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willie7 92 posts  |  Last Activity: Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM Member since: May 11, 2011
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    Nobody wants what they're selling.

    by ospreysailors Sep 23, 2014 2:08 PM
    willie7 willie7 Sep 23, 2014 6:53 PM Flag

    Osprey and Terp I was just addressing Ospreys post. See how simple my response was. Nothing about tech or legal #$%$ or the $10 million that Avaya paid or the stock pps being at $5 or if we know who of those that paid are using vhc technology. etc. These are all other issues. As far as the CAFC verdict and using some of your words, maybe only a moron would miss a few facts like the patents were not invalidated and Apple was still found to infringe, we just dont know what the bill is going to be for stealing someone else's inventions. I also dont know where all this will lead. $2 pps or less or $50 pps or more. I have given up trying to figure a fair value. VHC is a gamble for sure but for sure it aint over yet. For me I will just put my shares away and keep them hedged with some insurance and just forget about my long dated leap calls for another 1 1/2 years. If vhc isnt soup by then well I will chalk it off to a very bad investment . There already is blood in the streets .Look at both sides of the coins boys.

  • Reply to

    Nobody wants what they're selling.

    by ospreysailors Sep 23, 2014 2:08 PM
    willie7 willie7 Sep 23, 2014 3:08 PM Flag

    Avaya, Mitel, Siemans ,AAstra and Msft wanted it ,even paid for it. Apple and Cisco want it but they just steal it for awhile longer.

  • In the past 6 trading days we have traded 55 million shares. Enough for whatever shorts wanted out could have gotten out. People have been looking for a massive short squeeze for 4 years. Not sure what the short interest is right now but dont hang your investment hat on a big short squeeze. JMO though

  • Reply to

    In layman's terms

    by ospreysailors Sep 22, 2014 2:49 PM
    willie7 willie7 Sep 22, 2014 8:12 PM Flag

    My response is An Island vacation sounds really good right about now. Gave me a laugh . Think I will just leave it at that for now since thats the best vision I have had in a few weeks.

  • Reply to

    In layman's terms

    by ospreysailors Sep 22, 2014 2:49 PM
    willie7 willie7 Sep 22, 2014 3:19 PM Flag

    Now Osprey, you know your post has to be challenged.You are stating opinions as if they were fact. The only fact in your post is that there will be more legal maneuverings. Time measured in years,no buyouts no partnerships, no reason to own shares,more bad news etc., all subjective. Some of your opinions may or may not come to pass only time will tell. The shorts have won this last round for sure. KL has not done what he said he would do, per the ASM's. What do investors do from here. Only the individual can decide. Actually VHC has not been an investment but a trip to the Vegas tables. Everyone still in VHC should decide what their new goals should be and how much money they can afford to lose or gamble with. I think most of us have been to "heavy" in vhc. Thanks though for you civil posts that lead to discussions.

  • Kendall can re purchasing over 3 million shares by exercising available options.

  • For anyone not familiar....First you have to have a margin account and almost anyone can open one. Buying on Margin is when a shareholder has borrowed in his account in order to buy more shares then he has cash for. You have $1000 in your account but you want to buy say $1500 worth of shares, your broker lends you the extra $500. The broker says your account needs to maintain say $750 and if your shares decline below that $750 you either need to add more cash or the broker will automatically sell your shares. Its just a loan using your shares as collateral. nothing rocket science here. In the case of our CEO he borrowed money using 1.7 million shares as collateral and with the drop to $5 he received a margin call and the broker automatically sold his shares.Its a forced sale. That left KL with over 7.4 million shares.This is just a nutshell view and stocks vary as to the amount of maintenance needed to avoid margin calls.

  • willie7 willie7 Sep 21, 2014 10:05 AM Flag

    Dueling ,not sure how long you have been involved in vhc but I have been here for almost 4 years.V HC is one of the most manipulated stocks I have ever seen in my many years of being in the stock market. All this manipulation has been reported to the SEC by many of us but to no avail. Options being used by the MM's to create naked shorting and numerous other games have all been documented again to no avail. Its a crooked game that the shorts keep winning. If you have the time take a look at many of the old posts,mine included and you will see much mention. You can also snoop over on IV with both old and new posts to see discussions of the manipulation that has and is going on. Just the way it is. Not sure of the put trade you are speaking of but if it was back on Tues it may have nothing to do with the KL sale and just someone trying to protect a position.

  • willie7 willie7 Sep 20, 2014 9:14 PM Flag

    Those #'s are calculated using Average Daily Volume which at the time was less then 1 million shares per day.In the past 4 days vhc has traded 50 million shares.If the shorts wanted out there were plenty of willing sellers throwing in the towel or getting margin calls.. Not saying the shorts all covered but they could have if they wanted to. Then they would have ammunition to start all over again say at $12 or $15 pps. There seems to be some kind of vendetta going on here,probably Apple induced IMO

  • willie7 willie7 Sep 20, 2014 9:08 PM Flag

    Agree but the shorts will try and use it anyway. Thanks

  • willie7 willie7 Sep 20, 2014 4:59 PM Flag

    Jagan the point wasnt the quantity of shares it was the fact that over the past 5 years with all the hits vhc has taken the longs could say that the CEO, who had apprx 8 million shares, hadnt sold a single share. Technically the longs can still say that the CEO hasnt sold a share but you have to add "willingly " It was a margin call.or forced sale. I believe thats where drhgolfer was going.

  • willie7 willie7 Sep 20, 2014 10:04 AM Flag

    drhgolfer you are correct ,Forced sale margin call.

    inowhoyour good point but I am sure the shorts will find something new to hang their slander hat onto. The reverse conversions continue. The hit pieces continue. A licensing deal is VHC's only option at this point otherwise a long waiting game will continue. JMO

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