xavierducats • Nov 21, 2014
What a joke, "earnings growth". REFR will lose money this year, and will lose money next year. Management takes home fat paychecks and have been living off of investors for nearly 30 years as a public company. "Potential" has been touted that entire time, and never delivered. Some of their most important ex-licensees back the Electro Chromic alternative to SPD
xavierducats • Jan 12, 2015
What are you pumpers and promoters going to say when REFR reports losses for 4th Q '14, loses money 1st Q "15, and shows a loss for all 2015? Will you then admit that SPD is not catching on? Will you, Lester in particular, just change IDs and begin a new story?
My guess is that the line will remain as always and forever, "Just wait until next year."
refr.class • May 11, 2015
Xavier, no one needs to talk about the latest numbers since we were all expecting them. And second quarter won't be all that exciting either. But come the 3Q results, you and your ilk will be devastated by the S Class flexing its muscles. All this was laid out months ago by Joe Harary.
xavierducats • May 11, 2015 3:05 PM
You were saying this as recently as last June. Success for REFR has always been just around the corner, and always will be.
So, if it in a "slide in" presentation, whatever that is, it is not unannounced. The expectation of the contracts is already built into the stock price. Like I said, it is likely not to happen anyway, given the REFR record of making phantom and meaningless announcements, especially when they are offered as "forward looking".
How would you know that.?
1. Joe has mentioned them, in which case they they could easily be like so many other pre-announcements by Joe that never happen.
2. You are disclosing inside information. (the least likely)
3. You are just making it up. (most likely)
I can't deny that possibility, since all RFI agreements appear to be confidential, at least in some important aspects. Joe did, however, give many broad hints in the intervening years that other auto makers were about to follow MB's lead. That includes the very first conference call after the introduction.
If sales are on an upward trajectory, and profitability is at hand, what is Joe doing flogging the stock again at the Craig-Hallum conference?
Shouldn't he be conferencing with the execs of one of the rumored/alleged/imagined auto makers coming onboard? More than four and a half years it has been since the MB introduction.