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Bob Evans Farms, Inc. Message Board

whbuncensored 352 posts  |  Last Activity: 50 minutes ago Member since: Feb 15, 2009
  • Reply to

    Investors liberation movement sounds like a

    by larryblake808 Jan 24, 2015 4:17 AM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 24, 2015 9:04 AM Flag

    Why should I spend my time if FCX doesn't rescind its divident?
    I'm not being paid and have no interest in FCX as an investment.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 24, 2015 8:59 AM Flag

    Why should a dividend by "restored" by FCX "as soon as" its commodity prices rise?
    Isn't the priority to learn from past mistakes and pay down debt first.
    Suppose oil and copper prices don't "retrace" but continue to decline. What then?

    You don't "sound like" you have any understanding of what's in the best interests
    of shareholders, creditors, and employees. Do you work for mutual funds?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Fraudulent Conveyance is

    by whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 11:10 PM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 24, 2015 8:45 AM Flag

    I have no position in FCX and haven't studied it yet.
    At a glance, it's obvious that FCX has excessive debt (especially for a commodity cyclical)
    and shouldn't have been paying dividends in violation of the Dividend Doctrine of
    Investors Liberation Movement. My motive here is strictly educational.

    It "sounds like" you're long or paid by longs to impugn my motives
    so they can foolishly still receive their dividends. Desperate bloodsuckers!

    At this point, I'd use the word "misfeasance" to describe Management's
    financing decisions. The Chief Financial Officer has clearly been too cozy
    with the financial advisor, unfortunately common in most public companies.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Investors liberation movement sounds like a

    by larryblake808 Jan 24, 2015 4:17 AM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 24, 2015 8:20 AM Flag

    I have no position in FCX.
    My motive as Acting Chair is to show how dividents harm investors.
    If FCX Directors do the ethical thing by rescinding their imprudent divident,
    I might then offer suggestions on how to quickly deleverage FCX.
    I haven't done a thorough study of FCX yet.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Under water

    by pilingon007 Jan 23, 2015 8:55 PM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 24, 2015 3:09 AM Flag

    Leveraging commodity cyclicals is a well known financial pitfall.
    The individual investment-bankers responsible should clearly
    be held accountable here.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 24, 2015 2:51 AM Flag

    Logically, eliminating a divident should cause a stock's price to increase
    if it's not seen as an admission of great financial distress.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • whbuncensored by whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 11:10 PM Flag

    a transfer of property that is made to swindle, hinder, or delay a creditor,
    or to put such property beyond the creditor's reach. (legal dictionary)

    When an unprofitable company with debts pays a dividend, its directors
    are transferring money to shareholders that the company didn't earn
    leaving creditors with less security. Furthermore, such an act is
    criminal fraud if the intent is to falsely reassure investors about the
    company's business. If Directors now know that business has suddenly
    deteriorated to the extent that FCX isn't currently earning its dividend payout,
    they're legally bound to retain that money! To shareholders who might complain
    about caprice or perfidy, the Directors have an ironclad defense in force majeure.
    The Directors have no defense if they wittingly permit a fraudulent conveyance.

    Sentiment: Sell

  • Reply to

    OT: "Solar Wars"

    by investors_liberation_movement Jan 22, 2015 10:43 PM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 6:20 PM Flag

    Past performance is not a guarantee of future success.
    I gather you either didn't read the article or didn't have an intelligent Reply to post.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 5:54 PM Flag

    CBEH should promptly sell or close its presumably unprofitable biodiesel unit
    if it hasn't already done so on the good advice of its advisor. Without an accurate,
    current financial report, an outsider cannot offer an intelligent opinion on the
    Topic question. The evil arrogance of the Manipulators in depriving outside
    CBEH-holders of such important information should be intolerable to them.
    The AGM is likely a mere formality to enable CBEH to qualify for listing in China.
    Unless holders have firm assurance that such a listing will occur forthwith,
    I recommend they vote their proxies AGAINST even though theirs might not be
    properly counted.

  • whbuncensored by whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 10:56 AM Flag

    Apg Asset Management Us 5,154,356 (7.16%) at Sep 30, 2014
    FMR 3,440,288 (4.78)
    BlackRock Fund Advisors 3,109,955 (4.32)
    BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A. 3,016,840 (4.19)
    Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft 2,496,727 (3.47)
    State Street Corporation 2,006,588 (2.79)
    Westwood Holdings Group 1,962,300 (2.73)
    Bank of New York Mellon Corporation 1,731,954 (2.41)
    Vanguard Group 9,660,721 (13.42)
    LaSalle Investment Management Securities 1,375,519 (1.91)

    Sentiment: Sell

  • whbuncensored by whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 10:48 AM Flag

    its taxable income when only 90% is required?

    Sentiment: Sell

  • whbuncensored by whbuncensored Jan 23, 2015 10:01 AM Flag

    a transfer of property that is made to swindle, hinder, or delay a creditor,
    or to put such property beyond the creditor's reach. (legal dictionary)

    When companies systematically pay out more than they earn,
    they're also potentially harming their creditors by leaving them with less security
    for their loans in the event something goes wrong.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • whbuncensored by whbuncensored Jan 22, 2015 10:04 PM Flag

    Must read article in Scientific American, November 2014, pp. 67-71 by David Biello.
    The gist is that rooftop solar power is a growing trend, particularly in sunny locales,
    big enough to threaten electric utilities.
    The implication for investors is that such stocks should be SOLD!

    Sentiment: Sell

  • Reply to

    Fraudulent Conveyance is

    by whbuncensored Jan 21, 2015 12:15 PM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 22, 2015 8:55 PM Flag

    Perhaps you don't understand that REIT's aren't required to pay out more than 90%
    of taxable income. CBL has been paying out much more than it earns which ipso facto
    is a fraudulent conveyance. Holders are receiving excessive INCOME that #$%$
    fundamental CAPITAL APPRECIATION for CBL. I don't know what CBL loan-covenants
    are, but it's obvious that they must be rather lax as lenders compete in a low-interest rate
    situation. REITs are unattractive to savvy investors as a result of being controlled by
    Financial Vampires on Wall Street. Your reply is disingenuously dishonest and paid for
    by bloodsuckers to justify their rapacity.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Investors Liberation Movement

    by amblin0999 Jan 20, 2015 12:17 PM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 22, 2015 2:30 PM Flag

    Why didn't anyone answer is the question.
    The obvious answer is that all of those names are financial professionals or their clients.

  • Reply to

    Royce & Associates,

    by whbuncensored Jan 19, 2015 11:52 AM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 21, 2015 11:18 PM Flag

    I web-searched "Horowitz & Associates" but couldn't find a money-manager.
    Health & Life Insurance broker?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Royce & Associates,

    by whbuncensored Jan 19, 2015 11:52 AM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 21, 2015 11:10 PM Flag

    My sentiment rating is mine. My informative posts are intended to show that all of
    these institutional shareholders are incompetent to manage Other People's Money
    despite having impressive investment experience and college degrees.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Book Value Over $8.00 a Share

    by abespec Jan 10, 2015 6:56 AM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 21, 2015 9:32 PM Flag

    Why should "most investors hand their money over to Fidelity"?
    I like the fact that TEU ceased paying dividents in 2013.
    Perhaps they've learned their lesson and will follow the
    Dividend Doctrine of Investors Liberation Movement!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Fraudulent Conveyance is

    by investors_liberation_movement Jan 18, 2015 3:34 PM
    whbuncensored whbuncensored Jan 21, 2015 9:03 PM Flag

    Your obnoxious post doesn't make NAT less guilty.
    I have no position in NAT. Too bad you're long!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • whbuncensored by whbuncensored Jan 21, 2015 8:55 PM Flag

    Must read article in Scientific American, November 2014, pp. 67-71 by David Biello.
    The gist is that rooftop solar power is a growing trend, particularly in sunny locales,
    big enough to threaten electric utilities.
    The implication for investors is that such stocks should be SOLD!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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