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vt_investor 270 posts  |  Last Activity: 1 hour 2 minutes ago Member since: Apr 29, 1999
  • vt_investor vt_investor Jul 19, 2015 10:59 AM Flag

    Aug.6 or maybe Aug 3 now. The Manchester Union Leader and papers in iowa and S. Carolina are running a debate in New Hampshire with all candidates invited. It will televised by C-Span, and perhaps others. I think that more than 10 have already said yes, and some others are still thinking about it. Fox is headed to a big loss in the debate game. They won't even let John Kaisch, Ohio governor, and perhaps the most rational of all the Republican candidates to participate in the Fox Ohio debate.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    US Only Sanctions Not Worth A Penny

    by trueallday Jul 17, 2015 3:16 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 19, 2015 12:14 AM Flag

    Lan, as far as sanctions are concerned, Europe, Russia, and China are the important players (with the US). IF Europe, Russia, and china end trade sanctions with Iran, than the sanctions will end, regardless of what the US does. And Europe, Russia, ad China have all promised to end the sanctions, id Iran stops their nuclear weapon work. Given world geography, and trade patters, those countries will be the primary traders with Iran. Lowering the boom on Iran will consist of a restoration of the sanctions, so Europe, Russia, and China will be the primary ones to lower that boom, as well, which is what they have agreed to do, with the US.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    R-heds 4,900, Confeds 9

    by langosta_fla Jul 17, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 18, 2015 11:07 AM Flag

    I think that the genetic/Celtic connection is probably bogus, as well. However, (not i'm going to contradict myself..) the initial settlers were English. They got tehr first and settled on the coastal plain, whee they created he big plantations, and owned most of the slaves.Later, eh Scotch, Irish, and others arrived. The was no more room on the coastal plain, so they moved west into the mountains. A large part of those who owned, and still own small Appalachian farms were of Scotch or other Celtic descent. They had small farms, and never owned slaves.

    Then when the war started, many in the mountains distanced themselves from the rich coastal plantation owners. In fact, West Virginia separated from Virginia and joined forces with the north.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    R-heds 4,900, Confeds 9

    by langosta_fla Jul 17, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 17, 2015 6:34 PM Flag

    Lan will certainly correct me if I'm wrong, but his confederate sy,sympathies may be related to fact that he grew up in Alabama.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    R-heds 4,900, Confeds 9

    by langosta_fla Jul 17, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 17, 2015 5:50 PM Flag

    People can always sell whatever they want to sell. The only rule that must be followed that when you do sell something, you can not discriminant who you will sell it to.

    By the way, what's a gay wedding cake? Vanilla or chocolate? Strawberry or hazelnut frosting? Bakers can sell any kind of cake they wish (gay or otherwise ;). They just can't discriminant who they will sell it to, based on race, religion, sexual orientation, language spoken, or anything else.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jul 17, 2015 5:37 PM Flag

    How many of those coming here from Mexico, Brazil, Bolivia, Guatemala, and elsewhere in Central and South America come here by plane with a valid passport and visa, and then forget to return, and how many try to cross the southern border through the desert? How many drive across the border with a valid passport and visa, and then forget to return, and how many try to walk across the desert? It might be a good idea to do a little research before spending many billions of dollar on a fence that juts might not stop nearly as many of those illegals as you think.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    R-heds 4,900, Confeds 9

    by langosta_fla Jul 17, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 17, 2015 5:24 PM Flag

    If the abolitionists did not exist there would never have been a Civil War. It was the abolitionists who pointed out the fact that slavery was a heinous moral abomination. Without the abolitionists, there would not have been any disputes over which states were slave state and which were free states. Without the abolitionists, all states would have been slave states. Without the abolitionists, slave owners would have remained free to use slaves on their plantations, farms, and in their factories. Slave owners would have remained free to shoot sick slaves, just as they shot sick and injured horses.

    But the abolitionists did exist, and they would not stop their work until every states was a free state, even if it meant fighting a war, and sacrificing lives to end the moral abomination of slavery. And those in the slave states fought hard to preserve their Constitutional right to keep their slaves as they wished to do.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    R-heds 4,900, Confeds 9

    by langosta_fla Jul 17, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 17, 2015 5:04 PM Flag

    Lsan, are you actually saying that we now need to make laws to require Amazon (and Walmart and others) to sell some things? That we make a law to require that Apple design their apps in certain ways?

    We can ask our governments to remove the flags from government (i.e. publicly owned and operated) buildings and locations. Except in the case of dangerous things, we can not tell people or businesses what they can display, buy or sell.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    GOP Has No Alternate Plan for Iran

    by trueallday Jul 15, 2015 1:45 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 17, 2015 10:13 AM Flag

    Sure they have an alt4rnative plan. It's simple to see from their various statements.

    Their plan is.: Don't talk with them. Don't create, or trust, an agreement that is a order of magnitude stronger than any ABM and nuclear bomb agreement that we have ever made with Russis/the USSR. Instead, wait until a Republican in in office and them start a $5 trillion war that will cost us tens of thousands of American lives.

    Based on what they have said, no other plan is possible. Just ask Springer. He'll tell you what their plan is.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    GOP Has No Alternate Plan for Iran

    by trueallday Jul 15, 2015 1:45 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 16, 2015 12:50 PM Flag

    You'll need to explain what you mean by a "fully functional Nuke", because it's been shown that North Korea may have a couple dozen functioning Nukes.now.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jul 16, 2015 10:51 AM Flag

    The thousands who died in the Civil War were all American citizens. Perhaps we should use the American flag in American cemeteries to commemorate their contributions of life and limb to our country. We remember things that were a part of history in museums and encyclopedias.

    We must not assume anything about anyone who wants to fly that flag, but we must remembers the what the flag symbolizes to most Americans, and why.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jul 16, 2015 10:20 AM Flag

    Exactly. People can chose to be racists and hate others because of their skin color, religion, or physical infirmities, but governments that represent all the people can not.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Political Actions Have Consequences

    by w.heinlein Jul 15, 2015 3:09 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 16, 2015 9:53 AM Flag

    Lan, none of those people HAD a boom box - or a car., although Thomas Edison did work hard to make it unnecessary to hire real musicians to pull along in your wagon behind a team of horses.

    Yes, the Beatles were thought to be subversive - and the Dead even more so. And you should read what people wrote about the waltz when it was introduced here about 1820. Read the 19th century broadside with the title, "Proof that Waltzing is the Main Source of Weakness of the Body and Mind of our Generation" Dub step or waltz, I'm not going to worry about it, but I may try it out! Try something different every day!

    Sentiment: Hold

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    Political Actions Have Consequences

    by w.heinlein Jul 15, 2015 3:09 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 11:56 PM Flag

    Lan, Amerce culture has not done much to corrupt our youth. If it had, you, I, and all our friends, and millions more would be corrupt. That hasn't happened (at least speaking for myself ;)!! Instead our children have been taught, for generations, to do things differently, to not do things just like our parents. We teach our kids in school about people like Eli Whitney, George Washington Carver, Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and many more. They all succeeded by doing things differently. That's what we teach our kids, and that's what they do. Not so much corrupt in the end, as creative, and willing to try anything.

    I think that Iranians, and others, recognize this, and respect it, and America, at least in part because America does allow anyone to do what they want to do, even if it is a bit "different". Opening Iran up to America and the world may help them to make some positive changes, especially the younger ones, who have had little access to the rest of the world.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    Political Actions Have Consequences

    by w.heinlein Jul 15, 2015 3:09 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 5:24 PM Flag

    Iran is the largest nation in the Middle East (except for Pakistan). It is also about the most democratic nation there. This would leave only north Korea unable to trade with the rest of the world. Will Iran join the rest of the world peacefully, as the countries in Eastern Europe and Vietnam did? Will they work to quiet the Sunni/Shia ISIS/Iranian fight, or will they dive in, making the battle even bigger? And, finally, how will they manage their relations with Israel? Certainly keeping nukes out of their hands will make whatever choices they make less frightening and difficult.

    But, in any case, with a stable, democratic government, a strong economy, and open trade with the world, Iran will be in a position to control much of what happens in the Middle East.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    Laugh this off liberal clowns

    by springer_1994 Jul 15, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 5:01 PM Flag

    Sounds about right - at least for Texas. First they refuse Medicaid, then they sue them.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    Laugh this off liberal clowns

    by springer_1994 Jul 15, 2015 12:47 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 1:34 PM Flag

    Really?? Medicaid is a federal program. The Feds don't sue for Medicaid fraud. They prosecute.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Proof Obama's Economics are not working

    by springer_1994 Jul 14, 2015 12:05 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 12:27 PM Flag

    "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know which are true" - Abraham Lincoln

    (I hope I'm not being too subtle, here..)

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 9:28 AM Flag

    Spring, no one is arguing with about retail sales and retail sellers. What you continue to seem to completely miss is that there are other bulk purchases who are not retail sellers, and who buy the books in bulk for marketing purposes, which is completely unrelated to any real interest in the book as a work of art or literary interest.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor by vt_investor Jul 15, 2015 8:41 AM Flag

    Why is there such a disconnect between Americans and those who represent them in Washington? Polls are now showing that nearly 2/3 of all Americans support the no nukes deal with Iran, but their representative in Washington are still in opposition to the deal.

    Likewise about 2/3 of all Americans now support gay marriages, but, again, their representative don't appear to have heard the news and still oppose gay marriages loudly.

    Why is it that those in Washington no longer seem to represent Americans? Leaders?? They can't even follow correctly now.

    Sentiment: Hold

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