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thespyisfalling 17 posts  |  Last Activity: Feb 11, 2016 8:06 AM Member since: Aug 3, 2010
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  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Feb 11, 2016 8:06 AM Flag

    Just think about the debits and credits. So what my thesis does is extend the life of the lets them print for much much much longer.

    I have not done this.......but if you were to take a look at who holds USA DEBT, I think that it would interesting to simply look at what is held by the BANKING SYSTEM versus what is held by let us say.......entities other than the banking system.

    I would say that if you back out that which is held by social security trust's funny .......and then back out everything that is held by the banks you end up with NET DEBT OWED TO OTHERS than the banks and SOCIAL SECURITY and who knows what other government agencies..........

    That is the true debt. for starters.

    If I owe you and you owe are in control of the won't owe me Jack S_it........right? So of course ......since the US GOV really controls the BANKS theory.....then in the end ......the debts owed back to the BANKING SYSTEM will be forgiven or reclassified......,I do not see a better way to continue the shell game.

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Feb 11, 2016 7:45 AM Flag

    You are correct Pud. So this is my thesis about what to expect. There will be a new way to account for debt.

    Government debt will be classified in to different types. The debt that the US GOV owes the Banking System will be reclassified as something other than debt. It will be called something like..........." currency distributed for government necessities "

    That debt obviously can never ever get repaid so why not just call it what it is.

    An IOU called a treasury given to the banks that simply can not and will not ever get repaid.

    Then there will be another kind of government debt. The debt that is floated to public that is not part of the banking system. So let's say there is a pension fund that simply wants to loan the gov back some money.......that debt will be shown as what it is......debt floated to the Private Sector.

    The reality is that the banking system and the Federal Government are basically incestuous anyway.. Why else would the phony profits of the FED be given back to the treasury anyway? The banks are really not private anyway. Is anything? But out of all entities the banks are simply the ones closest to K street.

    So my guess is that we will see some type of new accounting rule created by the AICPA or FASB that states how to handle this so called DEBT that was created when the banks printed money in exchange for worthless IOU's.

    Or,,,,,,,,the whole thing will just collapse. Do not forget......the FASB came out with a way to handle the bad housing debts held by the banks when housing values were substantially less than mortgage values. They did not force the banks to take an immediate write off which would have blown everything up.

    We will see some accounting rule changes. It is the only way to keep the game afoot.

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Feb 8, 2016 8:17 AM Flag


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    More and more selling in the cash market

    by dareyou2007 Jan 13, 2016 11:57 AM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 13, 2016 11:59 AM Flag

    Selling? OK, who? That is what I really want to know. TO who?

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 13, 2016 11:44 AM Flag

    I have followed you on GM. GM is in a 1 year down trend. BUT, the short was much higher.

    I see this trade that you are engaging in as a counter trend trade. There is NO WAY you could have known how low this could have gone.

    31.48 is the 1 year trend now what are you going to do? Hold for a gap fill to 34's?

    Very curious.

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    look at MS

    by texasbroker2000 Jan 7, 2016 1:34 PM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 7, 2016 1:58 PM Flag

    Any Bank that is holding government paper is obviously in trouble since government paper is pretty much a worthless IOU. Wonder how much worthless gov paper the banking system is actually holding. Wait...trillions?????

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    Soros: It's the 2008 crisis all over again

    by seennsee Jan 7, 2016 7:37 AM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 7, 2016 7:46 AM Flag

    The entire point of glass-stegall was to make sure that Banks, not Investment Banks........but plain boring banks were not speculating in the stock market.

    Investment Banks, which were just glorified stock brokerage firms, only had so much fire power.

    The moment that Goldman and the other cronies were given access to borrow to pump stocks was basically the beginning of the problem. The bottom line is the pumpers have more money than their clients so of course there can be no place to sell their overpriced is that simple.

    Mom and pop do not have the clout to move a price. Clearly Wallstreet was given access to something that they of course abused.......and now we will see where things go. They did that when the packaged up mortgages. Look at the result.

    All promoters have to maintain bids......when they do not who can support price?

    Whatamarket has a point. Nothing has changed.

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 6, 2016 9:02 AM Flag

    The Glass-Steagall Act, also known as the Banking Act of 1933 (48 Stat. 162), was passed by Congress in 1933 and prohibits commercial banks from engaging in the investment business. It was enacted as an emergency response to the failure of nearly 5,000 banks during the Great Depression.

    Now just exactly when did this get thrown under the bus?

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    even as a PermaBear this scares me....

    by nogwabd Jan 6, 2016 7:23 AM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 6, 2016 7:49 AM Flag

    Equities are a scam for one big reason. Consider how many people actually understand basic accounting.

    How many? So few. How many understand data sets and how to actually spot a trend? And then look at just how far away a data point is away from a generated trend line or curve?

    Not many. So it gives the financial firms a massive advantage because the uninformed are putting all their trust and faith into the hands of someone that is supposed to be looking at for the well being of the uninformed?

    The only other thing I can think of that is very much like that is Faith Based businesses. Yes, I said Business. Can you say Altar Boy? Can you say Jim and Tammy Faye?

    This is what Wallstreet is all about. Taking advantage of the people that are utterly uninformed and have absolutely no clue about what exactly an Asset is supposed to be and how to price it.

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    $1.5 Billion Hedge Fund Shuts Down

    by hyperinflationhyenas Jan 5, 2016 8:45 AM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 5, 2016 8:54 AM Flag


    My understanding of the algos are that they somehow are able to look at order flow and then move things around to their advantage.

    But in the end, the truth is that equities are a very questionable type of asset class. They simply change price way too often which implies a complete lack of stability,

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 4, 2016 9:32 PM Flag


    I think you are also forgetting something. Technology is a double edged sword. As much as it can help it has also destroyed many jobs. I suppose some would call that progress. I will tell you what I find to be quite ironic.

    There is a company that builds robots to do things like build cars, for instance. But, the robot builders are all humans.......go figure........I wonder what will happen if the robots start building robots........

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    has nothing to do with china

    by barc37000 Jan 4, 2016 9:52 AM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Jan 4, 2016 10:01 AM Flag

    Only market left that has 1 year rolling bullish trend is NQ......everything else was no longer that way anyway......all bearish formations

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Dec 31, 2015 3:56 PM Flag

    Ah PUddy,

    Averages are completely useless. They do not show a trend.......and just what average is the correct average?

    Besides, they lag horribly. It is just another scam street myth.

    There is no correct average.

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    Wells Fargo just raised to 3.5%

    by a1shub Dec 16, 2015 2:14 PM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Dec 16, 2015 2:48 PM Flag when it is all said and must understand the agenda which is to PUMP STOCKS and PUMP INDEXES.

    Did you happen to notice how prices were orchestrated UP at 2 pm........there was a reason for that.

    So back to trading as usual.

    Have to know exactly where the MAIN TREND is every day.

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Dec 10, 2015 9:25 AM Flag

    how can you fight for peace if you are a PEACE PRICE Laureate fight for peace would be the same as lying to make sure the truth is not ever seen.....kinda sorta........

  • thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Dec 10, 2015 8:02 AM Flag

    Did Trump really say anything that is so terrible? The bottom line is if you know there is a certain profile that tends to think very very differently with regard to the value system that is espoused in your homeland, and there is a behavioral risk associated with that profile, why put your own land in danger at all?

    Is it really a violation of rights to keep a certain threat out of your home? Maybe this commentary sounds racially motivated but it's not.

    If you are going to blow people up do it the right way with missiles and bombs and tanks and warplanes.

    Proper killing protocols must be enforced.

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    Boring PPT Spike

    by hyperinflationhyenas Nov 16, 2015 10:06 AM
    thespyisfalling thespyisfalling Nov 16, 2015 10:33 AM Flag


    They are still trying to protect the 1 year rolling trend line........Trend is always linear regression. Run a 252 day linear regression curve on a daily chart.........pretty close to what they are up to.

    THen run 252 day vwap or 252 day average......or a median.....does not matter.......if 252 day trend is under LAGGING 252 day median or average or vwap........then bear market formation.......sell when ya can.

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