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vt_investor 347 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 29, 2014 3:30 PM Member since: Apr 29, 1999
  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 29, 2014 3:30 PM Flag

    Lang, I'm not sure how a grade jury works in Missouri. but why would a judge tell one witness to keep quite, but not tell any of the other half dozen witnesses to do the the same thing?

    I could easily understand why a lawyer might tell a defendant, especially one with a fairly weak case, to keep quiet, though. And that appears to be what has happened. If he says anything now, he can't easily change his story later. That's the way the lawyer game works.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 29, 2014 1:42 PM Flag

    Wrong. Innocent until proven guilty is the law of our land, and correctly so.

    But, I'll also ask why, if he is innocent, why he doesn't do what he needs to do to demonstrate that innocence.once and for all. He knows what happened. If his story shows that he is innocent, let everyone know what he did to protect the lives and of himself and the citizens he was hired to protect.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 29, 2014 10:22 AM Flag

    Exactly, and if he knew he was innocent, and he had the story to show it, we'd have heard it 2 weeks ago. So, you think we;ll keep on waiting, and he won't tell his story? What do you think he's got to hide, if he won't shoot this down right now?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Name HIILLARYCLINTONS top 3 achievements, lefties

    by c8w73 Aug 28, 2014 1:39 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 29, 2014 12:42 AM Flag

    Not sure if these are the top, but they certainly count.

    1. Was elected US senator. (16 US presidents were elected senator before being elected president)
    2. Was a US Secretary of State. (6 Presidents served as Secretary of State before being elected president)
    and 3. is being considered as a candidate for president by many.

    What are your 3 top achievements?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 29, 2014 12:35 AM Flag

    We are still waiting for the police office to tell us how many shots he fired; where he was standing hen he fired them; and where Brown was standing when he fired them. Let us know whet he says, when he tells us that.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Good econ news means bad market opening

    by unclefulbert Aug 28, 2014 8:57 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 29, 2014 12:27 AM Flag

    What projections are you reading? The ones I've seen say that the Q3 and Q4 GPD should be somewhere near 3%. Based on the full restaurants, full shopping malls, and home sales in my area, i see no reason to doubt that estimate, although things may be different elsewhere.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    What Keeping the Dollar Almighty Costs Us

    by w.heinlein Aug 28, 2014 1:30 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 28, 2014 5:25 PM Flag

    We could probably drop the corporate tax rate to 20% or 22% if we also got rid of the thousands of pages of tax loopholes built into the code.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 28, 2014 4:15 PM Flag

    That is completely illogical, HBF. Obama is no more responsible for ISIS, than Nixon is responsible for the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, or Bush Sr. is responsible for the million who died in Rwanda. The US has no jurisdiction in any of those locations. The people who live there are responsible for their own actions, as horrible as they may be. Is there anything we might do to help? Maybe, but it's hard to see what it might be in most cases. And sending hundreds of thousands of soldiers might very well make the situation worse, as we've just proven in Iraq., and we are probably proving again in Afghanistan.

    What would you do that wouldn't cost thousands of American lives, and a trillion tax dollars or more, and that would certainly improve the situation?

    Our president, whoever he is, is always responsible for the decisions he makes. That's his job. If he makes a decision based on possibly faulty information, that's still his responsibility. A good leader works hard to know which sources of information to trust. GWB completely failed at that part of his job.

    GWB'x decision was suspect from the start. I didn't support it, but I didn't oppose it either, because I assumed that at last some of the things he said were true. It was clear from the beginning that those who were responsible for 9-11 were not from Iraq, and they received little, if any, support from Iraq. That, alone, should have been enough to let GWB know that he was aiming at the wrong target. Unfortunately, when you aim at the wrong target, the results can disastrous.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    What Keeping the Dollar Almighty Costs Us

    by w.heinlein Aug 28, 2014 1:30 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 28, 2014 3:39 PM Flag

    Yes, Canada, which like us is a participant in NAFTA. Goods made in the US, Canada's biggest trading partner, are not taxed, just as good from Canada are not taxed in the US. And Canada provides health care at low or no cost, with trough a publicly funded system, funded through taxes. There's your tax competitive view of Canadian taxes.. Are you now saying that we should do just what Canada dos?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Good econ news means bad market opening

    by unclefulbert Aug 28, 2014 8:57 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 28, 2014 12:59 PM Flag

    Yes, the GDP has been low for too long, but NOW it is growing at a 4.2% level. That's about where it should be a for a strong economy. Combine that with the recent report of the highest consumer sentiment in the past 6 years, and things do not look too bad for the next year. The issue is not what it was last year, but what it will be next year. So, again, let's hope we don't see a bubble in the near future., but simply a good strong economy.

    If you wanted a faster recovery, be sure ask you representatives before the next election why they were not spending 10 hours a day, 6 days a week in session, talking about jobs, the education needed to get good jobs, how to deal with the fact that, with increased productivity and automation, employers need 10% fewer employees to make the same profits, the fact that many big employers are not paying enough to keep employees from needing food stamps, and welfare.. Also, the unbalanced budget, the massive debt, immigration, and all the other huge problems that we face, and that only they can do much to solve?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Good econ news means bad market opening

    by unclefulbert Aug 28, 2014 8:57 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 28, 2014 9:45 AM Flag

    Jobless claims of 300K is not very much in this country. It's just 0.1% of the population, or maybe 0.2% of those who are working or looking for jobs. More people than that change jobs to find a better one.

    And for the GDP, the issue is not what it was in the past (if it was, why not average the GDP over he past 6 years, instead?). The important issue is what the GDP is now, and what it will be in he future. And, in fact, we should perhaps not be concerned about a low GDP, but instead of one that gets too high and creates a bubble that will burst and cause future problems. (Remember back in 2005 and 2006 when so many people were buying high priced homes that they could not afford?) It's pretty clear that the GDP will be well above 3% or 4% by the end of the year. How high is too high?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 27, 2014 2:01 PM Flag

    There's nothing illegal about spending as much as you want on a political campaign (as long as you have the money to spend).

    Millions a dollars are now coming into this state to fund ads against our current senator. (Sometimes 2 or 3 in a row!) None of it's local money. It's all legal. If that much outside money is coming into a state where the funders don't even live, than that's usually a good sign that the senator is doing what she was elected to do.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    When the law can't be enforced

    by langosta_fla Aug 26, 2014 11:17 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 27, 2014 9:42 AM Flag

    The witnesses say there was a gun shot in the car (or out of the car). We'll just need to wait until the police officer tells us why he shot his gun there.

    The witnesses all say that Brown had been grabbed by the policeman, and he was pushing away, and trying to get away. We'll need to wait until the policeman tells us what he thinks happened.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    When the law can't be enforced

    by langosta_fla Aug 26, 2014 11:17 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 26, 2014 11:55 PM Flag

    The only one with a gun, according to the now 5 eyewitnesses, was the police officer. If a police officer was shooting in my direction, I'd probably do just what Brown did - turn around with my hands up, as the eyewitnesses say Brown did.

    We STILL haven't heard the police officer's story.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    When the law can't be enforced

    by langosta_fla Aug 26, 2014 11:17 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 26, 2014 11:36 AM Flag

    "The police see a couple of big guys walking down the middle of the street. The police ask them to move out of the way because they're blocking traffic. They ignore the policeman. What's the policeman supposed to do then?"

    Shoot them, of course! If you've got a gun - or a hammer - it'll probably do just fine to fix whatever problem you have.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    More Background On Ferguson, Racist Cop Reassigned

    by trueallday Aug 25, 2014 11:33 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 26, 2014 11:24 AM Flag

    The issue is not so much the report,itself, although I'm sure that the police department rules say that one must be written.

    Instead the issues are what the policeman saw and did. So far, he has said absolutely nothing about what he saw and did. I can't see how any honest, policeman with nothing to hide, would delay a minute writing and publishing what he saw and did. It's his job to protect the public, and to do so openly and and with the safety and support of the citizens he serves in mind. Is that what's happening?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    So much for the vaunted Obama recovery

    by springer_1994 Aug 26, 2014 10:23 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 26, 2014 11:11 AM Flag

    The issues in not simply the overall tax rate. It's a little more complex than that. Most US companies pay a far lower effective tax rate because of all the thousands of loopholes that exist.

    .We really, really, really (did I say really!) need to elect some representative to Washington who will actually do some work for their high pay! Our tax laws must be changed to remove the tax loopholes (including those used by Burger King), and that makes sure that EVERY company that does business in the US pays an equal level of tax to keep their government's books balanced, and our legal, defense, and national infrastructure up to date, and strong. Simple. No loopholes. Everyone pays for the defense and infrastructure that they grown their business on. How do we elect people who are willing and able to do this?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 26, 2014 11:00 AM Flag

    So, if what you say is true, then the states with the lowest state and local taxes should be doing a lot better economically, and with jobs, that the state with the highest taxes. Here are the states with the lowest state and local taxes:

    Alabama
    South Carolina
    Nevada
    New Hampshire
    Tennessee
    Louisiana
    Texas
    South Dakota
    Alaska
    Wyoming

    If what you say is true, then these states should be leading the economic boom out of the recession, with jobs and growing businesses. What happened?? Instead, it's the states in the Northeast, and Midwest that have the lowest unemployment, and best economies now.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    More Background On Ferguson, Racist Cop Reassigned

    by trueallday Aug 25, 2014 11:33 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Aug 26, 2014 9:44 AM Flag

    I misstated slightly when I said that no report had been filed. An incident report form was filed. I gave the date and said that someone had died. (Even you could have written it! ;) In particular, it contains no eyewitness account of what happened, who did it, or what the policeman response was. So, even you or Springer could have written it, baaed on your observations of the scene at the time!

    I hope you are having a great day on the water, and outside these beautiful, almost fall, days, Lang.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Aug 25, 2014 1:29 AM Flag

    Maybe or maybe not. We'll see when all the witnesses tell us what happened. As best anyone can tell there were only 3 or 4 witnesses who actually saw what happened. All the witnesses who have spoken tell about the same story. There is only a single witness, so far who has not spoken.

    The police officer, probably the most important witness, has said absolutely noting so far. He hasn't even submitted an incident report, that all policemen are required to write. Until he speaks and does what his job requires that he do, we won't know what happened, Until we have the incident report, as required from any police officer, whether for an accident resulting in a scratched fender, or for a shooting death, we won't know what his story is. What are the normal consequences for a policeman who refuses to write an incident report for a homicide? I don't know. but until he speaks and tells us (and his police chief), what happened, it sure looks like he's got sometime to hide. An incident report that shows that he was attacked, and that he was simply protecting himself would probably have stopped the past week of rioting cold. But, unfortunately, there was no such report.

    It looks like we will simply need to wait a while longer to see what his story really is, and see how it matches the stories of the other witnesses, which have already been told.

    Sentiment: Hold

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