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wottowwottow 372 posts  |  Last Activity: Jan 24, 2015 10:43 AM Member since: Jul 2, 2006
  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 29, 2014 4:18 PM Flag

    I understand development of the Hurd kernel, a microkernel by FSF, once a dormant project, has now resumed. It will be interesting to see where that leads. Personally I favor the microkernel as an abstract concept. I don't believe it has to be as complex to get working as has sometimes been suggested.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 29, 2014 4:05 PM Flag

    "My prediction is there will be a complete collapse of the PC/software entities. then a smart, innovative little company will replace the whole system with something that is way cheaper and less intrusive and the PC will fluorish again. The personal computer will once again become personal-computing. and you will get what you paid for."

    You're barking up the right tree, but not quite correct. The problem is much more specific. It lies, not with personal computing nor with software as such, but with Microsoft software and in particular Windows-based PC's.

    The smart, innovative little group already exists and has existed for over two decades. It's called the "free software" or "open source software" community. The "way cheaper and less intrusive" system already exists and already dominates among the cognoscenti; it's called GNU/Linux.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 29, 2014 3:42 PM Flag

    From the beginning the objective was to make Linux POSIX compliant as nearly as practicable. Necessarily all POSIX compliant systems resemble one another, but they are not identical. At first, IIRC, it was modelled after Minix, a microkernel. Later Torvalds concluded that though Minix was interesting as a tutorial exercise, a practical working kernel would have to be a monolithic kernel, more like BSD than like Minix.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 29, 2014 3:32 PM Flag


    There is no question of "exposing" the developers' mailing list. It's public, and has always been public. The message you quoted is dated Feb 1992, nearly 23 years ago, when collaborative Linux development was just getting started. So it's of historical interest only. Evidently the very most basic utilities were being debugged, such as ld (the linker/loader), stdio (standard input/output, a component of every C program) etc. It made sense sometimes to borrow parts of the BSD toolchain as a point of departure in the very early going, to be improved upon once the toolchain was working after a fashion. gcc (the general C compiler) later underwent major changes within the GNU/Linux community, to support not only C but various other languages -- IIRC Objective C, C++ etc.

  • Google it.


    "Antivirus is dead.

    "So sayeth Brian Dye, Symantec's senior vice president for information security, in a weekend interview with The Wall Street Journal. The words sound shocking—Symantec and its Norton antivirus suite have been at the forefront of PC security for years and years. But don't let the stark claim fool you: Norton isn't being retired, and Dye's words merely reflect the new reality in computing protection.

    "While detecting and protecting against malicious software installed on your computer still plays a very vital role, many of the sophisticated attacks of today still manage to penetrate PCs with antivirus programs installed. In fact, Dye told WSJ that he estimates traditional antivirus detects a mere 45 percent of all attacks. That's not good.

    "Making matters more difficult—and driving the point home even further—security provider FireEye says that 82 percent of all malware it detects stays active for a mere hour, and 70 percent of all threats only surface once, as malware authors rapidly change their software to skirt detection from traditional antivirus solutions. "The function signature-based AV serves has become more akin to ghost hunting than threat detection and prevention," the firm says, though it should be noted that FireEye sells active defense IT security services. "

  • Google it.


    "Setting up a new Chromebook is much easier than setting up a PC. Chromebooks don't require major updates or antivirus software. You start simply by signing in with your Google Account (or creating that account, if you don't already have one).

    "All that said, Chromebooks have some unique quirks—such as limited offline capabilities, and a wonky method for connecting a printer. Here's everything you need to know to set up your new Chromebook up the right way—starting with the tools that let you replace the Windows software that just won't work on a Googley laptop."


    Clearly there's more; please go to the article itself for complete information.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 29, 2014 9:41 AM Flag

    No source mentioned, of course...

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 28, 2014 9:21 AM Flag

    There is no question but that Microsoft's tactics were illegal. They were learned primarily from IBM. Both companies were hammered by the DOJ for using such tactics. Each company in turn was rendered incompetent to some degree by the resulting strictures. IBM would never have needed to go outside its own walls for an operating system otherwise. It would never have considered Microsoft except for Bill Gates' mother's seat on IBM's Board of Directors.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 28, 2014 9:07 AM Flag

    Clearly the TradeStation pumper still doesn't know what a computer is...

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 28, 2014 9:02 AM Flag

    Someone (a child computer programmer, as I recall), giving a TED talk, parodied his name as Bustin Jieber. The audience got the joke, but I didn't, because I had never heard of him then. I still have never heard him sing.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 28, 2014 8:42 AM Flag

    Oh, please. It's common knowledge that very nearly all the "zombie" computers are running one or another version of Windows.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 27, 2014 3:25 PM Flag

    LOL You've never told the truth before, and what you just posted doesn't break your perfect record.

  • Google it.


    "Some of the web’s biggest users of open-source gear have thrown their weight behind a project to make open-source “easier.”

    "Facebook, Google and Twitter, cloud collaboration services Dropbox and Box and code site GitHub have joined payment providers Square and Stripe, US retailer’s WalMart Labs and a body called the Khan Academy to announce TODO.

    "An acronym for “talk openly, develop openly”, the goal of TODO is to iron out lingering and persistent problems for big firms using open source.

    "Namely, getting frequent and high-quality quality releases of code for the projects and packages their operations have come to rely on.

    "Also, working with communities and projects, and making contributions to help nudge things along.

    "The TODO site says the group plans to share experiences, develop best practice and work on common tooling.

    "However, TODO warned its primary members can’t do this alone and it has called on others using or sharing open source to join the party.

    "Facebook’s John Pearce said in a separate company blog said the overall goal of TODO is to make open source easier for everyone.

    "“We want to run better, more impactful open source programs in our own companies; we want to make it easier for people to consume the technologies we open source; and we want to help create a roadmap for companies that want to create their own open source programs but aren't sure how to proceed,” Pearce said.

    "More details on how the group plans to work are promised in coming weeks.

    "TODO’s members are huge consumers of open source: languages, the Linux kernel, middleware, databases, tools and other server software.

    "The giants like Facebook, Twitter and Google have been sucking in code in addition to building their own open-source gear....."

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 27, 2014 1:21 PM Flag

    Great article. Confirms my impression of the state of things.

    A slightly different take on what to quote:

    "Ho hum. Another year, another slew of open source announcements that prove the once-maligned development methodology is now so mainstream as to be tedious. Running most of the world’s most powerful supercomputers? Been there, done that. Giving retailers the ability to deliver highly customized paper coupons to consumers based on warehouse inventory nearby? So 2013!

    "And yet in 2014 we had a few events in open source that managed to surprise us, and suggest an even brighter future.
    "The dog that didn’t bark

    "The biggest open source news of 2014 actually isn’t. News, that is. As Red Hat storage executive Neil Levine opines, the “dog that didn't bark” in 2014 was the fact that "no major enterprise platform launched this year that wasn't built with [open source software]".

    "In fact, as Cloudera co-founder Mike Olson declares: “No dominant platform-level software infrastructure has emerged in the last ten years in closed-source, proprietary form.” Even proprietary platforms such as Amazon Web Services are built almost entirely from open source components."


    Twenty years ago, I was just becoming aware of Open Source as a movement. I didn't think it would take this long for it to take over the industry. I didn't reckon with Microsoft's resistance to progress. But in the end, the best product usually wins.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 27, 2014 1:03 PM Flag

    One of many ways Microsoft has acted to stifle innovation in computing. I'd guess Microsoft has set the industry back twenty or so years.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 27, 2014 12:01 PM Flag


  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 27, 2014 10:41 AM Flag

    No. Photoshop is not necessarily better than the free alternative, but is more "popular" because of the "first mover" advantage. I.e. a lot of digital artists/artisans prefer Photoshop merely because it was there first, so that is what they adopted, and they are locked in, reluctant to change, even for something not sufficiently better.

    That is somewhat the situation that exists for many users, as between Windows and Linux.

    Also between Android and Windows Phone. Even if WP were better than Android, which is very doubtful, a lot of people have already chosen Android and will not change.

    But how does Photoshop benefit Open Source? A lot of digital artists who rejected Linux because Photoshop would not run on it can now reconsider.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 27, 2014 9:45 AM Flag

    In the case of Chromebooks, the documentation undoubtedly includes the usual GPL license notice for Linux and all open source software. That is sufficient notice of recipients' obligations under copyright law.

    As for EVERY operating system, the kernel is absolutely essential, just as the foundation is absolutely essential for the construction and continued existence and functioning of a house.

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 26, 2014 5:11 PM Flag

    Learn the difference between market share and installed base, stupid.

    Geez, the shills get stupider every year....

  • wottowwottow wottowwottow Dec 26, 2014 5:09 PM Flag

    Please explain why I don't find Bill Gates' signature in Windows documentation.


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