One thing we can definitely infer from all this -- the softie shills are seriously bothered by the fact that Android is Linux. It's something they don't want anyone to know or believe. That means it's a serious threat to Microsoft; otherwise they wouldn't bother to deny it. I've been pointing it out incidentally for some time, but only now, apparently, has it sunk in.
This is pretty much the norm. Always has been. The difference is that now we have the technology that enables us to know about it in greater detail.
But of course.
No doubt the softie shills will still be in denial. The fantasy that Android is not Linux is something they are emotionallly incapable of accepting.
LOL the desktop is going away, and Microsoft is obviously losing ground in mobile. Microsoft starting to back Linux-based phones is an obvious desperation move. Probably it's a trial-balloon, a preliminary to something bolder, such as a Linux-based laptop from Microsoft. Whether they try that probably depends on the experience with the Linux-based phone.
"Earlier this week CNET reported (based on information from the @evleaks website), that one of Microsoft's (NASDAQ: MSFT ) forthcoming Lumia phones will run on Google's (NASDAQ: GOOG ) (NASDAQ: GOOGL ) Android OS. If true, the move would be a big shift for the Windows Phone maker, and huge admission that its mobile OS can't keep up."
One small correction: "... forthcoming Lumia phones will run on Google's ... Android OS," should read "...Google's Android OS will run on forthcoming Lumia phones." Probably hopeless to expect that journalists will say these things in ways that make sense.
"Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT ) recently pulled a marketing and sales stunt that surprised everyone. In an attempt to sway devoted Mac users over to Microsoft's new Surface Pro 3 tablet, it's offering a $650 rebate to consumers to trade up to Microsoft's new Surface Pro 3, provided they hand in their MacBook Air in working condition.
"However, Microsoft's work is cut out for it in more ways than one. Not only will taking market share from Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL ) not be easy, but gaining traction in the tablet space will be just as hard. "
Clearly it's not just a "moment"...
Okay, there was ONE way in which Microsoft did not emulate IBM.
Happy now? Sheesh.
BTW have to wonder what you think "stimulate" means.
There was one and only one reason IBM needed to come to Microsoft for a PC O/S -- that IBM was then operating under an antitrust consent decree, according to which IBM was forbidden to bundle its own software with its own hardware. And why Microsoft rather than some more solid company? Because Bill Gates' mother was on IBM's Board of Directors, I understand.
Given that, Microsoft proceeded to emulate IBM to the extent that Microsoft, like IBM, came under severe scrutiny and censure on antitrust grounds by the DOJ.
"In the "BEGINNING" when HD's were less than 1gb in size, that "LARGE" thing was true due to lack of storage space but in todays world with storage virtually unlimited the more O/S the better."
WRONG. THAT is how illiterate beginners think. Any engineer will tell you small and simple is always better.
I've been laughing in my sleeve at Microsoft for nearly a decade and a half for saddling itself with an operating system so huge it's unmaintainable. Everybody else in the industry has been shaking his head, knowing that's the worst thing the company could have done. There's even a well known phrase in the industry for the classic error it exemplifies. It's called the Second System Syndrome. You can look it up in Wikipedia. IBM was the first well known example of the syndrome. Microsoft has emulated IBM in every other way, so it's not surprising they made the same mistake.
"If some primitive code is available free of charge (& freely changeable), why wouldn't Microsoft use it?"
It's not primitive, it's much more advanced than Microsoft's counterpart. How so? Because it's small and simple. It takes sophisticated understanding to realize that that is how an operating system should be. It should NOT be large and complicated like Windows,
"Microsoft is Android's sole owner."
Horsepucky. First, there is no justification for those "royalties". That is pure extortion. Current trend in the legal framework, as examplifies by a recent Supreme Court ruling, will soon destroy the basis of the extortion, if it hasn't already. Second, nobody owns Android, just as nobody owns Linux. Rather, it has thousands of owners. It is owned by the developers who hold the copyrights.
Have to compliment the author for writing this: "The Nokia X2 runs a fork of Android..." instead of saying, ""The Nokia X2 runs on a fork of Android..." as some ignorant journalists would have said.
Critical quote: "Why is Microsoft selling Android phones? Because it has to."
"Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT ) has been struggling to win smartphone market share with its Windows Phone mobile operating system. In the first quarter, while the number of Windows Phones shipped rose by 8.7% year over year, the operating system's global market share sank by half of one percentage point to just 2.7%.
"Microsoft's acquisition of Nokia's mobile phone operation gives the company the ability to pump out hardware, regardless of OEM support for Windows Phone. Microsoft's recent decision to make Windows free for all devices under 9" eliminates any price advantage that Google's (NASDAQ: GOOG ) (NASDAQ: GOOGL ) Android devices might have. But, Microsoft is going further, continuing Nokia's dabbling in Android by releasing a new Android-based phone, the Nokia X2. Why is Microsoft selling Android phones? Because it has to.
"Not your typical Android phone
"While the Windows Phone has made big strides recently, increasing the number of apps available and introducing well-reviewed new features in the Windows Phone 8.1 update, Android's global market share is at near-monopoly status. Microsoft has already determined that it's not going to make money on Windows Phone licenses, so its plan is get people using its myriad of cloud services. Whether that's on Windows Phones or on Android devices, the more Microsoft users the better.
"The Nokia X2 runs a fork of Android, replacing typical Google apps with Microsoft alternatives. For example, instead of Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive is the default cloud storage app; instead of Gmail, Outlook comes standard; instead of the Google Play store, there's Nokia's app store; instead of Google Search, there's Bing. Even the standard user interface is replaced with something that looks an awful lot like a Windows Phone, with faux live tiles to boot."
Yes, indeed, I do pretty much ignore all the pseudo-political posters. It's noise, and I treat as such, mostly.
And, no, I hadn't noticed the dearth of chatter about Google abandoning Android.
Very interesting point about ChromeOS more or less becoming Android.
If only that were true... But everyone here evidently cares a lot about Android ( = Linux). Mostly they are interested in using this message board as a platform from which to attack Android/Linux.
By pretending to be an investor.
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Linux is fighting in the marketplace, and winning. Only need for posting here is to make sure your lies are exposed for what they are. You go away, we go away. Simple advice, but you're too stupid a tool to take it.
Incidentally, it's worth pondering why the softie shills are so hostile to the fact that Android is Linux.
Android is dominant in the mobile market, where Microsoft is a non-contender. That must stick in their craw. The Microsoft PR machine has for so long been committed to denigrating Linux that it's just not possible for them to admit that Linux is a serious threat to Microsoft's future. It has always been clearly recognized as a threat, which is why Microsoft has for so long worked so hard to combat it, but now the threat is coming to fruition, so now they must be really worried. Soiling their underwear, so to speak. The last thing they will ever do, just before they blink out of existence, is to admit publicly that it was Linux that has destroyed them.