of their funding methodology.
Today, 90+% of public sector scientists who live on government salaries and grants and have to "public or perish" are basically in a similar club. The left has decided that they can control people through climate change regulation. Any deviation from this gospel will get you sentenced to "liberal hell".
Are you honestly suggesting that climate change is a "liberal plot" of some description?
[Avoiding any conversation? I tried to talk with you about the IoT but you didn't know enough to discuss it. Your only comment was you might know something. I post about ARM because it's fun to poke you ARM nimrods with a stick. I don't post more about ARM than the primary, petulant, angry ARM pinhead. No one invited you ARM pinheads to the Intel board. But if you are going to be here you should at least post some content. Where is your content for today? All you've done so far is try to harass me.]
Dear me, Wallis. I don't know enough to discus it with you? That's a child's answer. As for harassing you, I have done nothing but answer your questions. That is content.
Who is this petulant, angry ARM pinhead because for a second, I thought you where talking about yourself?
As for your posts on ARM, look at your own posting history for the last 24 hours. Who starts most of these threads?
[I rest my case. But good job of telling us everything you know in less than 5 seconds.]
:) Again, avoiding any conversation. Yet, you still ramble on about ARM...You post MORE about ARM than you do about INTC. Why is that?
[It's all about connectivity, pinhead - not about what it's connected to with the connectivity. Tell me everything you know about whitespace, propagation and spectrum sharing. Then tell me everything you know about sensors and RFID. Tell me what the single biggest problem is blocking the expansion of the IoT today. Go ahead, I have 5 seconds. Once again you demonstrate that you are not even conversational about the IoT. ]
Typical response from you. Ignore my answers, and change the substance of the topic. However, I'll still answer your questions. As a side, no, it's not *just* about connectivity.
I know little about "whitespace, propagation and spectrum sharing", but I suspect I know more about it than you do. As for the "single biggest problem is blocking the expansion of the IoT", there isn't a single big problem. It depends where you are sitting. There are LOTS of problems and there are LOTS of solutions.
[That's it? Micro-controllers? You have to be kidding me. That was a brief conversation in which you demonstrated that you knew little or nothing about the IoT. I asked you to describe what a typical IoT device would be and all you could respond with was micro-controllers demonstrating that you really know zip about the IoT. And you want others to believe that that short conversation was the extensive discussion you alluded to. Your dishonesty approaches that of someone who welches on football bets. Micro-controllers are a part of the IoT but the IoT is definitely not all about micro-controllers. ]
So, you do remember the conversation eh? Remember how it ended?
However, I'll give you the courtesy of answering your questions. Yes, that is it. The humble micro-controller and the deeply embedded CPU.
You don't understand what a microcontroller is, how it's used, and why there is such growth potential for ARM (the company).
IoT is a buzz phase, it means different things to different people, and has existed in products for many years (embedded devices connected to networks). Remember that conversation? Remember the examples I gave? Remember that some of those examples were x86 based?
Look at Intel's embedded division (which has been rebranded). Does this mean all IoT devices are going to be tiny cores such as ARM's M0 range? Clearly, the answer is no. You'll see Intel carve some nice high end, high value chunks out of the market. But I'll tell you this, there are few companies that have the breath of IP that span the range that ARM does. From the humble M0 (16K transistors), through the rest of the M range, the R range and then the A range. Look around you, who's IP are people using?
Lets keep it closer to home (this is the Intel board, not the Walis ARM board). The latest Intel acquisition, another ARM user. Look at Intel's own wearables, mostly ARM again. Expand it out, using this new hype segment, wearables, almost all ARM again. On and on and on.
[You have a vivid imagination. In the real world we have not gone over it time and time again. This is your usual response. Alluding to support you've never provided along with the usual cheap shot. Your descent into meaningless pap is complete.]
Yes we have. Embedded. Microcontrollers. Remember? You then go on about Intel's plan for domination, I then remind you think Intel hasn't got a product in this area. You then go quiet for a few months and the cycle continues.
Absolutely nothing! Just ignore all that silly news about phone and tablet sales declining.
While tablet sales are falling, as are high end smart phones, the total smartphone market is expanding.
While you like to fixate on tablets and phones, that is only one aspect of the ARM story.
Much of the smartphone industry will become a race to the bottom like we've seen for tablets, but there will also a be special category of devices that will justify a premium price. A smartphone that gives full Windows desktop-portability when docked is certainly in that category
FYI, Microsoft isn't allowing the desktop on any device with a screen under 8 inches. You'll have to wait a little longer for your dockable device:)