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    For boomers, it's a new era of 'work til you drop'

    Blindsided by changing workplace and economy, Baby Boomers new mantra is 'work til you drop'

    Fantasy Finance

    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- When Paula Symons joined the U.S. workforce in 1972, typewriters in her office clacked nonstop, people answered the telephones and the hot new technology revolutionizing communication was the fax machine.

    Symons, fresh out of college, entered this brave new world thinking she'd do pretty much what her parents' generation did: Work for just one or two companies over about 45 years before bidding farewell to co-workers at a retirement party and heading off into her sunset years with a pension.

    Forty years into that run, the 60-year-old communications specialist for a Wisconsin-based insurance company has worked more than a half-dozen jobs. She's been laid off, downsized and seen the pension disappear with only a few thousand dollars accrued when it was frozen.

    So, five years from the age when people once retired, she laughs when she describes her future plans.

    "I'll probably just work until I drop," she says, a sentiment expressed, with varying degrees of humor, by numerous members of her age group.

    Like 78 million other U.S. Baby Boomers, Symons and her husband had the misfortune of approaching retirement age at a time when stock market crashes diminished their 401(k) nest eggs, companies began eliminating defined benefit pensions in record numbers and previously unimagined technical advances all but eliminated entire job descriptions from travel agent to telephone operator.

    At the same time, companies began moving other jobs overseas, to be filled by people willing to work for far less and still able to connect to the U.S. market in real time.

    "The paradigm has truly shifted. Now when you're looking for a job you're competing in a world where the competition isn't just the guy down the street, but the guy sitting in a cafe in Hong Kong or Mumbai," says Bill Vick, a Dallas-based executive recruiter who started BoomersNextStep.com in an effort to help Baby Boomers who want to stay in the workforce.

    Not only has the paradigm shifted, but as it has the generation whose mantra used to be, "Don't trust anyone over 30," finds itself now being looked on with distrust by younger Generation X managers who question whether boomers have the high-tech skills or even the stamina to do what needs to be done.

    "I always have the feeling that I have to prove my value all the time. That I'm not some old relic who doesn't understand social media or can't learn some new technique," says Symons, who is active on Twitter and Facebook, loves every new time-saving software app that comes down the pike, and laughs at the idea of ever sending another fax.

    "Ahh, that's just so archaic," she says.

    Meanwhile, as companies have downsized, boomers have been hurt to some degree by their own sheer numbers, says Ed Lawler of the University of Southern California's Marshall School of Business.

    The oldest ones, Lawler says, aren't retiring, and more and more the youngest members of the generation ahead of them aren't either. It's no longer uncommon, he says, for people to work until 70.

    "People who would have normally been out of the workforce are still there, taking jobs that would have gone to what we now call the unemployed," he said.

    John Stewart of Springfield, Mo., sees himself becoming part of that new generation that never stops working.

    "No, I don't see myself retiring," says Stewart, who is media director for a large church. "I think I would be bored if I just all of a sudden quit everything and did whatever it is retired people do."

    Then there are the financial considerations. Like many boomers, the 60-year-old acknowledges he didn't put enough aside when he was younger.

    For more than 30 years, Stewart ran his own photography business, doing everything from studio portraits to illustrating annual reports for hospitals and other large corporations to freelancing for national magazines and newspapers.

    As the news media began to struggle, the magazine and newspaper work dried up. As the economy tanked, his large corporate clients began to use cheaper stock photos purchased online rather than hire him to take new ones. Eventually he took his current job, producing videos of pastors' sermons and photos for church publications. He says he is glad to be one boomer to make a late career change and keep working.

    "There were times when the money was really rolling in," he says of his old business. "But somehow retirement wasn't really in the forefront of my thinking then, so saving for it wasn't an automatic thing."

    Steve Wyard, of Los Angeles, says he and his wife have planned carefully for retirement.

    He's worked for 30 years for a company that sells and services commercial washers and dryers, and she's been with a health maintenance organization for even longer. They've invested cautiously, lived in the same house for decades and meticulously paid down the mortgage.

    Plus he's one of the few boomers who figures that, no matter what technology comes along, his job won't go away.

    "Everyone has to do the laundry," he says.

    Still, he and his wife have two sons, 19 and 21, to put through college, and Wyard, 61, sees that pushing back retirement for several years.

    Until then he plans to keep working, which is what every physically able boomer should consider doing, says USC's Lawler.

    Union membership, which has been declining for years, now includes only about 10 percent of all eligible U.S. employees, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Meanwhile, the number of defined benefit retirement funds offered by private enterprise have fallen from about one in three employers in 1990 to about one in five in 2005.

    With unions no longer in a strong position to fight for benefits like pensions, with jobs disappearing or going overseas, and with Gen Xers and even younger Millennial Generation members coveting their jobs, Lawler warns this is no time for boomers to quit and allow the skills they've spent a lifetime building to atrophy.

    "My advice is above all don't retire," he says. "If you like your job at all, hold onto it. Because getting back in in this era is essentially impossible."

     

    93 comments

    • Sharon and Cookie  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  24 days ago
      Next week I celebrate 65 and I've trained my mind to believe it's "new beginnings" all over again. I am re-careering, as is my co-author, as a 65-year old first-time book author of a baby boomer nostalgia book out this summer. It's also our first venture in to-self-publishing and creating our own destiny as we print Once Upon Our Times (Because Life Isn't A Fairy Tale) 65 Years Growing Up Baby Boomer. Yes, we are not alone as working leading-edge baby boomers - many more are becoming entrepreneurs, finally, and doing things our way.
    • Lucy  •  Waterloo, Illinois  •  3 months ago
      They keep moving retirement age up for everyone, but we live in a youth oriented world where they like to get rid of the older worker. What do you do when you are forced to retire because you were laid off no one wants to hire an older person. I have seen lay-offs all through my career when it is the older worker who gets laid off. It most often has nothing to do with them keeping up or their skills; management and co-workers really don't like older workers. We live ibn a youth oriented world.
      • JoanP 3 months ago
        Ever see "Logan's Run"?? The way our society has contempt for older people, killing everyone off at the age of 30 might not seem so far fetched anymore.
    • Dennis Spillman  •  East Bend, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
      I retired at 59,now I'm 62,,,I managed MY own money(I worked in a factory)
    • bill  •  Kansas City, Missouri  •  3 months ago
      let's live off the politician's retirement!
    • bobbyd  •  Middletown, Connecticut  •  3 months ago
      You can all blame the job situation on JackWelch from GE who started all the offshoring in the early 90's. It's cause of his lame ideas that put this country where it is. Until jobs cone back to the US all other generations are screwed.
      • Rick 3 months ago
        Offshoring of jobs started long before the 90s, I remeber people in the 70s complaing about jobs going overseas
      • Amber 3 months ago
        I gave you a thumbs up for your basic premise but Rick is right. This did not start with old Jack. It goes back much further than that. It just kept getting worse and worse as time went on and there seems to be no relief in sight.
      • you don't need to kno ... 3 months ago
        The US will never get back it's manufacturing base which is what this country was founded on...
    • Figl  •  Nashville, Tennessee  •  3 months ago
      Check how much of your income went to Federal , State, and Local taxes. When you do that, check out the retirement of government workers and pensions, of teachers, firefighters and police, politicians. Now ask yourself which you would rather be? Now don't get me wrong, it is not the fault of those people that are, or have, worked for the government. What I am trying to point out is the TRILLIONS of dollars of tax money that has been wasted and poorly spent these past 50 years. Even that was not enough, because we spent an additional 16 TRILLION in borrowed money, and we still have NO money in the so called SS trust fund. Believe me, what we need is a MUCH smaller government that takes and wastes less of your money.
    • SheilaA  •  3 months ago
      I do plan to work to age 70. Folks in my family tend to live a very long time. I don't want to run out of money. (Dad's still working at age 80...but only because he wants to)
      • Bully MooMee 3 months ago
        Is dad a Walmart greeter.
      • Billy-Bob-Bubba 3 months ago
        Sheila I understand your concern as I live in a family that tends to live longer than average ( I have attended 3 75th wedding anniverseries in my family). I am 66 and still working full time, unless some illness stops me I to plan on working to the plus side of 70. I am not worried about the first 20 years of retirement, I am concerned about the second 20 years.
      • Grantwriter 3 months ago
        So vote REPUBLICAN so we can be free of caring for each other in the richest economy in the world!!! hey be free!
    • Yahoo user  •  3 months ago
      Never work for the private sector, alway work for the government.
      • anthonyf 3 months ago
        your a asshold we all work for government were would the money come from government make money they take it #$%$ it not there
      • MoBob 3 months ago
        Another freeloader........
      • Penelope 3 months ago
        Good advice Yahoo User. Just ignore the jealous comments.
    • FranklinS  •  3 months ago
      I retired after 34 years with a company at age 62. In addition to my pension, I also get SS retirement. However, after 5-years of escalating costs of everything, I find myself going back to work, just to make ends meet. Medical costs, housing, utilities, you name it, have gone up. Everything except my income. I wasn't planning on this, but had no choice. Guess I'll work till I drop, too.
      • Dale Bird 3 months ago
        Just cut back on everything and you can get by!
    • guest  •  Newark, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
      I'm 73 now and still working. My house is paid off no car payments or credit cards to deal with. Why you ask am I still working, because I don't want you to get my job.
    • bill  •  Kansas City, Missouri  •  3 months ago
      and you trust what they told you?
      somebody is gettin' educated.
    • AA82ndAbn  •  3 months ago
      The work day used to be 8 hours with the wife at home raising the family. Now, its two careers, one of which is probably 10+ hours while the kids are at daycare. Repubs claim they are the "family" party but vow to destroy one of the things that held the family together, a livable wage provided by a union job.
    • Beads Underfoot  •  3 months ago
      The WWII generation received pensions and health care, for life after they retired. It was a part of their contract, or earnings, with their employer (I do not mean union contracts, although they too were contracts) That generation enjoyed retirement and had enough, not a lot, but enough to retire with social security and medicare, which they "earned" according to the rule of law at that time.
      Many in the boomer generation also "earned" those same things, pensions and various degrees of health care for life, as a part of the compensation "earned" via their agreement with their employer...it is just the way folks were paid then as opposed to increasing their hourly rate and have them pay for it themselves.
      BUT, in this nation of laws, suddenly corporations, companies, union and non-union employees, found that they were betrayed and contract laws in this nation were ignored or were allowed to be ignored. This betrayal of employment contracts, for some, in the boomer generation is/was disastrous! both for the affected and for the economy. All of a sudden, the retiree contract with their former employer can be diminished or ignored completely! How did that ever happen in a nation of laws? Let the old die while I keep the compensation I took from them...Ha, Ha, Ha.
      Now the boomer has to work until they drop as the compensation earned is no longer there for them. That betrayal of an older generation has never happened in this country. We should be so proud!
    • Joe Middleclass  •  Westport, Connecticut  •  3 months ago
      Its your government that orchestrated this but isn't it nice to know that the people you elect are poised to tear apart your social security and medicare but are also busy making sure they have a plan that will keep them and their families in luxury forever. I am voting for Mickey Mouse instead of any rep who doesn't publicly renounce their "I am better than you" benefits. Seriously folks if you continue to vote for these greedy self serving pigs you will get what you deserve. Vote Mickey Mouse, do it and watch how quick these greedy pigs come to try to please you. Santorum likened us to pre French revolution and I am not sure he is very far off.
    • anonymous  •  3 months ago
      I could retire now....BUT I need the additional income " Thanks to Wall Street" I would have liked to have made my OWN DECISION ON RETIRING, but Corporate America has taken that option away from me and many others.
    • soxx  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 months ago
      #$%$
    • DM  •  3 months ago
      my mom is 72 and she works 60-80 hrs a week taking care of people her age or slightly older for min wage. Her pension from my dad's union job of 30 years is a mere $122 a month and her SS is a mere $984 a month. She barely makes over $12k a year if she doesnt work.
    • ET  •  Omaha, Nebraska  •  3 months ago
      When my mortgage holder GMAC financial contacts me from some call center in the Phillipines I let them know right away we have nothing to talk about until those jobs are shipped back to the US.
    • Billy Bob  •  3 months ago
      What the government has done with our pensions is kinda like watering down the soup so the free loaders on the streets can be invited in to share in a bowl of our pension.
    • Robert  •  Guangzhou, China  •  3 months ago
      I'm 53, and I have been laid off 18 times. The first was the decline in the steel industry because of Japanese steel, then was the "peace dividend" when we no linger needed to design weapons, followed by the "right sizing" efficiency movement in the early 90's spearheaded by ... Jack Welch from GE. Like all Baby Boomers, I have no saving, and no retirement. It is a sad situation, but you have to adapt because you have no choice...

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