One of the few things we agree on. See my comment on welfare reform and forcing them to work if they can't find a job (anyone can otherwise we would not have to import guest workers for farms, resort cities like OCMD, etc.).
I am not libertarian at all. I think libertarians are worse than liberals. They basically are just liberals that don't like to pay taxes. The rest of their beliefs are filled with hypocrisy.
I have a friend who claims he is a libertarian and is a huge supporter of America and border control. True libertarianism would not recognize borders or even a nation state. Their is hypocrisy across the whole ideology.
You should stop debating me Porky over useless stuff and realize I am an ally and share a mutual hatred toward the scourge.
Also, Christians and the scourge are historically hostile towards each other and many still are.
I only registered as a repub when I lived in NC. That was almost five years ago. I didn't re-register until I lived in VA. VA has a blind election so you can't pick a party. When I recently moved to MD, I registered as an independent. I never registered in WA, IL, another short stint in MD, or PA because they were temporary stops.
I'll play along. How do these zionists gain control?
I can tell you how the socialists gain control via zionism. Poverty for the masses, regulatory control from fake religions like Pud's climate change, mass control of the media, mass control of the government and especially the legal system and control of the banks and currencies to name just a few.
I have seen i both ways with immigrant work ethic. You are right though that the motivation is a huge issue. Native born Americans, especially blacks, do not have a strong work ethic at all and would rather take from the government.
I think the primary reason for this is the moral issue I brought up (I didn't mention morale although that's certainly part of it). For the black community, it's probably a result of their social environment and the lack of a father in most instances. For others it's an entitled and pampered attitude that never existed in the past because you either made it on your own or you were poor and likely to die.
Clinton had a Welfare Reform act that required people to work. I don't know what ever happened to i since I was in elementary school and only read about it but I think something to that effect would be good for unemployed. Have them work on farms or in government factories producing cheap goods that otherwise would be imported from China and in return they get a welfare check and we reduce our dependence on immigrants.
Porky, I am an independent. I do not affiliate myself with the GOP. As you know, I am very conservative though. The GOP though is getting fresh blood that represents conservatives like me. There are good Republicans. There are no good democrats though.
I disagree with a lot of issues that the establishment part of the GOP supports such as free trade, immigration (I agree with you that the establishment wing does want it, that's why Cantor is gone) and the corporate cronyism.
70% of Js consider themselves socialists. The problem is RIGHT IN FRONT of you. You recognize the source but for some reason can't recognize the ideology. They have used socialism to manipulate countries and people for millennia. Wake up Porky.
While illegal border crossers are given free welfare, food, shelter, etc., there are homeless AMERICANS suffering and struggling. When resources go to illegals, there are none available to Americans.
7. The country is already heavily populated. That's right folks, ignore all that empty space because no one lives there. Less and less people are living in rural areas and more and more are moving to the cities, including immigrants. If they were going to a cornfield in Kansas, this would be a different story but none of them are.
8. They are damaging to our environment. This one's for you Puddy. Just go to a town or neighborhood inhabited by people from third world countries. They are s***holes and highly polluted.
I can think of more but these are enough. The big ones are the first two. When the economy is in the gutter, as it has been under Barry, xenophobia spikes. That's where we are and that's the reality. In this case, it is justified.
When I say most Americans I mean most people in this country. The only people that seemingly want more immigrants are the progressive commies.
It's actually very simple and all revolves around the economy in various ways. Here's a list of a few reasons:
1. Immigrants (for the sake of this conversation I am lumping both illegal and regular immigrants since most regular immigrants are currently coming from impoverished third world cess pools and have zero skill sets) today are predominately living off the government in some fashion. That means you and me, the tax payer. We are currently giving a significant amount of benefits to these people without taking care of our own. People today brag about "taking advantage" and living off the government.
In the past, when the borders were open to everyone and people were emigrating from Europe, it was considered shameful to live off the government dole. As a result, everyone worked and fought to get by, no matter how difficult it was. A large part of the change in perception is the decline in morals, which as a subset stems from the decline in religion, but that's another topic.
2. Our economy sucks and there are tens of millions of Americans struggling to get a job. One of the reasons wages can stay low/flat in this country is because the labor market has been flooded with cheap labor by immigrants. The unemployment rate is 50% for people without college degrees and over 50% for black millennials. There are also tons of recent college grads that are struggling to find work.
3. Allowing ANYONE to live in your country cheapens the value of citizenship. Notice how a lot of people want to move to Switzerland now that they don't let anyone in. Scarcity creates value.
4. It has diminished our culture and led to class and ethnic conflict.
5. A lot of the immigrants are criminals, drug dealers and other negative members of society.
6. They are rewarded for criminal behavior while regular Americans suffer. (continued)
"Charts: The Clintons’ Well-Oiled Fundraising Machine" from the WSJ on 7/2/14.
On a side note, how are tax recipients like US government agencies and the Univ of Cal able to donate to people like Barry? Also, note how FOX NEWS' parent company donates to HILLARY.
The tea party has changed the GOP quite a bit. The dems have been completely compromised.
I don't like crony capitalism at all and I have said many times to shrink military spending. I am not socialist at all. I am the complete opposite.
The "people" that you speak of will never get together either. I posted a couple weekends ago about the flaws of democracy and you're seeing them play out. You cannot have many different groups with different ideologies and interests in one country. The US is deeply divided politically, ethnically, culturally, economically, religiously, etc.
The most stable, united and successful countries in the world are all of the same race, culture and religion. After that, nothing else really matters including income inequality and politics. Whenever the majority is threatened, they inevitably fight back. Merkel and Putin have realized the mistakes of countries like Brazil and the US. France and others are waking up.
The US can not survive in its current state. You will either have to divide the country into about 10-12 countries or you will see ethnic cleansing. There is no other long term solution.
13 of the top 20 billionaires are democrats. The others are Kochs and Waltons. There are vastly more rich people that are dems than repubs.
Overbought short-term and close on the weekly but undervalued. I would like to see miners consolidate a little before the GDX takes out 28. That gap may still have to get filled too.
Sometimes I wonder why we're not friends Porky. Both you and I understand that the government treats its citizens like complete and utter s***. I guess it's just that we view the solutions different. I believe in hardly any government at all and you believe in full-fledged socialism.
VIX will wake up in a week or so. The age of low VIX is coming to an end. Long term average is 20.1. We haven't even TOUCHED that on a spike in forever.
Don't you libs have anything to add today? The 1% has never been richer than they have been under Barry and income inequality has never been greater. So why do you suddenly support Wall Street and these statistics? Is it because Barry lies to you and tells you he cares about you or do you like the fact that you can smoke weed in two states? What is it?
I agree with Mav here. Americans will just eat more at McDonalds. The value menu is cheaper than buying ground beef or chicken.
Good for him. I hated him for "The Decision" so I'll be a fan of his again for doing the right thing and playing for his home town and fans.
I will die when God tells me it's time. No stem cells for me. The world will probably be full of progressive commies anyway. It will be a dystopian cess pool.