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Euro Finance Ministers Discuss Radical Ideas to Avert Global Crisis

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Finance ministers from the euro zone’s 17 member nations have converged on the European Union headquarters in Brussels today in a desperate bid to save their currency and to protect the global economy from a debt-induced financial crisis.

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The ministers were discussing ideas hitherto unthinkable, now being considered in a moment of utter desperation. Among the previously taboo ideas being mentioned today are: countries ceding fiscal sovereignty to a central authority; some sort of elite group of euro nations that would guarantee one another’s loans but require strong fiscal discipline from anyone seeking membership.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel reiterated her support today for changes to Europe’s current treaties in order to create a fiscal union. “Our priority is to have the whole of the euro zone to be placed on a stronger treaty basis,” Merkel said today in Berlin. “This is what we have devoted all of our efforts to; this is what I’m concentrating on in all of the talks with my counterparts.”

Merkel acknowledged that changing the treaties won’t be an easy task, as not all of the European Union’s 27 member states “are enthusiastic about it.” However, she dismissed reports that said the 17-nation single-currency bloc might go it alone with a swifter treaty between governments.

With the entire global community relying upon Europe’s survival, aggressive action has become a matter of extreme urgency, as euro zone governments have 638 billion euros in past debts coming due in 2012, of which 40% needs to be refinance in the first four months of the year, according to Barclays Capital. Recent debt auctions have seen yields climbing in some of the euro zone’s largest economies, including Italy, where yields shot up Tuesday to above 7%, an unsustainable level on par with rates that forced Greece, Portugal, and Ireland to seek bailouts.

At the top of today’s agenda is finding a means to more fully integrate the euro zone’s disparate nations — ranging from the miniscule Malta to the powerful Germany. French Finance Minister Francois Baroin said on France-Info radio that countries should integrate their budgets more closely and monitor one another’s spending.

“We have to modify euro zone governance,” Baroin said on Tuesday. “We definitely have to move toward more integrated budgetary consolidation, fiscal convergence with our neighbors.” France and Germany will make proposals on how euro-zone countries can monitor one another under such a system, said Baroin.

Another issue of discussion today will likely be the joint-issuance of eurobonds. It is thought that having stronger countries like Germany stand behind the general European debt would lower borrowing rates for at-risk countries like Italy, helping them avoid a debt spiral that leads to national bankruptcy, though it would increase borrowing costs for the countries with the region’s strongest economies.

Germany, which pays a yield of about 2% on its debt, has been fiercely opposed to the eurobond proposal. However, the region’s second-largest economy, France, may propose joint bonds among a subset of euro-zone countries, according to a French official.

Proponents of the joint bonds say the proceeds could be used to help the euro zone’s weaker countries deal with their debt in exchange for strict conditions being imposed on their budgets. However, critics argue that they would further fragment the euro zone into strong and weak countries.

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The world is watching Europe, waiting upon a solution. It’s not just the euro that’s at stake. If the euro fails, so too does the 27-nation European Union. Bank lending would freeze, stock markets would likely crash, and Europe’s economies would follow. Nations in the euro-zone would see their economic output decline, though temporarily, by as much as 50%, according to UBS forecasters. That economic meltdown would then spread to the U.S. and Asia, who would find themselves caught up in the credit freeze while their exports to Europe would collapse.

 

83 comments

  • PatrickR  •  5 months ago
    Here is a radical idea for them. Eliminate your socialist oriented worker programs, get back to capitalism and develop a balanced budget. Actually, that same advice would apply to the United States, as well.
    • Mike0oSS 5 months ago
      My thoughts exactly, how do these folks run their personal finances? On bailouts, and and funny accounting 24/7? I think not.
    • Joel 5 months ago
      but the green economy and cap and trade schemes are going to save the world {?}
  • Douglas  •  5 months ago
    Here's a radical idea for them to consider: Live Within Your Means. Only spend what you bring in. Cut unnecessary spending.

    The welfare state is unsustainable. Economists have been warning Europe and the US for decades of that, and that these countries were spending money they simply did not have. Time to stop the party and sober up.
  • Liberty1776  •  5 months ago
    Yep, new global order. Always thought this build a global ruler /government was the talk of conspirarcy nuts but sure seems like that is what is being pushed by the governments of the west. The Democrats here are complicit and should be voted out next election. Send em packing now or you will be working weekends and late nights to support your lazy greek compatriot.
    • SilverSax 5 months ago
      Nice avatar.
    • otaku 5 months ago
      Now that your starting to wake up to NEW WORLD ORDER- Go look up Agenda 21 and what the Fabian socialist Elite want for the planet. It gets even more scary after you do some real research.
    • Timothy 5 months ago
      I often think about how "conspiracy nuts" from 10 years ago have been proven correct. I wish I could travel back in time and go up to some of the nay-sayers and slap them!
  • aposematic  •  5 months ago
    Here's an intelligent idea, so by definition it would be trumpeted as radical by EUers, stop spending money you don't have... You could start with stop wasting money on fictional science such as AGW and other like insane ideas that do nothing but steal your peoples' wealth and stuffing that wealth into your own pockets! Liars, crooks, and thieves all!
  • DavidV  •  5 months ago
    My friend's a junkie that has maxed out his credit cards to get money to buy drugs. I know! I'll put him as a joint member on my bank account, entwining my assets and creditworthiness with his!

    Umm... that's a big part of how this mess started: Greece (and others) ran up massive debt knowing that others would have to pay for it, since they share the same currency. Or domestically, When Congress backed loans that should never have been made via Fannie and Freddy.

    There will always be entities and people who will spend more than they have, ESPECIALLY when someone else gets in a position to have to cover their debts.
  • Simon R  •  5 months ago
    Hitler is laughing his butt off in Hell right now. Someone is going to accomplish what he tried to do without firing a single shot.
    • roger 5 months ago
      As Peter Sellers said, "Mein Fuher, I cas walk!
  • Nequelquepart  •  5 months ago
    The problem is not the monetary union, the problem is unproductive people, socialist gov'ts and an entitled union mentality population that goes on strike at the drop of a hat. Go burn some more cars and the greedy capiutalists and banks will of course get the message, euroweenies.
    • claude 5 months ago
      The American people could get out of this crap real fast by cutting up the credit cards then stop buying anything. just food and gas. If you want something go to a flea market and get it for $2.00. If the credit loan sharks start bothering you just put that bill on the bottom of the pile. You have the power to bust any bank or company.
      If you want to get rid of the bills start by paying off the small ones totally. You can work up the chain in a hurry. The main thing is that all of this debt is 90% bluff.

      How about a flash mob of people not paying one large bank? Find out when the bank examiners are scheduled to check the books then two weeks before a million people stop paying. You wont have to say a word to them.
  • Frank Ch. Eigler  •  5 months ago
    Wah wah wah wah. STOP SPENDING so much.
  • Jim  •  5 months ago
    It's a debt problem that has brewed for years and won't be solved today or tomorrow. Much pain lies ahead for the EURO!
  • jim  •  5 months ago
    What does compassionate liberalism get you? Here in the US it has grown about half of our population into people unable to manage to run their own households without government assistance in some form.

    Some are employed but many have no skills...for jobs other than picking vegetables or fruit or other unskilled or low skilled tasks. Those tasks that were performed in the past by teens and the uneducated. Now those same tasks are done by illegal immigrants.

    Spare the rod and spoil the child (only rewards for zero accountability or effort)...Europe is on the brink today and our benevolent Democrat and RINO leaders may be surprised when the offspring of their Great Society efforts take to the streets within the next year. When Spring comes the fleabaggers will begin fanning the flames and some of you will be surprised who cheers them on.
  • Rick  •  5 months ago
    There is no solution other than live within your means. What they have is the inevitable result of socialism, they made their bed, now they can sleep in it. The Marxist obama did his best to do the same to our economy, thankfully, we will correct that error in 11 months!
  • lorien1973  •  5 months ago
    The Soviet Union is impressed with how far the Europeans have come along to their line of thinking.
  • Scott B  •  5 months ago
    Here's a non-radical idea; stop spending money you don't have!
  • Jeff  •  5 months ago
    Look at countries like Greece, the U.S., Germany, France and Brittan. Not only do they have a spending problem but, they continue to allow people from turd world countries to come into their countries and milk the system. We can not support the world. Unfortunately, we have too many progressives that feel that it's the responsibility of the West to support the turd world. They see future voters and the rest of see one big #$%$ mess. Oh, so sad.
  • Moving to AZ...legally  •  5 months ago
    "Radical ideas".... I looked in vain for the one truly radical but the only sane notion....tell the nations to suck it up, stop spending more than they make ...THEN discuss with them how to pay back their debts. If I have a son who borrows and borrows then comes to me begging for money to help him ..will I lend him money until I see him change to a small studio, stop eating out, get rid of his BMW in exchange for reasonable wheels? no..

    So why does anyone think it is a good idea to keep bailing out losers?
  • Celador2  •  5 months ago
    Thomas Jefferson warned future generations would give away what they the founders gained and fought for. He saw the trend was to consolidate governmental power away from people. Eurozone nations abolished monarchies, some threw off Communism and fascism earlier. Now they are giving all the new freedom those struggles earned to bankers and technocrats.

    Why the passing of soverign power and decision making? For the dubious privilege of unchecked deficit spending?

    Ah come on. you great Europe-civilizations, say it is not so.....
  • SCOAMF  •  5 months ago
    Here is a radical set of ideas.

    1. Live within your means
    2. Abandon socialism
    3. Take less vacation
    4. Don't ask Uncle Sucker to bail you out, were broke
  • NoZapatero  •  5 months ago
    Smug Europeans laughed at us 3 years ago, who's laughing now... Our government is embracing socialism while Russia, Cuba and China are embracing capitalism... And Europe? Stagnating from their stupid Eurosclerosis which cannot be treated with more socialism. Every 20-40 years the Europeans mess things up for the world BIG TIME and they're up to their stupid ways again.
  • enoughAlready  •  5 months ago
    This was, is and always has been all about consolidation of not only finances but of control/governance. If this is not proof positive that socialism's key tenets do not work I don't know what else you need to be convinced.

    Separating the countries will encourage the people to have pride in their own nationalism(something that is often looked down upon these day). Nationalism without prejudice is what makes great countries. Binding the countries even tighter is nothing more than a doubling down on the socialist premises that have repeatedly failed.

    The socialist dream is over....face that and recover, fight it and suffer further....you will eventually get to the point where you HAVE to face it either way.
  • Paul,Renea  •  5 months ago
    This is what happens when you commit too much to social programs spending and create an unfunded liabiity with no way to continuing to pay for it. Socialism ends when other people's money runs out. The cradle to grave welfare society is unsustainable. The governments are trying to pull the entitlement teats out of people's mouths and they are rioting like self-entitled brats.
 
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