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wngr123 64 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 24, 2014 4:27 PM Member since: Oct 24, 2008
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  • For those of you paying attention, there was yet another victim inside GM from the Valukas report yesterday.

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    Another Victim Inside GM

    by wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 10:15 AM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 11:01 AM Flag

    Do you know who I am talking about and why I called him a victim?

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    Another Victim Inside GM

    by wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 10:15 AM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 7:21 PM Flag

    "daily rate is $3,300. let me know when you want to start. i'll see if i'm available..."

    I didn't think you wanted to get into that discussion. Suspicion confirmed.

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    Unanswered Wngr comments to Cobra

    by wngr123 Jun 25, 2014 3:39 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 27, 2014 10:19 PM Flag

    "But just reading your post goes to show how insecure you really are, and that your business could not survive without using unethical methods."

    Based on recent developments with Cobra, I don't think that we should get too carried away thinking that he is a business owner. In fact, he may be something entirely different and has been lying/fantasizing all this time. He may be in the IT business, but I don't think it is as an owner.

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    Unanswered Wngr comments to Cobra

    by wngr123 Jun 25, 2014 3:39 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 27, 2014 12:38 PM Flag

    "In a perfect world, this would have never happened. That being said, GM is to blame. People were at fault. People got fired."

    This was NEVER in dispute.

    "I understand you do not own a company, therefore have the luxury of not having to worry about stuff like this."

    Listen meat head, I'm pretty sure I ran an organization at least 50X bigger than your "rent-a-coder" business, if in fact you are who you say you are and that is by no stretch accepted, at least by me. So please don't try to peddle this condescending 'you would never understand' BS here. And count on this...whenever you exercise this habit of making glorious, unsubstantiated proclamations regarding what we commoners will never understand like we should fall down at your knees enthralled with your knowledge, I will call you on it and expose your lack of basis.

    Furthermore, if you try to ignore my request for additional information, I warn you now that I am not easily deterred.

  • Five, count'em, five full pages of ignored posters before I got to one that wasn't ignored. AND THESE PEOPLE VOTE!!!

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    35's tomorrow morning before a rebound

    by thetadecay Jun 30, 2014 3:23 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jul 1, 2014 12:19 PM Flag

    "If my 34 yrs in the market mean anything, I'm guessing you are exactly right. Many won't know about this until they drive home and hear it on the news. This will not be the end of the selling unless we see a deep V-bottom before today's close."

    Oops.

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    UGLY GM SILVERADOS EVERYWHERE SUDDENLY

    by robert_dinero_here Jun 28, 2014 9:22 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 28, 2014 9:58 PM Flag

    "I'm seeing a bunch of them all of a sudden."

    It's about time that CA caught up with the bellwether state of MI.

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    Unanswered Wngr comments to Cobra

    by wngr123 Jun 25, 2014 3:39 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 27, 2014 10:22 PM Flag

    "I have run 'large' departments of major companies."

    Really? Are you sure?

  • Reply to

    I saw Mary Barra on C-SPAN

    by questinator Jun 24, 2014 8:39 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 9:01 PM Flag

    Questinator:

    I agree with everything you said.

    "I guess they did not follow the Ford Motor Company, nor read the book "American Icon" that explained how Mulally changed the culture at Ford."

    Members of congress...read a book??

    "Ford seems to be doing quite well."

    Yes they do.

    "Congress think they know how to tell a company how to run it's business, even against they methods that have proven to be successful."

    Most of the members of congress are hypocrites. They presume to sit in judgement of people (not just auto people) when they have a 13% approval level and participate in the most dysfunctional organization in the world.

  • Reply to

    qqq2244 one more thing

    by jhawksbolt2003 Jul 18, 2014 12:27 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jul 19, 2014 7:08 PM Flag

    "Its just one or two posters with lots of ID's

    And they're both very active today."

    In my world, they're only an annoyance for about 5 seconds.

  • Message boards are designed to promote conversation. You don't seem to remember the previous day's conversations very well so here's a compilation. Please answer, or indicate that you intend to ignore this comment because you have no good answer.

    Cobra: "Are you telling me he didn't know about this problem until recently?"
    Wngr: "Yes. Why would he? Not his function. Do you understand what GM manufacturing does? Here's a hint, they don't make ignition switches, design ignition switches, or approve ignition switches. They take them out of the shipping containers and put them into steering columns. Period."
    Cobra: ?

    Cobra: "At the end of the day.....your fav company....has lied, and you seem to be having a hard time admitting this."
    Wngr: "Companies don't lie, individuals lie. Who do you believe is lying and why do you claim that? Is it personal opinion or something that has some substance."
    Cobra: ?

    Cobra: "I do have someone in mind, but would rather not say it."
    Wngr: "I doubt it. You're sanctimoniously always telling people they should educate themselves, you should follow your own advice. Read the report so you are able to talk intelligently about this."
    Cobra: ?

    Cobra: "Obviously he failed in this area."
    Wngr: "Apparently you don't understand that manufacturing has launches also, in addition to purchase parts. Listen closely, he was responsible for manufacturing launches. Heard of any GM manufacturing recalls lately? I don't remember any off hand."
    Cobra: ?

    Cobra: "At the end of the day.....your fav company....has lied, and you seem to be having a hard time admitting this."
    Wngr: Companies don't lie, individuals lie. Who do you believe is lying and why do you claim that? Is it personal opinion or something that has some substance."
    Cobra: ?

  • Reply to

    Another Victim Inside GM

    by wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 10:15 AM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 8:45 PM Flag

    "quite the colorful individual you are."

    Thank you. I'm sorry but I can't return the compliment. You're quite dull on several levels. I would appreciate it if you could refrain from making dumb statements about things you know nothing about. Thank you in advance.

  • Reply to

    Another Victim Inside GM

    by wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 10:15 AM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 24, 2014 7:24 PM Flag

    Persie:

    Let me translate this for you:

    "in one company that has been in failure mode for the last 20 years. yah you're right, i not going to bother trying to explain it to you because you would never understand it or be in a position to apply it!!!"

    actually means "I don't have a freaking clue".

    LMAO

  • wngr123 wngr123 Jun 30, 2014 12:45 PM Flag

    "That's the best thing GM has done in a very long time.....kudos to them for finally 'getting it'."

    So Cobra, as a business owner, how do you feel about the Supreme Court ruling. Oh wait! You've exposed yourself. We now know you are nothing close to a IT business owner, that you are merely a IT consultant that's drifted around for several years.

    I won't expose your name on the internet but I will give you two pieces of advice:

    1. Stop spreading the BS about owning your own business.
    2. Erase all the posts that you have accidentally made using your real name immediately.

    Do it or not, it won't take other long to track you down like I did.

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    ((GM,PINK SHEETS IS NEXT!!))))))))))))))

    by bustabords1 Jul 2, 2014 12:56 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jul 2, 2014 2:16 PM Flag

    "..........."KNOWINGLY" and "WILLFULLY""

    OK, my mistake. It was a slow afternoon so I peeked at some of the posts that I normally have on ignore thinking that maybe there was something interesting. I was wrong.

  • Reply to

    I think GM is a Ponzi Scheme

    by bustabords1 Jun 25, 2014 2:59 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 25, 2014 3:55 PM Flag

    "I think that the dealers are selling to each other."

    You might want to think that through a bit more.

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    Unanswered Wngr comments to Cobra

    by wngr123 Jun 25, 2014 3:39 PM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jun 27, 2014 7:27 AM Flag

    "One thing you need to learn. In today's world, people are companies and companies are people. This you can only understand if you are an exec or own a company."

    Oh, I see. I could never hope to understand these deep concepts. I always thought that companies were a group of individuals and the personality and demeanor of the company were the collective intellect, judgement, and strategic ability of those people. And I thought that the reason that companies had "spokesmen" is to articulate the policies and views of the company since it is ludicrous to think that the company can speak for itself. But alas, I haven't had the rich history that you have in leading large organizations.

    But wait!! You said "People lied, GM paid." I think that's what I said too. So now we are full circle, people lie, not companies.

    It's still not clear to me what "lie" you think the company is telling or who is telling the lie, but a lot of things you say are not clear to me (since I am not your intellectual equal you see).

    I'm learning that you have these "feelings" about things. That's good, people should have feelings. I'll just have to keep in mind one of two things when I read about your "feelings"; 1) There is no evidence to support your feelings, or 2) You are unable to articulate any reasonable arguments to support your "feelings".

    Now that I have come to that understanding, I will disregard your incorrect "feeling" that somehow the VP of NA Manufacturing was involved in this issue,

  • wngr123 wngr123 Jul 1, 2014 4:59 PM Flag

    "The fortunate position that GM is in right now, really good revenue and reasonable profit levels, makes it a less difficult pill to swallow."

    They had really good mix in June also. They sold 167,259 trucks vs. 100,202 cars.

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    Cars no one wanted GM down to 4 brands

    by qqq2244 Jul 20, 2014 11:37 AM
    wngr123 wngr123 Jul 20, 2014 6:09 PM Flag

    "P.S. you don't tick us off. We just don't let others forget how stupid you are."

    You know, there's an easy solution, right? Unless you think he's going to someday surprise you and say something worthwhile. I concluded long ago that was never going to happen, so I put him on ignore. Why don't you?

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