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xavierducats 4 posts  |  Last Activity: Jan 12, 2015 12:42 PM Member since: Apr 13, 2001
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    Spring dividend????

    by akna_how Jan 10, 2015 8:09 PM
    xavierducats xavierducats Jan 12, 2015 12:42 PM Flag

    What are you pumpers and promoters going to say when REFR reports losses for 4th Q '14, loses money 1st Q "15, and shows a loss for all 2015? Will you then admit that SPD is not catching on? Will you, Lester in particular, just change IDs and begin a new story?
    My guess is that the line will remain as always and forever, "Just wait until next year."

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    Low flying. From the SI board

    by ddegiose Nov 21, 2014 9:38 AM
    xavierducats xavierducats Nov 21, 2014 1:37 PM Flag

    What a joke, "earnings growth". REFR will lose money this year, and will lose money next year.
    Management takes home fat paychecks and have been living off of investors for nearly 30 years as a public company. "Potential" has been touted that entire time, and never delivered. Some of their most important ex-licensees back the Electro Chromic alternative to SPD.

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    Dream on guys

    by xavierducats Nov 10, 2014 8:37 PM
    xavierducats xavierducats Nov 12, 2014 12:24 PM Flag

    I'm sure that is the line promulgated and pushed by Harary. No one could realistically think that an 80 year old technology could not be improved independently of RFI and its licensees. The only argument is at what cost.
    The fact that all other company looking into SPD dropped out many years ago tells us that they didn't see potential sales justifying the expense. So far they have been correct. I continue to agree with the vast majority of corporations who are more than capable of leaving RFI and their licencees in the dust if they cared to.
    What this shows is that all the pumpers and promoters are off by at least an order of magnitude in revenue projections.

    Another factor I pointed out to old time promoter aarrcc- remember him? As REFR patents expire, and licensee patents become the operative barrier to entry, it will be the licencees, not RFI, calling the shots.
    One again, the fact they they are not exercising their leverage shows that it is not worth the effort.

  • xavierducats by xavierducats Nov 10, 2014 8:37 PM Flag

    Dream on like you always have. Some of you may be genuinely snookered, and some are paid for their over abundant optimism. Anyone believing the REFR story in the past would have expected profitability years ago.

    More than three years after Mercedes finally put SPD in an automobile they remain alone. You better figure that all those other automakers that Joe claims to have active SPD programs are just not interested after sitting it out this long.
    REFR's single analyst still thinks REFR will lose money in 2015.
    All meaningful patents have run out, yet not a single other manufacturer shows any sign of SPD development.
    Even most REFR licensees give no hint of activity- those that have not conspicuously dropped out.

    So, keep spinning tales. The general market is not listening.

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