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vt_investor 324 posts  |  Last Activity: 5 hours ago Member since: Apr 29, 1999
  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 10, 2014 7:34 PM Flag

    My goodness! You mean to say that you think it would take decades for a Republican administration to "fix" the employment problem, and reduce the 200,000 new jobs each month now to the loss of 750,000 jobs a month that we had when Obama took office? What else would they "fix", if they had decades to do it?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Against Any Carry Because....

    by trueallday Jun 10, 2014 4:33 PM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 10, 2014 7:22 PM Flag

    The difference is real easy to tell! The real men take their guns into the woods to go hunting. The paranoid psychotics take them into restaurants, shopping malls, and schools to use them there. The difference is entirely in how and where they use their guns. Until we figure out how to keep guns out of the hands of the paranoid psychotics, we are going to have a problem in restaurants, shopping malls, and schools.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 10, 2014 2:45 PM Flag

    Cars are used for something besides killing (or practicing to kill). And, over the past decades there have been dozens, if not hundreds of technical improvements to make cars safer, including seat belts, air bags, crushable bumpers and frames, shatterproof glass, gas tank strengthening, child seats, and lots more. These improvements have lead to a huge decrease in the number of auto deaths and injuries over the past few decades.

    What technical improvements have we adopted to make sure that children and the mentally disturbed can't so easily kill others? There have been a bunch of improvements, actually. Instead of a single shot at a time, we can now shoot dozens of bullets a minute. And instead of being able to load a single shot at a time, we can now load 6, 8, 10, 20, and even larger magazines so we can shoot as many times as we wish, in just a few seconds. 8 year old kids and the mentally ill love all these new improvements, which make things so much easier for them!

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    So much for "Pot is harmless"

    by springer_1994 Jun 10, 2014 8:20 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 10, 2014 12:38 PM Flag

    Marijuana kills many fewer people than guns do (but remember, guns don't kill people, ...). Marijuana related deaths are much closer to zero.

    However, alcohol does kill many more than guns do, and there are many deaths each year that involve both guns and alcohol.

    So, if you want to outlaw intoxicants, including pot and alcohol, go ahead and try it. But, a word of caution, both have been tried outlawed before, and neither has worked.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 10, 2014 11:23 AM Flag

    Do you really have the same wet dream every night??

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 10, 2014 10:17 AM Flag

    And you propose instead what?

    Do you think that it's best to only tax some of us to pay for our army, navy, marines, air force, and coast guard; courts; roads, schools, and everything else? Who would you tax, if you don't tax everyone? Just the poorest among us? Or simply borrow the money to fund all those things, with no though of ever paying off the loans?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 9, 2014 2:43 PM Flag

    Why did you pick the age 54 for your numbers? Oh, i see that's the age of most of the youngest baby boomers. There were nearly a million more people born each year during the baby boom years than in the following decades. For, example, in 1957, there were 4.3 million births. In 1977, there were only 3.3 million births.

    So, there were 500,000 to a million fewer Americans born in each of the years that people under 54 years old were born. We also then expect to find many fewer jobs and job holders for people under 54, now that all the baby boomers are in their 50's or older?

    It's demographics, not political leadership. It's impossible to lead anyone who doesn't exist to work, even if they were a Republican!. (But try it, if you wish).

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 9, 2014 11:58 AM Flag

    "he obviously doesn't care about employment."??

    Really? Then do you think that the change since he took office from losing 750,000 jobs a month during his first month, to now gaining more than 200,000 jobs a month to be just good luck? That's close to a positive change of a million jobs a month..What else does he need to do to add more jobs - and balance the budget?

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Breaking the Consttitution

    by langosta_fla Jun 9, 2014 10:27 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 9, 2014 10:49 AM Flag

    Lang, what are you trying to say?

    That if those 2 Las Vega shooters had appeared before a jury, that no jury would have convicted then of any crime, but defending the Constitution, and they would have gone free??

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    Crazed Soverign Citizen Shoots Up GA Courthouse

    by trueallday Jun 8, 2014 12:47 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 9, 2014 10:17 AM Flag

    As understood by our founding fathers, and as written in the Constitution, the state militias were the primary method we used to defend ourselves against foreign threats, with some federal support and funding.. Many feared giving the feds the full ability to raise an army, so that power was shared with the states. The Constitution gives the states the power to appoint all commanding offices in their militias, for example, with only the President, as CiC, over them all.

    By the end of the 19th century, the militias were essentially replaced by a real federal army that bypassed the state militias. In that legislation, the militias became essentially a national guard to help in various emergency situation, mostly not military threats.

    The 18th century fears of a militarily strong federal government are now long gone, as can be easily seen by the current strength, power, and funding, of of our federal army, navy, marines, and air force.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 6, 2014 3:01 PM Flag

    And unfortunately, it is mostly a n issue of demographics. In 1978, the baby boomers were just beginning to enter the work force. (Before that, the participation rate had been as low as 58%, back in the 1950's and 1960's). Baby boomers are now leaving the workforce. The participation rate will drop to about 58% again over he next decade or two, as all the baby boomers retire. And it won't matter who the president is, as he won;t be able to convince any of them to go back to work. It's demographics, not politics.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 6, 2014 2:14 PM Flag

    Lang, it looks like your numbers are a bit off. "Most" manufacturing work has never been union labor. At it's peak, about 35% of American workers were in unions during the 1950's (A decade when our economy, wages, and wealth grew faster than it has ever grown before). In the 1980's about 20% of American workers were union members, and now that number is below 12%. Most industrial work has never been unionized.

    And in 2009, government workers accounted for more than half of the nation's union workers. But even government workers (mostly teachers, policemen, and firemen) a are only about 35% unionized.

    Union workers have never, ever, been a majority of either industrial, or government workers, although is easy for some to pick a small group, like GM auto assembly workers in Michigan, or teachers in NYC, and deduce from that that all industrial works and all teachers are union members. But they would be very wrong!!

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    No media bias at all is there.........

    by springer_1994 Jun 6, 2014 11:09 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 6, 2014 11:51 AM Flag

    Exactly! If he had deserted to join the Taliban, why would he have even wanted to come home, and why would he have tried to escape at least twice, as has been reported? And finally, why would any serviceman leave his post to walk in the desert, where his life was in danger, with no supplies or support? Let's get the whole story, before we make any judgements? There are way too many unanswered questions to be able to make any kind of informed judgement now. An American POW is home now. That's a good thing. We'll eventually learn what really happened.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 6, 2014 11:35 AM Flag

    I agree, and at some point we will also need to do something about our dilapidated infrastructure. There are tens or hundreds of thousands of houses and business buildings that are abandoned and falling apart. They all need to be either repaired or torn down and replaced. . At the same time our roads, bridges, and airports are in very bad repair. They need to be repaired, rebuilt, or replaced, with that infrastructure continues to be under an increasing pressure of a population that is growing by about 3 million people a year.

    If we let our infrastructure continue to fall apart, we become a 3rd world country. When we fix it, there will be millions of additional construction jobs.

    In addition there are lots of new technologies waiting in the wings to be built and used, including things like self-driving cars, solar rooftops, and roadways, energy storage devices, and more. There will be hundreds of millions of new jobs to make, sell, and maintain all these new things. And, i know of lots of young people who are ready now to get started on this. We just need to decide how quickly we get started.

    Given all the young people who I know and have been working with, I have no worries about the future. There will certainly be some demographic issues as we boomers move along, but it looks like we (and they) can solve these problems as soon as we decide to do it.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 6, 2014 11:11 AM Flag

    I guess that there are some people who will be surprised to learn that right now there are RECORD numbers of US citizens living right here in the good 'ol US or A!

    One of the biggest problems with work today, is the ways that it has changed over the past couple of decades. Now there are some more very high paying jobs for the wealthiest among us. That 1% or 5% continues to grow in size (just about as fast as our population grows!!) And their incomes increase at the fastest rate of anyone else in the country, too.

    At the same time, the number and income of the people at the other end of the scale (where poverty thrives and grows) is also increasing.

    It's the peoepl in the middle, the old middle class who are moving out to either end of the scale. Why is this? That answer is easier to understand when you look at the manufacturing costs for all the things that we buy today. Take an iphone for example. Most reports show that of the approximate $250 cost of an iphone, less than 10%, or $25 of that cost is for the labor to make it. Similar evaluations for other things that we buy, have been made. For a car, today, the manufacturing labor costs are also $10, or less of the total production price. The same is true for televisions, refrigerators, and just about everything else we buy.

    30 years ago manufacturing labor costs were a much bigger percent fo the final cost, for a couple of reasons. first we didn't have all the fancy robotics and production equipment that now do much of the work that a worker's hands did 30 years ago. So, more people were hired back then to do the work. Those workers were paid more, on an inflation adjusted basis. Middle class pay has been flat (inflation adjusted), since Reagan was president. So, even though today's workers are MUCH more productive, they are seeing none of the benefits of their increased productivity.

    So, how do we fix the problem? Middle calls workers work harder and produce more , but they are paid less, or not at all.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    New data .........

    by springer_1994 Jun 5, 2014 7:34 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 5, 2014 9:47 AM Flag

    Something is very wrong with your report! If there realty has been no change for a couple of decades, then then last fall, our first frost would have been the end of September, rather than near Halloween, as it really was. And if there has been no change, then our last from this spring would have been about May 20, rather than April 20, as it really was.

    Until there is real data that shows otherwise, the real data here, and in most of the country, from Alaska to Maine, in Europe, Australia, and Asia, shows that warming is alive and well. It hasn't changed much in the past few years, but it is still a lot warmer than it was in the past. And secondary effects, including big storms, melting glaciers, floods, and droughts, are happening more and more often, as well.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 3, 2014 2:38 PM Flag

    I think it's very regional, and also it depend on what era you are talking about.

    It's regional because in some areas (especially the south) health insurance and care is not easily available, through employers or on one's own. There, many love it, in spite of the long waits, and long drives. However, in other places, where employers provide health insurance if they can do it at all, and where a decent doctor can be found within a few miles, the long drives and long waits for the VA are not well appreciated.

    And, finally, a few decades ago, in our grandparents day, Congress understood our WWII veterans' legacy to the nation, and they funded the VA at a level that better represented what we owed our veterans then.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 3, 2014 10:39 AM Flag

    Many Americans are finding themselves in the position we are in here now. Our newest car is more then 6 years old, and our oldest car is nearly 20 years old. At some point soon we will need to replace one or more of those vehicles. But, the auto manufactures have, at least partly brought this on themselves. Cars last much longer now than they did. It's not hard now to find millions of cars that are well over 10 years old, and still going strong. People just don't need to buy cars as often as thy used to buy them, so sales are going to be slower now.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • vt_investor vt_investor Jun 3, 2014 10:20 AM Flag

    That's exactly what I've been telling my reps, and others. Sell all the Vet hospitals and clinics to private companies, or give them to non-profits. (Would the VFW want to run some non-profit hospitals and clinics?). Then begin something we might call VETAid, something similar to Medicaid, but for veterans, which would pay for health insurance for VETs. Then they could pick any doctor or hospital they wished (no more 200 mile drives), and get much better and quicker care, as well. In addition the bureaucracy would be gone, and the costs for taxpayers would be less.

    Special veterans' health care was created in an era when millions of Americans had no health care at all. Now that's changed, and everyone can get health care, so we should take advantage of those changes, and give our vets decent and more easily available heath care, too.

    Sentiment: Hold

  • Reply to

    bettyfan, ISM data erred: 56%, not 53.6%

    by unclefulbert Jun 2, 2014 11:42 AM
    vt_investor vt_investor Jun 3, 2014 10:06 AM Flag

    Rah: "count the trillions of dollars we spend on other things as "unfunded""

    Yes, we could do that. That's the choice we need to make. Do we stop paying trillions for a war on the other side of the globe, or de we stop spending trillions in things here. We could shut down air traffic control from midnight to 8 AM; we could stop spending anything to maintain the roads we drive on (even though we add 3 million new drivers each and every year); We could stop paying for unemployment support (and let laid off workers take it out on the employers who laid them off with all their guns.). It's clear what you'd rather spend your tax dollars on!

    And that's an interesting possibility. What happens when employers let employees bring guns to work - and into the room where they are told they will lose their job? Should be a fun place to work.

    Sentiment: Hold

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