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yes_free_will 14 posts  |  Last Activity: Jun 13, 2014 7:05 PM Member since: Jul 27, 2000
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    big owner selling all the time!

    by ripper5757 Jun 12, 2014 11:43 AM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will Jun 13, 2014 7:05 PM Flag

    Does Amato need the money that bad? I figured the upgrade in NJ was the problem. Apparently not so. They indicate they do not have money for additional acquisitions (which means additional money will have to be raised). Seems like the recently signed contract may help cash flow.

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    GE Healthcare division looking to shockwave tech?

    by rafoter Jun 11, 2014 8:01 AM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will Jun 13, 2014 6:57 PM Flag

    Do you mean after test results are in this Fall?

  • Reply to

    Price Spike

    by bottomsupinvestor Apr 21, 2014 11:50 AM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will Jun 8, 2014 11:04 AM Flag

    Agree with Shifts, broker's consensus on earnings jumped both for this quarter and the following. Something positive is going on with earnings.

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    Lee is Obama’s master spy in China

    by llengonnadie May 26, 2014 1:14 AM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will May 26, 2014 6:36 PM Flag


    I don't know, but there is an easy way to test your theory. If Obama leaks it to the press like he did Afghan station chief and then brush it off... then you will have convinced me.

  • Reply to

    SNWV going to be grand salami....

    by beechtreegiant Apr 23, 2014 6:15 PM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will May 23, 2014 11:41 AM Flag

    So you think we will get this kind of result:

    Wang et al. (2011) investigated the molecular changes of extracorporeal shockwave therapy (ESWT)
    and hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) in chronic diabetic foot ulcers. The cohort study consisted of
    39 patients (44 ulcers) in the ESWT group and 38 patients (40 ulcers) in the HBOT group with similar
    demographic characteristics. The ESWT group received shockwave therapy twice per week for total
    six treatments. The HBOT group received hyperbaric oxygen therapy daily for total 20 treatments.
    Biopsy was performed from the periphery of the ulcer before and after treatment. Significant increases
    in immuno-activity expression were noted after ESWT, whereas the changes after HBOT were
    statistically not significant. The differences of immuno-activity expressions between the two groups
    were comparable before treatment; however, the differences became statistically significant after
    treatment favoring the ESWT group. The authors concluded that ESWT showed significant increases
    in angiogenesis and tissue regeneration over HBOT in diabetic foot ulcers. This study is limited by a
    small study population. No outcomes regarding ulcer healing were reported.
    Moretti et al. (2009) evaluated if ESWT is effective in the management of neuropathic diabetic foot
    ulcers in a randomized, prospective, controlled study. The study included 30 patients affected by
    neuropathic diabetic foot ulcers who were divided into two groups based on different management
    strategies. One group was treated with standard care and shock wave therapy. The other group was
    treated with only standard care. The healing of the ulcers was evaluated over 20 weeks by the rate of
    re-epithelization. After 20 weeks of treatment, 53.33% of the ESWT-treated patients had complete
    wound closure compared with 33.33% of the control patients, and the healing times were 60.8 and 82.2
    days, respectively. The authors concluded that ESWT may be a useful adjunct in the management of
    diabetic foot ulceration. Additional studies with larger patient populations are needed to validate the
    conclusions of this study.

  • Reply to

    Bag holders mostly democrappies

    by hangdownmyasstomdoolie May 18, 2014 12:33 PM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will May 18, 2014 1:18 PM Flag

    Great headline for the day after Election Day this November. You've got Harry Reid and Obama stacking the odds in favor of this coming to pass and working hard on it every day. Hardly seems a fair wager.

  • Reply to

    Why can't WMC hold even a small gain?

    by nickspinner May 1, 2014 1:54 PM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will May 6, 2014 12:14 PM Flag

    There are 11 M illegal aliens in this country 'making it'. Please consult the want adds. People can't make it because they are too lazy to exert themselves and learn a trade or skill well enough that somebody else will pay them to apply at a living wage. Until those jobs disappear from the want adds and I stop hearing about illegal alien success stories, I disagree.

  • Reply to

    Why can't WMC hold even a small gain?

    by nickspinner May 1, 2014 1:54 PM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will May 3, 2014 10:22 PM Flag

    Sure, everyone thought that with Bernanke's curtailment of the Fed buying bonds, that the economy was improving so interest rates would rise. WMC is interest rate sensitive so it went off a cliff. Now people are realizing that while bonds won't be bought any longer, the interest rates will not be rising because the recovery is largely a fraud. 6.3% unemployment because people are leaving the workforce and living at home on food stamps and other part of Obama's dole instead of working/paying taxes. Can't let interest rates go up or we can't pay the interest on the debt. Bottom line: interest rates not going up anytime soon. WMC sell-off was overdone.

  • Reply to

    Ah Ah Ah LLEN

    by piatt1234567 Apr 30, 2014 7:18 PM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will Apr 30, 2014 8:28 PM Flag

    The fact that management left and returned suggests they missed an excellent opportunity to beat feet if they in fact were as dirty as the shorts suggest. Okay, let's scratch or shelve that idea. Moving right along... Management did promise to update all on their 'way forward'. It should be interesting to see if there is any restatement of earnings/revenues. Good things come to those who wait.

  • Reply to

    No Mushroom Cloud at LLEN...

    by mitchpit11 Apr 19, 2014 4:19 PM
    yes_free_will yes_free_will Apr 20, 2014 7:47 PM Flag

    Not sure how big a deal this is, but it is hard to believe they would leave that entourage go to China last week if they had more at this point. I suspect they have more on Lee though. It would be nice to know the scope of the charges and how much clean up has to be done. The SEC should be watching to ensure these guys get their house in order.

  • yes_free_will yes_free_will Apr 18, 2014 7:26 PM Flag

    I believe the issue is where a hypothesis is no longer tenable because the facts no longer support it. Nothing more. If the apple is as rotten as you describe, then it tends to pervade the top levels of the organization. I don't dispute the hypothesis. I just don't see the evidence to back it up. If you have it, please post. Either the SEC has the goods on these guys or it doesn't. If it does, then it doesn't let guys who might be flight risks leave the country. Simple as that.

  • yes_free_will yes_free_will Apr 18, 2014 6:19 PM Flag

    Let's say the rules of the OTC are very loose. Let's further assume that Lee is not alone in at least knowing that improper activities were afoot. It seems reasonable that if this were a massive conspiracy, or if it were still ongoing in a significant way there would be others involved. Now given that the SEC knows more than we know (we hope, but it is not a high confidence assumption), why would they allow two senior company officers go to China this week? Wouldn't they constitute a flight risk? I don't think they need to charge someone to restrict their movement if they are needed as a material witness or are subject to arraignment. That part of your story doesn't seem to hold water. Past that one needs to decide what ownership and value exists in the company. For instance, besides ownership interests being real, are they liquid? Is your hunch that there is no value in the company, or is it more likely that the value has been materially misrepresented in terms of padded revenue and profit figures? So, if this stock traded at a PE of ~1 prior to suspension, then the actual PE might have been closer to 5-10?

  • yes_free_will yes_free_will Apr 18, 2014 2:01 PM Flag


    Basically, you are saying the the fraud charges against the former CEO have some basis in fact, whatever his intent. Because certain documents created back in 2008 and 2009 were not validly rendered, and since those documents were material to LLEN's listing on the NASDAQ in the first place, LLEN didn't have a tenable case to argue to keep its listing and so took the rational step of resigning a listing they could not support with valid documents. Whether there are other and more issues is really immaterial, there has already been sufficient grounds made for their delisting. I'm just trying to focus the argument to what is sufficient.

  • yes_free_will yes_free_will Apr 16, 2014 8:27 PM Flag

    Come on people. The IRS is a politicized organization. CBS and CBS News is in the tank for the Obama regime. Connect the dots here. I'm happy for the information. It confirms this is a highly politicized process tilted to friends, but it also shows PLRs are being issued. You take the good with the bad. I'll register my opinion on the IRS's corruption and politicization in November. I'm happy someone got a PLR out of the IRS.

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