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    Are You Saving Too Much for Retirement?

    Retirement planning almost always starts with one number: A guesstimate of the percentage of pre-retirement income you're expected to need after you retire. That's called the "replacement rate" and is often pegged by industry experts at around 80 percent of a household's earnings.

    For example, a recent paper from the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College titled "How much to save for a secure retirement," relies on that 80 percent figure. "Households with earnings of $50,000 and over needed about 80 percent of pre-retirement earnings to maintain the same level of consumption," writes Alicia Munnell, author of the study.

    She goes on to say that high earners need to save extremely high percentages of their income -- as much as 77 percent for the 45-year-old just starting to save for retirement at age 62 -- to produce that 80 percent.

    The concept underlying Munnell's paper, and a lot of other retirement planning advice, is that you can figure out how much you need to save once you have a number for that 80 percent replacement rate.

    But there's reason to believe that oft-quoted 80 percent figure is wildly on the high side. That, in turn, makes the retirement calculations based upon it also wildly off. And that means if you're trying to save enough money to produce that 80 percent figure, you may be putting away too much, or skimping unnecessarily on the early years of retirement.

    Now, some academics are taking aim at that rule of thumb. "It's a sometimes bizarre measure that could have absolutely nothing to do with your standard of living," said Bonnie-Jeanne MacDonald, an actuary who currently holds two fellowships, one at Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and another with the North American Society of Actuaries.

    In a recent paper underwritten by the actuaries group and co-authored with Kevin Moore from Statistics Canada, the Canadian government's official agency, she reported that traditional replacement rate calculations have so many limitations and fallacies that they shouldn't be counted on by workers trying to plan their retirement savings.

    "For a financial adviser to say you will need 70 percent or 80 percent of your income, and here's how much you have to save, is not very helpful," MacDonald said in a recent interview.

    That has big implications for workers who are now exhorted on a daily basis to save more and more, 'lest they run out of money in retirement. If you really don't need 70 percent or 80 percent of your last paycheck for the rest of your life, you don't have to save enough to produce that figure. And saving too much has its consequences, says MacDonald.

    "It's not coming from nowhere; it means you're making big reductions in your standard of living before retirement to make your standard of living higher after retirement," she explains.

    Here's how to get a better handle on those projections.

    Do your own math. Pre-retirees should try to calculate those discredited rules of thumb and estimate their own retirement needs more specifically. Look at how much you're spending now, and see which costs you think will disappear when you retire, or during your retirement. For example, when will you pay off your mortgage and finish helping your kids pay for college? How much will you save in taxes once you're not working? Add in more for costs, such as health care, that could go up.

    Look at the data. True spending patterns suggest your first years of retirement will be your most expensive. Consider these figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics' consumer expenditure survey for 2010:

    The average household headed by someone age 45 to 54 spends 57,788 a year. Those years are typically the highest-earning, highest-spending years. Average expenditures for the 55-to-64 age group (which presumably includes workers as well as early retirees) are $50,900; 88 percent of the expenditures for the younger group. Heads-of-household aged 65 to 75 spent an average of $41,434 in 2010, or about 72 percent of the amount spent during those early prime-earning years. And households headed by those over 75? They only spent an average of $31,529, or 55 percent of their peak spending.

    That means that even if you do need 80 percent, or more, in your first years of retirement, you will not need that forever. That changes the savings calculus.

    You may be able to front-load your retirement spending. That's most likely what you would do anyway, because people in their first year of retirement often spend extra money on special trips, home repairs and new hobbies.

    Another retirement rule of thumb says you should pull out only 4 percent of retirement savings in your first year if you want your money to last 30 years. So, if you've saved $500,000, you could withdraw $20,000, or $1,667 a month. But, if you're willing to curtail spending down the road, you could start with bigger withdrawals early, says Christopher Van Slyke, a money manager in Austin, Texas. He tells some of his newly retired clients they can start by pulling 5.5 percent or 6 percent out of their portfolios for a few years, as long as they understand that that rate isn't sustainable for three decades.

    Of course, it may not have to be.

     
    • Anon  •  16 days ago
      Dumb article. It doesn't seem to take into account that health care costs for retirees is much higher and all it takes is one heath issue to come up to wipe out your savings.
    • carioca1  •  Monacillo, Puerto Rico  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Call me crazy, but I don't think saving too much for retirement is a big problem in this country.
    • Heath  •  1 month 19 days ago
      I've yet to talk to any retired person that says, "Sure wish I would have saved less for retirement."
    • tom  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Right......the LAST thing you want to do is have TOO MUCH money after you retire!
    • Bill  •  Denver, Colorado  •  1 month 19 days ago
      This is proof the news media will feed us anything
    • Jason B  •  1 month 19 days ago
      This article isn't just stupid, it's deliberately misleading and destructive.
    • Brian  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Wow this article is over a month old. It is also a piece of garbage designed to try and get people to spend more money.
    • MY KITTY  •  1 month 19 days ago
      I'd rather HAVE IT AND NOT NEED IT than NEED IT AND NOT HAVE IT.
    • Kaye  •  Dallas, Texas  •  1 month 19 days ago
      I am retired as is my husband. Believe me, with inflation , and no matter what the govenrment says, we have inflation on food, and many added "fees" to whatever utitlities we use,, you cannot save too much for retirement. You expenses at retirement, will always be MORE than you predict. You still have insurance and even if you have medicare, you still have money deducted from it for your premiums and medical. If you ever "save too much" then you could always be able to help some deserving person down the road. Stupid article.
    • CJE  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Did the government write this? "Don't save, spend! We need you to bail out our irresponsible acts that ran the economy into the ground."
    • m  •  Birmingham, Alabama  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Someone should write an article on writing too many asinine articles.....saving too much for retirement,now thats asinine
    • Lorraine  •  Muskegon, Michigan  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Ummm... I'm spending 57000? That's 27,000 more than I make! Right....
    • Tea Party Man  •  Geneseo, New York  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Funny they don't ask us guys who are retired how much money we spend, I have been retired for 15 years now today I turned 65 years old, I quit my job at 50 years old and have been doing just what I want to for the last 15 years, which is nothing , Me and my wife have not had a boss or a pay check in 15 years and live as good or better then 98% of the people in this country, we spend the same money a year that we made when when we work but not on the same things. The number one thing you have to be careful of is your healthcare cost, that can be a killer. 30000 a year in our case. But with savings and SS we make it just fine and today I now get medicare which will save me over 10000 a year on health insurance, that is like a 10000 dollar raise. You don't need to save 80% of your income because SS kicks in about half of that but you do need a source of income from investments or savings.And the number one thing we have is 0 debt we owe nobody nothing, no mortgage no credit card payments nothing.The older you get the less you need or want, I would say if you want to retire pay off your bills first then save your money .
    • Mike  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  1 month 19 days ago
      And just how are all these 40,000/yr salary (Gross and b4 Insurance deduct, etc) and under people with children supposed to Save anything!!!
    • LTC  •  1 month 19 days ago
      The problem is. If you're saving too much, you might not get put in a home or live on the street as the government would like. If you don't save enough, you might as well go buy yourself a grocery cart and hit the streets because you're not going to get help from the safety nets you paid into all your life.
      Somehow or another this new generation of people feel if you have SS you are spunging off the government. Idiots. My advise. Save as much as you can and hide the money. If you don't they will take it from you. Guaranteed!
    • Big Daddy LionHawk  •  Shallotte, North Carolina  •  1 month 18 days ago
      Retire as early as you can. You can always make more money, but unfortunately you can't ever buy any more TIME. My own formula, which allowed us to go at 55 was: 1)Always put the max you can(20 percent if possible) into 401K/Roth IRA; 2) Never buy new cars, only used luxury that have depreciated; 3) No credit card debt whenever possible; 4) Start saving at your first job, don't wait until you're 40; 5) Avoid expensive vacations until you reach 40; 6) Invest in the market and hold onto good, solid, growth companies; 7) Enjoy your family on vacations, read a lot, and find a hobby that you can do into your old age; 8) Always give something to charity and those less fortunate than yourself to bring other along the journey. 9) And most importantly....Live and enjoy every day like it's your last and be happy!!!!!
    • Sudz  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Because having too MUCH money is always a hassle and a problem??? Better to err on the side of caution, IMHO.
    • American  •  De Pere, Wisconsin  •  1 month 19 days ago
      I am retired blue collar worker and self funded at the age of 50 worked 32 years full time. I invested one third of my income every year and lived within my means. I did all my own investing in solid blue chip stocks if I would taken the advice of a so called financial adviser I would be broke. If you take the time and do the research to invest right and live within your means you will have enough to retire on. I will not blame my actions on someone else take some accountability for your own life.
    • Wayne  •  Indianapolis, Indiana  •  1 month 19 days ago
      no such thing as saving too much
    • Turtle Island  •  1 month 19 days ago
      Oooooo...$57,000? That's $57,000 more than I make a year. More than I have made for the past three years, in fact. *sigh* "If I only had a job" (sang to the tune of the Wizard of Oz song, If I only had a heart)

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