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Greek debt talks to stretch into weekend

Greek debt talks to stretch into weekend, FinMin says 'crucial' issues remain

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ATHENS, Greece (AP) — "Crucial" issues remain to be resolved in Greece's critical negotiations over a second multibillion euro international bailout, and talks would continue into the weekend, the country's Finance Minister said early Saturday.

A long anticipated bond swap deal was now the easier part of the process in securing continued funding for the country, Evangelos Venizelos said after marathon talks with debt inspectors from the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund, known as the troika.

Venizelos said he would speak on Saturday afternoon by teleconference with the other eurozone finance ministers, and that the ministers would meet on Wednesday — a gathering that had originally been expected to be held Monday.

"After 12 hours of continuous and tough negotiations with the troika on the new program, we have solved quite a few issues. But there remain crucial issues which concern the future of the country and the Greek people," Venizelos said.

Greece desperately needs to secure the second bailout and the bond swap deal that seeks to halve its debt load in order to avoid a catastrophic default within weeks.

A major sticking point in the negotiations over Greece's second euro130 billion bailout are disagreements over the troika's demands for private sector wage cuts.

Apart from the new bailout talks, Greece is conducting urgent negotiations with its private creditors, who are being asked to lose half the face value of their Greek government bonds. New talks on the writedown — which would slash Greece's national debt by euro100 billion ($131.6 billion) — will be held in Athens over the weekend.

Venizelos said the negotiations on the bond swap "is now the easier part of the whole procedure."

In a letter to the government Friday, Greek unions and employers said they rejected proposals to slash the minimum wage and further cut annual salaries. Private sector workers have already suffered a 14 percent loss in income due to emergency taxes imposed since the beginning of 2010, the letter said.

The creditors argue that cutting labor costs is essential to making the Greek economy more competitive. The unions and employers' associations counter that the move will only further depress consumer spending and therefore tax revenue.

The government must conclude negotiations on its second rescue package "that will ensure debt sustainability of the country in the long run, and that will bring remedies to a number of serious problems that the Greek economy has had even before this crisis," said Amadeu Altafaj Tardio, spokesman for EU Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn.

"And one of the main problems of the Greek economy as we have said time and again here is the chronic loss of competitiveness over the past decade. ... Therefore all the elements, including elements linked to the labor market, wage formation, are part of these discussions."

Dutch Finance Minister Jan Kees De Jager said he and his colleagues from the other three AAA-rated eurozone countries — Germany, Luxembourg and Finland — "are not satisfied with Greece's progress."

"We want a serious commitment from the Greek government and the opposition. They need to show concrete action as soon as possible," De Jager wrote on his blog after a meeting of finance ministers from the four triple-A countries in Berlin.

"The IMF rightly is demanding a reduction in the minimum wage and a major reduction in the number of civil servants," he said. "We will not agree to the second loan package until Greece has shown it is seriously working at this."

Without the new bailout deal, and the related bond swap to cut its privately-held debt, Greece would go bankrupt in late March, when it faces a euro14.5 billion bond redemption it cannot afford.

The Institute of International Finance, a Washington-based bank association conducting negotiations for the private creditors, said Friday that its senior official Charles Dallara would resume talks in Athens over the weekend.

IIF spokesman Frank Vogl said Jean Lemierre, senior adviser to the chairman of French bank BNP Paribas, will be accompanying Dallara.

Athens has said the writedown deal would see private investors take real losses of more than 70 percent through a 50 per cent cut in the face value of the bonds, along with lower interest rates and a longer repayment period than originally planned. It has also called for the ECB and national central banks to take part in the debt relief agreement, and indicated it was seeking a lower interest rate for the first bailout.

Greece has been surviving since May 2010 on rescue loans from a euro110 billion bailout package from other eurozone countries and the IMF. In return, it has pushed through tough austerity measures, including public sector salary and pension cuts and repeated rounds of tax hikes. Despite the measures, however, the country has failed to meet the targets set out in its bailout agreement, and now needs a combination of the bond deal and a second bailout to prevent a default that could roil the euro currency.

A meeting between Prime Minister Lucas Papademos and the heads of the three parties in his interim coalition government was expected to be held Saturday, according to government officials. The leaders must commit to the new agreements and whatever further austerity measures they entail for the deals to go ahead.

Speaking from Brussels, Tardio said that while negotiations were "extremely complex," he believed an agreement was within reach "in the days to come."

Venizelos stressed the decisions to be taken in the coming days were critical.

"We must save the country, we must now all together, united ... fight this battle. Tomorrow is the day of truth for all the political parties, for the country's political leadership."

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Nicholas Paphitis in Athens and Mike Corder in The Hague contributed.

 

95 comments

  • Boo  •  Charlotte, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
    If kicking the can down the road was an Olympic sport the Europeans would win the GOLD medal.
    • Doug 3 months ago
      You have got to be kidding me, we're Americans we never let anyone beat us... we're gonna win this one. We are the champs of kicking the can down the road. Only we don't have any gold so our medal will have to be fiat of course!
    • Cobey 3 months ago
      LOL
    • Wolfgangjr 3 months ago
      Doug, Nope, they will be made out of white metal, with cheap gold paint.
  • A. M. Deist  •  Mary Esther, Florida  •  3 months ago
    SSDD. This isn't going to end anytime soon.
  • JTM  •  3 months ago
    Two years and counting...this week...next weekend, maybe next month. Whatever.
  • Super  •  3 months ago
    Well, the US medias like to promote the crisis of Greece, but forgot the real crisis in US. If people do not look at the real data, they will be brain washed by the US medias
    The real data :

    The total GDP of EU27 countries at the end of 2010 : $16.16 USD
    The total debt of EU27 at the end of 2010 : $12.93 USD
    The debt to GDP ratio of EU27 at the end of 2010 : 85%
    The deficit to GDP ratio of EU27 at the end of 2010 : 6%

    US has a debt of over $15 Trillion as of today, and the debt to GDP ratio is 110% and debt continues to pile up at the rate of $1.2 Trillion per year of the deficit to GDP ratio is now around
    8.6%

    So, is EU27 in debt crisis or US is in debt crisis ?
    • Tuan 3 months ago
      You are comparing apples to oranges. Why won't you compare Greece's numbers to the U.S. numbers?
    • Krich group 3 months ago
      People are brain washed. And the world is high on something that they are not sharing. Greece is paying out 5 fold of what they collect., and we are not far behind. If I did that in my household, I would be broke, but no worries. I am sure that the world of entitlements would give me a free cell phone, and hand me outs. It will eventually emplode. HOPEFULLY, for the good of all sooner than later.
    • Dan 3 months ago
      As long as you are able to meet your obligations you are not in a debt crisis - Yes?
  • Pandorabelle  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
    Stretching talks...again? What a surprise. Desperate to postpone the inevitable, because the global economy is destined to topple like a chain of dominoes.
  • P  •  3 months ago
    Europe only has 1% bank reserves and they still don't have enough money, that means if you have 10,000 Euro, the bank is only required to have 100 euro on hand! People actually put their money in banks like this! Suckers.
    • kt 3 months ago
      if Greece defaults, the computer that holds the virtual money will jam up and explode
  • srb  •  3 months ago
    "Greek debt talks to stretch into weekend"
    Of what year?
    • kt 3 months ago
      every weekends
  • yahoo user  •  Baltimore, Maryland  •  3 months ago
    Which weekend????? what Month???? What year???? then when is the revision???
  • Super  •  3 months ago
    well, the US medias like to talk down Greece and how bad it is. I am afraid in 3 years US will be as bad as Greece and probably be even worse. So, Greece today is the mirror of US in 2015

    Today, the ratio of Debt to GDP is 140% in Greece, and US is 110%, and the US debt is now increased by 8% per year while GDP grows by only around 2.5%, so the growth of debt is faster than the growth of GDP, in three years, the debt to GDP ratio in US will be greater than 140%
  • Kenneth R  •  Nyack, New York  •  3 months ago
    Here's my headline..."GREECE ON THE VERGE OF BANKRUPTCY".
  • andrew t  •  Fort Lauderdale, Florida  •  3 months ago
    Reminds of the 30 times that Gen Franco died
  • Kenneth R  •  Nyack, New York  •  3 months ago
    Well it's the same old song, with a different beat since you've been gone...
  • Oh Yeah  •  3 months ago
    Greece is the first of many. The debt system has failed and is on it's way out the world over.
    Greece is only the tip of the iceberg.
  • john P  •  3 months ago
    Tell them what they want to hear and dissappoint them onMonday. Typical stock scheme.
  • James  •  3 months ago
    It's a stretch to say it's a stretch.
  • H  •  3 months ago
    Seriously, what's there to really talk about?
  • Cobey  •  3 months ago
    Kicking the can down the road should be an olympic sport in the 2014 olympics, that way Greece can finally win a gold medal in the special olympics. It's going to be very competitive though because U.S might give some competition
  • achmed  •  Panama City, Florida  •  3 months ago
    Greece was conned into joining the European Union like the US was conned into NAFTA. They should drop out, as the US should drop out of NAFTA. Don't listen to the propaganda. It is not a bailout as much as a sellout.
  • L82daparty  •  Crofton, Maryland  •  3 months ago
    Should bankers run the world with money they create from thin air?
  • Super  •  3 months ago
    Well, once the greek debt talk come to any conclusion, people will turn their eyes on US debt , and market will start the down cycle.
 
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