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toad4you22 151 posts  |  Last Activity: 1 hour 39 minutes ago Member since: Aug 25, 2011
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  • toad4you22 toad4you22 1 hour 39 minutes ago Flag

    By May 5th, there will be a better deal from NOK, another suitor like the Japanese or no deal at all. The deal stinks to high heaven and smells like the French government and unions. Law suit are being filed as we speak and more on the way. They have been caught !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    by toad4you22 Apr 17, 2015 1:53 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 17, 2015 3:23 PM Flag

    Honestly, I don't know about European anti-trust regulators in Europe, but the USA anti-trust lawyers here in the USA are about to kill the Comcast/TWC deal. So maybe regulators over there will step in. Maybe not over anti-trust issues, but over fair value issues. I know there was a lawsuit filed in NY yesterday over fair value issues of ALU. If NOK doesn't sweeten the deal, especially after revelations about Softbank sniffing around ALU, more lawsuit to come...... :)

  • toad4you22 by toad4you22 Apr 17, 2015 1:53 PM Flag

    Is dragging global markets down, dragging ALL stocks down today. There will be an 11th hour agreement with Greece and the markets will rebound rather quickly. It also looks like this NOK/ALU deal was kind of a shotgun wedding by the French government to keep Softbank from sniffing around. Sounds to me like this NOK/ALU deal is far from a done deal. Lawsuits are being filed as we speak. Lets not forget about the sale of HERE MAPS from NOK which will bring in anywhere, from what I heard, 2-5B. That will pop NOK PPS up over 8.00/share and should take ALU with it. How much ALU goes up, nobody knows. Right now, markets down and BIG money who got burned the other day are still shorting trying to recover their money. Painful yes, but it should start to turn around once the dust settles........ :)

  • toad4you22 by toad4you22 Apr 17, 2015 12:26 AM Flag

    does anyone know when NOK will sell HERE maps and to who????? :)

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    by stockryder1 Apr 16, 2015 1:53 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 9:56 PM Flag

    Stock, I have no love for this garbage of a stock, believe me it has been one disappointment after another. The only reason I'm hanging around is to see what happens when NOK sells HERE MAPS. If ALU doesn't get a pop out of that, then nothing will and I don't plan on being here when NOK issues new stock to buy ALU, diluting both companies. I'm willing to see what happens. Apple has a lot of cash and needs maps since their own maps failed miserably. Hell, Apple has so much cash they might even decide to buy out both companies just so they can say they are the worlds largest telecom equipment maker. You don't us a land line or a cell phone without using a lot of Bell Lab patents. 30-40B is chump change for someone who almost has a trillion in cash. I have no desire to get in a pee contest with anyone except Sam and his canoe. I have always though I contributed rational thought to this board. I do not judge other peoples actions and wish them all well...... :)

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    The Long Embrace

    by wb46 Apr 16, 2015 4:54 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 9:43 PM Flag

    You want to be out before NOK issues NEW stock to purchase ALU with, as that will hurt ALU's PPS as well as NOK's PPS. No cash massive dilution deal. That being said, the sale of NOK's HERE MAPS should propel NOKJ's PPS over 8.00/share pulling ALU up with it. ALU's PPS will move back up over 4.00/share allowing some people who got burned the other day to get out.....

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    Just watch out for

    by stockryder1 Apr 16, 2015 2:35 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 2:55 PM Flag

    Sure, I'll wait........ :)

  • toad4you22 by toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 2:47 PM Flag

    The bashers appear to have come out of the woodwork. Some downgrades and even a few upgrades. I wouldn't look at ALU news as much as I would look at NOK news. ALU PPS is going to be pegged to NOK PPS. One major thing to look at is the sale of NOK's HERE maps. I've heard anywhere between 1-5B for that, that is sure to increase NOK PPS as well as ALU's PPS. Another thing to remember is that NOK got ALU for basically what the wireless division was worth and got the rest of the company for free including ALU's crown jewel Nuage networks. Once the hype settles down and people start to realize all of the assets NOK got on the cheap, NOK's PPS will start to head up again taking ALU with it. I am not normally a cheerleader on stocks, but just had to say something about all of the bashers. They are trying to get you to sell before the sale of NOK's maps........ :)

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    Just watch out for

    by stockryder1 Apr 16, 2015 2:35 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 2:39 PM Flag

    Market correction???? Don't fight the tape. Only thing that will set of a market correction is a geo-political event. The new 10% correction is only 3-5% these days...

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    by stockryder1 Apr 16, 2015 1:53 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 2:06 PM Flag

    We'll find out soon enough. When NOK starts going back up and ALU doesn't go with it, then it's time to sell....

  • toad4you22 by toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 12:10 PM Flag

    Filed in NY this morning saying deal does not reflect ALU's fair value. Don't know if it matters though. I own both NOK and ALU long.................

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    Combes made it very clear throughout his tenure

    by sam.deanj Apr 16, 2015 11:12 AM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 11:52 AM Flag

    Yes, consolidation is key. Everyone else is doing it. But you don't just give away a company for a sack of marbles. This company has a book value of 11.00/share. The wireless division is worth what the current stock price is alone. You have undersea cable and lets not forget about Bell Labs and all of its patent revenue. ALU has enough cash to pay off all of its debt. Combes was bought and paid for by NOK. The socialist French don't care about shareholder valuation because NOK said they would increase French workforce and keep all current jobs in France. BAD DEAL.............................

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    The Tombstone Formation – ALU @ 3.96

    by carolyn_novice Apr 16, 2015 9:51 AM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 10:18 AM Flag

    You can throw all of your experience or lack thereof and charts out the window. ALU share price is pegged to NOK now. Although ALU oversold currently, pretty soon you will be able to take NOK's price and multiply it times .55 and that should be ALU's share price. ALU longs are hoping for a counter offer from someone or NOK to start doing really well and pulling ALU up with it. Would be even better if someone with a lot of cash did a takeover of NOK.......................... :)

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    ALU share price is now CONNECTED to Nokia's

    by sam.deanj Apr 16, 2015 1:00 AM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 16, 2015 2:02 AM Flag

    Yep, looks like we are all going to be pulling for NOK to do well from now on. NOK gets to 10.00/share, alu goes to 5.50/share. If NOK goes to 15.00/share, ALU goes to 8.25/share. Gooooooo NOK........

  • toad4you22 by toad4you22 Apr 15, 2015 10:33 PM Flag

    of negotiations, Combes passed out free jars of Vaseline to all of the ALU shareholders..................

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    Just Vote Against people and it will not happen

    by m_e_jas Apr 15, 2015 6:18 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 15, 2015 10:27 PM Flag

    If you want more, consider what Combes said, "This is not a merger it's an acquisition by a bigger company". He also went on to say Nokia will be a European Champion, something some investors where confused because at first they thought he was talking about ALU

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    Merger completion date...

    by rockettn Apr 15, 2015 4:22 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 15, 2015 10:23 PM Flag

    When does the dilution, new shares, are issued??????????????????

  • toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 15, 2015 10:19 PM Flag

    Combes needs to lite a match.............

  • toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 15, 2015 10:14 PM Flag

    The Europeans have shown me they really know how to F up a wet dream. Just waiting to see which way it goes after the dust settles. If it starts trending down AGAIN, I am gone..........................................

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    EXPLANATION !!! DEAL NOK/ALU ..................

    by genyale62 Apr 15, 2015 8:30 PM
    toad4you22 toad4you22 Apr 15, 2015 10:06 PM Flag

    Trying to put lipstick on a pig...................

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