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yonglili2000 108 posts  |  Last Activity: Mar 19, 2014 2:33 PM Member since: Jan 14, 2002
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  • Reply to

    90,000 shares is nothing

    by jelect99 Mar 19, 2014 2:26 PM
    yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 2:33 PM Flag

    that may be just for lawyer fee

  • Reply to

    serious question

    by sisterofafelon Mar 19, 2014 1:49 PM
    yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 2:31 PM Flag

    Don't believe it. 500000 cars will never happen.

  • Reply to

    What is points For KNDI?

    by yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 11:25 AM
    yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 11:54 AM Flag

    Don't you anyone think that KNDI price pump is not a trick yesterday?

  • Reply to

    What is points For KNDI?

    by yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 11:25 AM
    yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 11:37 AM Flag

    Yes, it will stay, but it not allow makers to make big profit. Subsidy change instantly. What share holders can get?

  • yonglili2000 by yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 11:25 AM Flag

    1. EV sold soar last Q: THat was government promotion sell with big subsidy. it won't last and already fade.
    2. Techniques: it just make EV with out date lead battery. If using others battery, it need to buy. No any advantage technology here.
    3. Charge system and station: looks fine, but it need government support and cost a lot. Charge service looks fantastic, wait... I saw that the first KNDI charge service company just run 2 years and bankrupt. why? Cost to much, It just service 65 KNDI owners, Battery last less 2 years, replace cost 6000 RMB. the road service cost a lot too because battery dead on road. So it lost 60 million RMN and close, These KNDI owners just own nude EV without power, If they change into self charge model, just like to buy a new one.

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 9:59 AM Flag

    I just smile and wait to see.
    not too late to flee.

  • If you buy something, You need to really know it!!!

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 9:02 AM Flag

    Did I said this yesterday?

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 1:23 AM Flag

    I can find many article in Chinese about KNDI's EV, most negative comment from car owners and complain.

  • Reply to

    Market cap is only 800 million

    by phil_inarizona Mar 19, 2014 1:04 AM
    yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 19, 2014 1:09 AM Flag

    Once time sell won't last and growth. sell in last Q just once time promotion by government, selling already slow down.

  • Only small part using li battery from other company product as buyers required .
    No any technology innovation except the battery change system.

  • KNDI sold more EV because the government want to test EV in small city first, The local government give big subsidy to buyers between 80-30% of the sell price, first 500 cars got 80% subsidy so sold immediately and then subsidy reduced gradually, it already hard to sell at 30% subsidy. KNDY still use lead-acid battery that can last 2 years, the highest speed is 70 km/h, and it just can run 50-30 km/h in second battery year, so KNDI has no any technology advantage. only advantage is that the charge system built up by government help in the test area ( middle city). it can be expected that expansion is difficult in the future unless completely support at any cost, that is almost impossible.
    It seems that no body know this company and no much interested in it.

  • The following report said that first Kandy battery service company lose all 6000000 RMB investment and stop business, 65 Kandy owner will lose battery change service and their car become garbage.

    我市65个“吃螃蟹”的康迪小电跑车主可能成实验牺牲品
    2014-3-11 15:17

      近年来,“特斯拉概念”席卷全球,国内的新能源汽车市场跟着躁动,“电动车产业”早已成金华的城市名片,众泰、康迪等企业在该行业已深耕多年,金华电动汽车业能打破制约瓶颈像特斯拉一样风生水起吗?近日,金华市区康迪小电跑车主徐其伟拨打本报新闻热线96356反映,负责给他们更换电池的公司将不再为他们提供服务,他们的汽车可能成为一堆废铁了。

      昨天,记者走访发现,负责给金华市区65位“车电分离”康迪小电跑车主服务的全国首家专业电动汽车电池更换服务公司———金华三方新能源汽车服务有限公司(以下简称“三方公司”)因巨额亏损难以为继面临清算。这意味着金华当年首创的“车电分离”模式面临黯淡收场,65个“吃螃蟹”的康迪小电跑车主现在很担心自己成实验的牺牲品。

      65个电动车车主的困惑

      2011年10月12日,徐其伟以裸车价1.1万元以及电池押金6000元的方式购买了一台康迪小电跑,并放弃了直充而选择了“车电分离”模式,之后作为代步车用得一直不错。不久前,徐其伟收到三方公司发来的短信,对方称,与本公司签订更换电池服务合同已到期的用户,本公司将不再续签合同”。

      没有电池,小电跑不就成废铁了吗?金华还有64个车主和徐其伟有同样的遭遇。当初买车的时候,一共有65个车主选择了“车电分离”模式,与三方公司签订了租赁合同,合同为一年一签。昨天上午,记者看到了徐其伟提供的合同,发现合同签订时间是2012年10月11日,到期之后双方就没有再续签。

      另一位车主马强表示,三方公司收取的费用仅仅是上门更换电池后产生的每公里0.35元的费用,两年下来费用也就3500元左右。如果三方公司停止服务,汽车就没有了电源。如果改成自充模式,需要2000多元的额外支出不说,很多车主家里没有充电的条件,如果去充电站充,需要等的时间也吃不消。

      何去何从?采访中,车主们普遍感到很困惑,他们对三方公司到目前为止的服务还是满意的。“公司亏损我们也能理解,作为企业,持续亏损也不是办法,但他们撤了,我们怎么办?”马强说。

      电池更换公司面临清算

      昨天上午,记者到三方公司了解相关情况,公司商务部经理方贤平无奈地对记者诉说了公司为什么会发出那条令业主担忧的短信。“我们也是没有办法,每一次应急服务要亏损135元,每年亏损100多万,前期投入的600万元基本亏光了。”方贤平说,公司即将召开董事会,将尽可能地处理好善后。

      “我们是国内首家专业电动汽车电池更换服务公司,所以开始也做好了亏损的准备,但现在的缺口太大了。”方贤平说,65辆电动车,需要130组电池,以每组7000元算,数额巨大,公司开始的时候购买了65组,后面又更新了40组,但现在大部分电池又要更换了,需要100多万的投入,公司实在是亏不起。

      65个车主怎么办?方贤平说,公司一旦清算,这些电动车只能改自充。“在董事会开前,我们会继续提供服务,如果最后真的要清算,也会寻求各方都能接受的方案,至少车主当时交的电池押金是肯定可以退的。”

      “车电分离”曾备受关注

      三方公司清算预示着金华全国首创的“车电分离”模式将黯淡收场。2011年10月,《金华市区新能源汽车推广应用实施方案》正式颁布实施。为促进新能源汽车进入市民家庭,市政府推出了“车电分离”销售模式:市民购买康迪纯电动汽车可以买裸车不买电池,裸车由政府提供补贴,电池则由运营服务商提供租赁。

      2012年,工信部与环保部联合发布《铅蓄电池行业准入条件》,从当年7月1日起正式实施。当时有关人士认为,我市推广的康迪纯电动汽车采取“车电分离”模式,在铅酸蓄电池回收利用和监

  • Reply to

    KNDI fights the smog? That is a joke!bject

    by yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 4:32 PM
    yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 6:25 PM Flag

    Coal to electricity is only has 30% efficiency, much lower than gas or NG. burn coal produce much more dust than any other energy. Yes, people have to use it because of cheap in price.

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 6:01 PM Flag

    see below:

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 5:54 PM Flag

    Even I can't find Geely in the list.

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 5:49 PM Flag

    I am not investing in EV makers in China, Because they just struggle to survive with government subsidy. You can't expect maker with big profitable, if so, the subsidy will be reduce.

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 5:42 PM Flag

    Yes, There are many EV models, like BYD's car, the most famous EV maker in China. Warren Edward Buffett has big investment on it.

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 5:37 PM Flag

    The government just support it survive and make EV with subsidy, but it will not allow maker with big profit, the subsidy can adjust anytime, So share holders can get nothing.

  • yonglili2000 yonglili2000 Mar 18, 2014 5:32 PM Flag

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