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vmldem 78 posts  |  Last Activity: Sep 27, 2014 1:33 PM Member since: Aug 18, 2005
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  • vmldem vmldem Sep 27, 2014 1:33 PM Flag

    Once the financing is approved PPS will skyrocket.
    Meanwhile we're at the gold price whim.

  • Reply to

    1yr target is wait for it....

    by opele1 Sep 16, 2014 2:27 PM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 16, 2014 8:56 PM Flag

    Got a starter today at 0.2.
    Coming Oct.15th financing done PPS will hit 0.3-0.5.
    Hopefully will get lower short term.

  • Reply to

    2 institutions dumped millions of shares recently

    by jhnvtjll Sep 15, 2014 9:36 PM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 15, 2014 9:40 PM Flag

    Mind to post that link?
    I'm too laizy to search for it.

  • vmldem vmldem Sep 15, 2014 9:37 PM Flag

    Took a severe hair cut on this.
    If down to 0.5 I have to double down hoping to recoup before year end.

  • Any time they PR something PPS get shafted.

  • Reply to

    To Get Dividend, Hold trhough 10/01/2014

    by cj.whit Sep 15, 2014 4:10 PM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 15, 2014 9:25 PM Flag

    Who care about the divvy anymore?
    Instead of holding thru Sept.30th then sell at the deep unknown discount why not buying low like today and sell tomorrow for a few thousands $ profit?
    IMO PPS took a dive today due to one poster here bringing info about some BK issues back in 2011.

  • vmldem vmldem Sep 15, 2014 11:29 AM Flag

    Meanwhile someone dumping billions of shares.
    I did stick a fork in this pig hoping the dumping will stop sometime.

  • Reply to

    why is falling? absurd!

    by greenmountain500 Sep 15, 2014 10:44 AM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 15, 2014 11:12 AM Flag

    Per info posted on this board one guy got the order as a result of BK to liquidate 56% of Emerson in 2011 . He never did.
    IMO this info will be more disseminate and PPS getting closer to $1.

  • Reply to

    Dividend

    by jdunrod2 Aug 28, 2014 10:13 AM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 4, 2014 1:28 PM Flag

    Last time dividend pattern chart doesn't mean PPS this time will behave the same.
    Normally PPS will adjust up with the dividend amount when it's announced.
    Sometime shorts are caught by surprise have to cover and PPS will overshoot
    IMO $2.3 was the highest since some shorts already covered.
    It'll languish between $2-$2.2 till Oct 1st.
    The big unknown how much will fall down on Oct.1st.
    Some posters are saying $1.6 before the divvy PR was ridiculous low.
    Any sub two dollar could be a good price for someone willing to hold till Oct.1st to collect the divvy assuming the $1.6 will hold on the ex date.

  • Reply to

    Dividend

    by jdunrod2 Aug 28, 2014 10:13 AM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 4, 2014 12:46 PM Flag

    IOW on Oct.1st the pps will adjust 70 cents down from what ever level will be at that time.
    PS.I'm out of this stock since I don't see much meat left over.
    If PPS fall sub two I'll reconsider.

  • Reply to

    Dividend

    by jdunrod2 Aug 28, 2014 10:13 AM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 4, 2014 12:41 PM Flag

    Oct.1st is the ex date.
    Perhaps you should read this:
    Dividends Or Distributions
    25 Percent Or Greater Than
    Security Value
    The second method, under
    subparagraph (b)(2) of Rule 11140,
    provides that for dividends or
    distributions that are 25 percent or
    greater of the value of the subject
    security, the ex-date shall be the
    first business day following the
    payable date. For example, if an
    issuer has announced August 10 as
    the record date and August 31 as
    the payable date, then the ex-date
    will be September 1, the first
    business day after the payable
    date. In this example, September 1
    is the day on or after which a buyer
    would purchase the security without
    the dividend and, therefore, the day
    on which the price of the stock is
    adjusted downward. In this
    example, a seller of the security on
    August 15, even though the holder
    of record to receive the dividend,
    would have to relinquish the
    dividend to the buyer. Indeed,
    because the value of the security
    on August 15 has not yet been
    adjusted downward to reflect the
    dividend distribution, the seller in
    this example would be unjustly
    enriched by keeping the dividend.
    The seller would have received the
    value of the dividend twice: first, as
    fully reflected in the unadjusted
    price of the stock on August 15;
    and secondly, as subsequently paid
    by the company to record date
    holders Less

  • Reply to

    Dividend

    by jdunrod2 Aug 28, 2014 10:13 AM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 3, 2014 8:49 PM Flag

    Nope. If you buy on ex date(Oct.1st) you're not getting the divvy anymore.
    In order to get the divvy you have to own shares thru Sept.30th.
    Dividends Or Distributions
    25 Percent Or Greater Than
    Security Value
    The second method, under
    subparagraph (b)(2) of Rule 11140,
    provides that for dividends or
    distributions that are 25 percent or
    greater of the value of the subject
    security, the ex-date shall be the
    first business day following the
    payable date. For example, if an
    issuer has announced August 10 as
    the record date and August 31 as
    the payable date, then the ex-date
    will be September 1, the first
    business day after the payable
    date. In this example, September 1
    is the day on or after which a buyer
    would purchase the security without
    the dividend and, therefore, the day
    on which the price of the stock is
    adjusted downward. In this
    example, a seller of the security on
    August 15, even though the holder
    of record to receive the dividend,
    would have to relinquish the
    dividend to the buyer. Indeed,
    because the value of the security
    on August 15 has not yet been
    adjusted downward to reflect the
    dividend distribution, the seller in
    this example would be unjustly
    enriched by keeping the dividend.
    The seller would have received the
    value of the dividend twice: first, as
    fully reflected in the unadjusted
    price of the stock on August 15;
    and secondly, as subsequently paid
    by the company to record date
    holders

  • Reply to

    Rephrase my question?

    by wakebrdng41186 Aug 29, 2014 3:24 PM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 3, 2014 5:07 PM Flag

    Can you share what your broker said?
    I want to see if these horses neighing same tune.

  • Reply to

    Rephrase my question?

    by wakebrdng41186 Aug 29, 2014 3:24 PM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 1, 2014 2:05 PM Flag

    PS.I knew the shorty need to pay the divvy if they short between these two dates but for the normal trader too?
    I'll find out tomorrow from ETurd.

  • Reply to

    Rephrase my question?

    by wakebrdng41186 Aug 29, 2014 3:24 PM
    vmldem vmldem Sep 1, 2014 2:02 PM Flag

    In order to be on record Sept.12th you have to buy by Sept.9th
    In order to get the divvy you have to hold till Oct.1st.
    I'm planning to get a clear answer tomorrow straight from the horse mouth-my brokerage and Emerson radio as well.
    What it bothers me is one poster here sounding like if you trade between the sept.10 and Oct.1st you have to pay the divvy to the goofy one buing the stock from you

  • Reply to

    Dividend

    by jdunrod2 Aug 28, 2014 10:13 AM
    vmldem vmldem Aug 28, 2014 11:00 AM Flag

    You're correct Juno.
    Some shorts on this board were trying to create confusion by posting all kind of misinfo.such as if divvy is more then 25% of whatever balloneys....
    Here the highlights again:
    1. In order to collect the divvy you need to be on record on Sept.12th
    2.To be on record on Sept.12th you need to buy three business days ahead of time
    IOW whoever want to collect the divvy need to buy no later then Sept.9th which is Tuesday.
    I know you'll get a lot of responses from so called profesionals aka shorts on this subject.
    PS I've been thru a hefty divvy last year from ALBKY

  • Reply to

    xdate i

    by bobbyjopro Aug 27, 2014 3:07 PM
    vmldem vmldem Aug 27, 2014 5:44 PM Flag

    The way I read it if you still own the stock on the Sept.12th you should get the divy on Oct.1st.
    Of course there are many opinions on this board.
    This is from the horse mouth:
    HACKENSACK, NJ--(Marketwired - Aug 22, 2014) - Emerson Radio Corp. (NYSE MKT: MSN) today reported that the Special Committee of its Board of Directors declared an extraordinary cash dividend of $0.70 per common share payable on September 30, 2014 to shareholders of record of the Company at the close of trading on September 12, 2014.

  • Reply to

    Bought the Dip

    by long_term_investor1 Aug 27, 2014 10:49 AM
    vmldem vmldem Aug 27, 2014 2:07 PM Flag

    So did I
    $2.5 next week

  • Reply to

    OK folks

    by vmldem Aug 26, 2014 10:37 AM
    vmldem vmldem Aug 26, 2014 4:24 PM Flag

    Oh my....
    I completely forget about shorts paying divy thru ex date...
    This should be fun to hold.

  • Reply to

    Taxable

    by allrighthiyall Aug 26, 2014 3:35 PM
    vmldem vmldem Aug 26, 2014 4:21 PM Flag

    Regardless of specialists answer on this board it is 100% taxable.
    Last year I've been thru a significant divy from ALBKY.
    The point is right now focus on making money and worry about taxes when they're due.

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