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tigerpac 28 posts  |  Last Activity: Jun 4, 2016 11:22 PM Member since: Aug 2, 1998
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  • Reply to

    You can't say I didn't warn you all

    by manana365 Jun 3, 2016 9:41 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac Jun 4, 2016 11:22 PM Flag

    That's three times you've patted yourself on your back..I seem to recall that your initial posts were badmouthing Suncanna. No mention of ever being impressed by anything.

    However Suncanna was the worst of all the guys involved as the former owner managed not only to get cited by the Colorado Enforcement Agency, he didn't pay back rent and he skipped out of town with his plants in trailers. Even worse (or better depending on your viewpoint), he sold his company to others and it turned out to be nothing more than a shell.

    Hard to believe you were deciding between a penny stock and Facebook..

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Hope everyone sold on that crazy pop today

    by hweb2 Jun 3, 2016 2:00 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac Jun 3, 2016 2:49 PM Flag

    JVA has always been a company that relies on hedging gains and losses. They are attempting to be less reliant than in years past. So if results get bashed when there is a big hedging loss there should be the same enthusiasm when there is a big gain.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Mckowen resigned

    by tigerpac Jun 3, 2016 9:27 AM
    tigerpac tigerpac Jun 3, 2016 1:32 PM Flag

    What do you mean how? The news was announced three months ago...

    McKowen recognized he would make far more money owning Suncanna that he would at Two Rivers. He tried to do them both and the conflicts of interest were very obvious. I even pointed them out here and to my phone calls to Two Rivers. It was never made clear whether he took over Suncanna before or after they got into trouble with the Colorado Enforcement Agency. Having rent agreements forgiven when you are both landlord and tenant is pretty shady though some will think otherwise depending the date of ownership of Suncanna.

    I hope Harding sticks it to McKowen if the later wants to re-lease the greenhouses.. Problem is that TURV/Growco needs Suncanna more than the other way around. The MJ plants that were harvested and those that were growing belong to Suncanna (and probably the former owner) anf TURV has no rights to them.

    Bottomline, Turv/GrowCo has greenhouses but no tenants or pot.

    Colorado Investor Group Purchases Suncanna
    .

    DENVER, CO--(Marketwired - Mar 4, 2016) - GrowCo, Inc. ("GrowCo"), a wholly owned subsidiary of Two Rivers Water and Farming Company (OTCQB: TURV) ("Two Rivers"), announced today that a Colorado investor group, headed by John McKowen, the CEO of Two Rivers, and Tim Beall, the Operations Manager of Suncanna, LLC, has entered into an agreement to purchase the membership interests of Suncanna, LLC, which leases GrowCo's first greenhouse, located in Pueblo, Colorado.
    John McKowen stated, "We believe the private investor group's purchase of the Suncanna membership interests will better support GrowCo's growth and the interests of Two Rivers' shareholders.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • tigerpac by tigerpac Jun 3, 2016 9:27 AM Flag

    http://archive.fast-edgar.com//20160601/AT2Z322CB22262Z2222D2CNUNU8CZ2225A82/

    Due to his conflict of interest being the new partner of Suncanna.. Wonder if Harding is going to seek back rent when Mckowen tries to re-lease the greenhouses?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    BTN transition to a holding company

    by trader1984 May 23, 2016 3:05 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 24, 2016 1:03 PM Flag

    Thank you for posting this. It thoroughly explains things.

    I wish Kyle would explain these things to his shareholders instead of letting us speculate. Good management would do that for it's owners .

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Chapter 11 coming next

    by manana365 May 19, 2016 1:18 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 24, 2016 12:54 PM Flag

    I think this situation is happening all over Colorado now. Framers who hold the license to grow are skipping out on their landlords without having to pay a dime. The landlords don't ever touch the plant, and do not have growing licenses, so they are stuck. Shady practices from pot growers are nothing new. They have just taken it to the next level and taken advantage of those who are new to the game and have money to burn.

    BTW, the City of Pueblo are making several busts per week on illegal grows at houses. Hundreds of plants confiscated at each location rented by guys who only hold medical licenses to grow less than a dozen plants. The lure of quick money is attracting the wrong element and the crime rate in Pueblo is skyrocketing. The city in turn is really starting to crack down on all pot growers, legal or otherwise.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Chapter 11 coming next

    by manana365 May 19, 2016 1:18 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 23, 2016 1:29 PM Flag

    Essentially TURV/Growco was funding Suncanna. Suncanna owns the cannabis inventory. What is unclear is if previous Suncanna owner is the owner of the plants or if the TURV/Growco partnership are the new owners. Judging from how unclear these filings have been, I would say the old owner owns all the plants and TURV/GrowCo has got squat and a Notice of Suspension order to boot which means they have greenhouses but no plants.

    Which means no money to pay for the dam repair. Which means they MAY have to borrow money at high interest rates or try to raise money at a highly discounted offering or sell off land. Not good. So much for those rose colored glasses videos. This management is looking for a shareholder lawsuit IMO.

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    Due the eviction process, during the three months ended March 31, 2016, we wrote off $743,000 in Lease Revenues – Related Party, wrote off $587,000 in advances to Suncanna, and did not recognized any Lease Revenues – Related Party. The total write off of $1,287,000 is partially off-set by a $350,000 reduction in the amount owed to the GCP1 preferred unit holders.

  • Reply to

    Chapter 11 coming next

    by manana365 May 19, 2016 1:18 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 23, 2016 12:08 PM Flag

    The whole situation is very confusing. In March, Growco executives buy Suncanna and discuss al the related party lease revenues. In April an 8-K comes out saying Suncanna is paying 40% of weekly crop revenues to pay down past due leases. A week later we get news that Suncanna has received a Notice of Suspension .Then we lean that GrowCo does not have any rights to Suncanna’s cannabis inventory, Then we learn that Growco is writing off past due lease revenue and prepaid expenses and evicting Suncanna. Does that mean that Growco is essentially evicting itself because they are the new owners of Suncanna or has Two Rivers been issuing false or at least misleading press releases about what is really going on.

    Looks like the former owner of Suncanna played Two Rivers by having them grow his weed once everything started to be harvested, he cleared out his inventory and got the hell out of dodge without paying Growco a thing and Two Rivers is left holding the empty bag.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Canadian #$%$

    by rjyea May 20, 2016 9:04 AM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 20, 2016 10:04 AM Flag

    KBXMF is the stock symbol for Kobex Capital.....

  • Reply to

    Canadian #$%$

    by rjyea May 20, 2016 9:04 AM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 20, 2016 9:53 AM Flag

    This a completely out of left field announcement. Kobex has been engaged in a proxy battle with another company trying to take it over. Why the &*(^$ BTN is sticking it's nose into this arena is baffling..a Canadian natural resource play, even if it's been promised to be a slam dunk.

    This move from a company that is afraid to purchase it's own shares on the open market is a total crapshoot. But you have to figure that someone knows something or else BTN is going to get sued to the point of extinction.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Product/concept is NOT the problem

    by pizzaman6260 May 17, 2016 1:06 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 19, 2016 4:30 PM Flag

    You need to see high single digit YOY same store sales increases before you should invest another dime in the stock. While I haven't checked, I'm sure there are some incentive bonuses for executives to sign up new franchises and book that money up front but if sales decline every year thereafter that is not a growth business.

  • Reply to

    Product/concept is NOT the problem

    by pizzaman6260 May 17, 2016 1:06 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 19, 2016 11:01 AM Flag

    I have followed and was invested with this company since Schwarz got involved almost a decade ago. It took them years to get Pizza Inn turned around just to reach breakeven point and from there it is has just
    stagnated. Got out in the 9 area on it's way up in 2013 so by no means did I get out on top.

    The P5 concept was then born and the initial excitement over relatively inexpensive free standing stores goosed the stock price. Then the company actually had to execute on it's plans. It's hasn't really done a good job. When average weekly sales YOY are declining 8% that is a bad trend. And that was higher than the previous Q comp of 5%.

    The name change was intended to reinvent the company's identity from an old concept to a new concept. However this stock has become a "buy on the rumor, sell on the news" stock. Wage pressure and raw material costs will outpace price increases and the ability to stay competitive will hurt margins in a big way.

    The only thing P5 seems to be concerned with now is to try to get as many new locations open in order to show increases in system wide revenue quarter after quarter. What happens after those stores open is the franchisee's problem.

    I think a slow slide to the 3 area is in the cards as the company continues to disappoint I think they just overestimated the potential performance of P5..

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Product/concept is NOT the problem

    by pizzaman6260 May 17, 2016 1:06 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 18, 2016 11:07 PM Flag

    Competition in the pizza business is just way too tough. No barrier to entry. Customer loyalty is hard to maintain. And with minimum wage rates set to increase, pizza prices will have to increase as well. Larger chains can absorb the wage increases longer than P5 stores. But Rave continues to pump out the dumb fluff PR's Stock should continue to drift lower as this is really a value trap, not a growth company.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • tigerpac by tigerpac May 16, 2016 10:20 AM Flag

    On April 14, 2016, we received notice from the Marianna Enforcement Division of the Colorado Department of Revenue that Suncanna received a suspension order. This caused Suncanna to be in violation of its lease with GCP1. Therefore, GCP1 began eviction process against Suncanna. Due the eviction process, during the three months ended March 31, 2016, we wrote off $743,000 in Lease Revenues – Related Party, wrote off $587,000 in advances to Suncanna, and did not recognized any Lease Revenues – Related Party. The total write off of $1.287 million is partially off-set by a $350,000 reduction in the amount owed to the GCP1 preferred unit holders.

    On May 2, 2016 converted GrowCo’s $1.5 million promissory note offering to a $5.0 million promissory note offering at 22.5% per annum and included a warrant in Two Rivers common shares for each dollar invested at $0.50/share and a warrant in GrowCo common shares for each dollar invested. Both warrants expire May 21, 2021. The investors that invested in the $1.5 million note offering were offered an exchange to the $5.0 million note offering, of which $150,000 have converted. As of May 6, 2016 GrowCo has raised $1.305 million, which includes those that converted from the $1.5 million promissory note offering.

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    No mention of what happened to the pot already harvested or what is happening to the pot plants that wre in process of growing. Will need to call management to see if suspension order means all existing plants must be destroyed....Guess management is either accruing rent since they are the new owners or they are just awarding themselves free rent. Doesn't look good.

  • Reply to

    ? for future CEO's

    by bohemianclubman May 11, 2016 4:05 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac May 11, 2016 5:22 PM Flag

    Regretfully nothing has changed at Pizza Inn except for the name and the number of meaningless PR's. How many CEO's have there been over the past 10 years? Each one tries something different yet the result is always the same. Decent first year sales, then continuous YOY same stores sale declines. The only people making money are the CEO's with their inflated compensation package. And the only way to pay for that is to continually sell franchises that wind up cannibalizing each other.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Merger

    by tigerpac Apr 29, 2016 9:41 AM
    tigerpac tigerpac Apr 29, 2016 10:41 PM Flag

    I guess the new metric is 2x BV.

    3x BV happened during the tech bubble. Happy it got sold.

  • tigerpac by tigerpac Apr 29, 2016 9:41 AM Flag

    Sold cheap to Mechanics Bank for $37.19 per share, slightly less than 2x book.

    I would have expected 3x book which used to be historical purchase prices for banks. Maybe times have changed.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    I tried to warn you all

    by manana365 Apr 25, 2016 5:17 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac Apr 28, 2016 11:40 PM Flag

    If Suncanna never paid any rent then I can't see how they were supposed to be respected. The way the story has been presented is that the Colorado Marijuana Enforcement Agency was all over Suncanna and not GrowCo. When Suncanna got into the agency's view finder remains the question though.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    I tried to warn you all

    by manana365 Apr 25, 2016 5:17 PM
    tigerpac tigerpac Apr 26, 2016 11:29 AM Flag

    For the most part you were correct. Some of the details were off but understand if you were an employee of Suncanna or a subcontractor you would want to be vague as well.

    Sentiment: Buy

  • Reply to

    Suncana failed to pay TURV rent?

    by bbmichael2000 Apr 21, 2016 7:50 AM
    tigerpac tigerpac Apr 22, 2016 11:07 AM Flag

    Here is the way I read it and my interpretation:

    The Colorado Marijuana Enforcement Agency issue the suspension. That can be done because Suncanna was in violation of a rule or a number of rules that violated it's license. Could be improper signage, lack of badges, smoking of the product where people under age 21 are but most likely bad paperwork or bad accounting. Could also be a result of competitors who went on tours of the greenhouse ratting to the agency because the price of Suncanna's weed in 1/2 of current market price.

    McKowen just purchased 50% of Suncanna last month. That was probably when the demand for back rent was made according to their lease because they made a production crop for sale. Back rent for this greenhouse is (105,000 sq ft x $20/sq ft (annual rent) x 1.5 years (18 months) = $3,150,000 .

    With projected sales of just $1.2 million per month (based upon GrowCo updates) divided by partnership interests and overhead costs, there was no way that Suncanna could pay the back rent on demand. It would probably take them at least a year.

    TURV can only recognize revenue when rent is paid. In theory it could recognize it now but if never paid it would have to eventually get reversed. The stock is reacting because the $3.15M in revenues won't ever hit the income statement as the purchase of Suncanna into the TURV/GrowCo family will likely result in a forgiveness of that back rent imo.

    GrowCo/Suncanna needs to resolve the Notice of Suspension quickly before it becomes a revocation of the license which would doom the company. They will not be able to sell any of the pot that already has been cultivated. The City of Pueblo is showing that no company is going to get away with anything not by their set of rules.

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