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vafn_goulo 6 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 26, 2002 10:55 AM Member since: Jul 22, 2002
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  • vafn_goulo by vafn_goulo Jul 26, 2002 10:55 AM Flag

    I have read so many enlightening posts here recently. I must say that DSY has stated his case well.

    Two quick points and then I best be at the sidelines. I'm still forming a stance as I've been given more information.
    1) If Israel returns to its 1967 borders and the Palestinians continue to create upheaval, then I think the Israeli's can legitimately say "I told you so" and would have to take serious offensive action at that point. Who could then blame Israel for its defensive position.
    (Their offense would therefore be construed as a defense). I also understand that no other Arab country has allowed Palestinians to live among them with honor. Palestinians are treated like dregs and kept in squalor for political use only. In the absence of a Palestinian cause, I'm fairly certain many Arab states would turn against each other as they historically have.
    2) As for Shehada, I doubt if any counrty would tolerate his actions. He chose to live by the sword then I suppose he chose to die by the sword. Some of us do choose our calling and he chose his. I understand that Israel had requested to the Palestinian authorites to arrest him and they scoffed at that because evidently he was not incarcerated. Here in the US there is a case in California where a little girl was kidnapped, sexually assaulted and murdered all because a jury acquitted the perpetrator a year and a half ago for molesting two girls repeatedly. Had the jury done its job, that little girl would still be alive today. Had the PA arrested and jailed Shehada, Arabs must know that he and his family would be alive today.
    I know that neither side likes to be bombed yet both sides continue. Each for her own reasons, each side seeing it as legitimate. This insanity needs to stop.

    I know I like to believe in "One God, One People", but how does one continue in the face of an attitude that says "Our God, Nobody Else" It is us against the infidels". Excuse me? I am no infidel. How do you teach compassion to a group that wants you dead if you are not Muslim?

    I think that if history were to be debated in an open forum for the world to see depicting ACTUAL events eliminating all the rhetoric then more TRUE information would come to light. We need to try this case - the case for the middle east - as we would in a court of law. Both sides present the entire picture, both sides to realize the futility of continuing the madness and both sides reaching an amicable and viable solution.
    I feel though, that it if both sides were to immediately stop shooting, somehow it would be the Arab side that would start the fireworks all over again. I don't see Israel as the aggressors only as people who defend their country from attack. AS WE WOULD DO! Let me repeat that: AS WE WOULD DO!
    If I were given 95% of what I expected, I'd be ecstatic. Can you imagine someone offering you 95% profit on an investment? Would you say "NO!" and proceed to whittle it back down to zero? Arafat has missed a golden opportunity for sure. The world must surely see this. The world must surely see that he does not want an end to the intifada. After all, wouldn't that make him unemployed?

    I may digress, I may rant, I may recant. I don't know what I may do next. Sign me confused and if critcism against me occurs, so be it. This is what freedom is all about. As opposed to some countries where it purely doesn't exist.

    DSY and others, thanks for opening my eyes a bit wider.

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    by vafn_goulo Jul 23, 2002 4:45 PM
    vafn_goulo vafn_goulo Jul 24, 2002 1:37 PM Flag

    It is bad all the way around. No winners at all. Only losers on all sides. This cycle needs to stop. But how? If Earth was to be visited by aliens, they would only see one species. That's how I try to view the world. There is one God for all people or there is no God at all. I respect diversity, and like a cultural anthropologist might say, there is necessity in all cultures; each offers a puzzle piece in humanity's picture - but we are all nevertheless one and the same: human beings.

    I responded a bit harshly in my last posts, I think out of anger at the callousness of nasdaq_1000's posts. He offers no solutions, only tries to stir up anger.

    I am not Jewish but was drawn to this stock after 9/11 looking for strength in companies that provide security. MAGS caught my attention and I've looked into it trying to guess the ups and downs. I am not invested in it. I'm still trying to figure out the usefulness of this product. What's your take on the utility of MAGS products?

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    by vafn_goulo Jul 23, 2002 4:45 PM
    vafn_goulo vafn_goulo Jul 23, 2002 6:52 PM Flag

    You badmouth a bunch of stocks in a declining market and sure enough, they fall. You call this an accomplishmnet?
    Okay, tomorrow, the sun will rise in the morning. Talk to me tomorrow about my prediction.
    Do you want to claim intellectual savvy? Show me a stock that will rise in this market. Also, I highly doubt you have any investment in the market. You are all talk. In fact the more you rant, the less you say. But again, you are an idiot if you believe these boards. Hmmm, where have I heard that before.
    Best you keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an idiot rather than open it and remove all doubt. YOU'RE TOO LATE, you genetic defect!
    By the way, if you are a spokeperson for your cause (whatever that is), I feel sorry for your group.

    Go ahead, have the last word. It's meaningless, anyway.

  • vafn_goulo by vafn_goulo Jul 23, 2002 4:45 PM Flag

    These are your own words:
    "you are a total idiot for believing these boards!!!"

    So why should we believe anything you write? Your own words tell us not to.

    I also notice you are out of control over several other message boards - and you are not well-liked in any of them. Your credibility is pretty well non existent. But as long as you are talking up political fantasies and taking up the Palestinian cause, tell me, how many Arab countries host and respect Palestinians? How many Palestinians have been killed, abused, kicked out of Arab lands, etc? Did you know that Arafat and his cohorts are multi millionaires and have become so wealthy as a result of the Palestinian plight, yet fail to pass along any of their proceeds to the folks they supposedly serve? How many tears have you cried over disease and malnutrition suffered by Palestinians at the hands of their own people?
    Perhaps you should take your issues to Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Lebanon, Egypt, Lybia, Algeria, et al and ask them why they don't invite more Palestinians to live among them. And how many Palestinians have you invited into your home? Or your parents' home as the case seems to be. You certainly don't sound sensible enough to have a place of your own.
    And calm down a bit. You might want to try an antidepressant. You deal with a lot of diplaced anger. In a couple of your posts on other boards, you mentioned that you turned in some posters due to the content of their posts. What's to stop someone here from turning you in to Yahoo then to the FBI as a potential domestic terrorist. You sure fit the profile.
    Before you complain about others, you might want to try some serious introspection.
    Harmony is what we all need - not hate mongers like yourself who continue to feed the endless cycle of death with lies and hysteria.
    Before you write back with any more of your rhetoric, take a good look deep down inside yourself and ask yourself if you are truly worthy in your own God's eyes. But don't look so deeply like you have been doing with your head so far up your ass.

    My contention is that there are only two kinds of people on this planet: nice and not nice. Which category do you think you belong in?

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    down 13% in one day! someone is selling

    by nasdaq_1000bust Jul 22, 2002 3:40 PM
    vafn_goulo vafn_goulo Jul 22, 2002 4:03 PM Flag

    With an innocuous remark like that, you've destroyed any and all credibility you thought you had. EVERYTHING"S DOWN you nitwit.

    Must be a slow day at Helga's trailerpark.

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