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Davos elite: Capitalism has widened income gap

Davos business leaders say Western capitalism has widened income gap, new models needed

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DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) -- A four-year economic crisis has left societies battered and widened the gap between the haves and have-nots, financial leaders conceded Wednesday — with one suggesting that Western-style capitalism itself may be endangered.

As Europe struggles with its debt crisis and the global economic outlook remains gloomy at best, there's a sense at the heavily guarded World Economic Forum that free markets are on trial.

Many at the elite economic gathering in the Swiss Alps accept that more must be done to convince critics that Western capitalism has a future and that it can learn from its massive failures.

For David Rubenstein, the co-founder and managing director of asset management firm Carlyle Group, leaders must work fast to overcome the current crisis or else different models of capitalism, such as the form practiced in China, may win the day.

"As a result of this recession, that's lasted longer than anyone predicted and will probably go on for a number more years ... we're going to have a lot of economic disparities," Rubenstein said. "We've got to work through these problems. If we don't do in three or four years ... the game will be over for the type of capitalism that many of us have lived through and thought was the best type."

Some 2,600 of the world's most influential people came for the forum this week amid increasing worries about the global economy and social unrest due to rising income inequalities.

China has reaped the rewards of its transition to a more market economy and is now the world's second-largest economy. Unlike the capitalist systems in the U.S. and Europe, China's market transformation has been heavily guided by a state apparatus that continues to balk at widespread democratic reforms. Latin America, too, has seen success in the development of "state capitalism" in certain industries.

"You combine elements of private enterprise with public responsibility," said Colombia's mining and energy minister, Mauricio Cardenas.

Although Rubenstein's stark appraisal may be an outlier, there was a clear defensive posture among many participants on this opening day of the forum.

There were numerous references to the need to innovate, the need to consult with employees and the realization that power in the world is shifting from the west to the east. While the traditional industrial economies of the United States and Europe have limped through the last few years, often from one crisis to another, many economies in Asia and Latin America have been booming.

But Raghuram Rajan, a professor at the University of Chicago, doubted that the Chinese model was likely to last for too long.

State capitalism, he said, may be good if you're playing "catch-up" but it reaches its "natural limits" once that's been accomplished. Others worried about conflicts of interest as the same government officials run the companies and set industry regulations.

Mark Penn, global CEO of the public relations firm Burson-Marsteller, told The Associated Press that "the whole crisis has raised larger questions about how is capitalism working, how do you redefine fairness in the 21st century?"

Many rejected the suggestion by Sharan Burrow, the general secretary of the International Trade Union Confederation, that capitalism has lost its "moral compass" and needed to be "reset." Business leaders insisted they were learning from the mistakes that dragged the world into its deepest economic recession since the World War II.

Bank of America's CEO Brian Moynihan said bank excesses in the run-up to the credit crunch of 2008 reflected the economies the banks were operating in, so it is important now that policymakers don't overreact.

Moynihan, whose bank had to back down on charging a $5 debit card fee after protests by the Occupy movement and others, said banks have "done a lot" to reduce earlier excesses. He also noted that boom and bust cycles are a part of the Western capitalist structure.

Many outside the confines of the Davos conference center disagree, after years of crisis in which hundreds of millions have lost their jobs even as top executives still reap huge pay packets.

Protesters on Wednesday sent aloft big red weather balloons carrying a huge protest banner reading "Hey WEF, Where are the other 6.9999 billion leaders?"

The activists were from the Occupy WEF movement, a small group camping out in igloos at Davos and following in the footsteps of the Occupy Wall Street movement that spread around the world.

Experts said protests must be expected after the excesses of the last decade.

"When you have a financial sector which is a casino, that's putting at risk taxpayers' money, you have a reaction," said Guillermo Ortiz, a former governor of the Bank of Mexico.

Policymakers around the world have sought to rein in the excesses of the banking sector by introducing new regulations requiring them to keep bigger capital buffers, but that's not done much to appease those voicing their discontent around Davos.

Although some protesters clearly have revolutionary goals like the overthrow of the capitalist system, many just want their aspirations and objectives met by an often-distant political and business elite.

The CEO of accounting giant Deloitte, Joe Echevarria, talked about developing "compassionate capitalism."

"You're going to have to deal with regulation — balancing the need to protect society along with stifling growth," he told AP in an interview. "I think that has to manifest itself through the choices that governments and businesses make."

While the bigwigs debated at Davos, key Greek bondholders were holding closed-door meetings in Paris to discuss how — and whether — to continue talks central to resolving Europe's debt crisis that would forgive 50 percent of Greece's enormous debt.

Later Wednesday, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is expected to speak on Europe's crisis in her keynote speech at the forum. In an interview with six European newspapers, Merkel drove home the need for reform in debt-troubled eurozone nations instead of spending more to beef up the region's bailout fund.

Surveys ahead of the meeting showed pessimism among world CEOs, plunging levels of public trust in business and government leaders and concerns that fragility in the U.S. and European economies could hurt the global economy.

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Frank Jordans, Martin Benedyk and Niko Price contributed to this report.

 

26 comments

  • Iwillcrushjon  •  Seattle, Washington  •  3 months ago
    I bame the boomers. They raised a worthless generation, the millenials. They are totally incapable. That is why they are attracted to socialism. Socialism makes a virtue of mediocrity. And the millenials want to be virtuous!
  • luannesrackissmallerthanm ...  •  Newington, Connecticut  •  3 months ago
    Could someone please call in the coordinates of Davos, Wall Street and DC to the bombers at SAC?
  • JOel  •  Philadelphia, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
    Davods have been talking about this for years. Stop debating and change the way you reward the people who work for you. If not you have assured all of us will lose!
    • sickofitinca 3 months ago
      What method do you propose to 'reward' employees. It was my impression that an employee 'sells' his time to an employer for a agreed upon price for the purpose of doing what the employer required as a condition of employment. Based on success or failure of the employee to perform agreed upon tasks, the employee would be rewarded according to the agreed upon price, and if succeeding beyond expectations, the employee would be rewarded in additional currency or other agreed upon commodities.

      I am anxious to hear your proposal.
    • JOel 3 months ago
      The proposal employers do not reward people for doing above and beyond. Employers at least in the two fields I am familiar with are Social Services and Healthcare. The reward system is the same their is none. Employers routinely cut staff or add responsibilities without compensation. Cutting staff decreases the value of your labor. Increasing skills is added every year.

      There needs to be a system where those who work are part of the profits or part of the loss. The best example I have is investment firms. Their fund mana gers need to have their compensation based on returns for share holders/ Down years could result in decrease or freezes.
  • sickofitinca  •  3 months ago
    True Free Market Capitalism is being dealt a blow by the agenda of the Obama Administration with the "lending" of money to specific industries, such as Solyndra and other, so called, green energy industries. I cannot agree with the government intervention into the private market with taxpayer money in the first place since it is not in the purview of the Constitution to perform this action. Secondly, when the government picks winners and losers, we end up owning private industry and then the government subsidizes those industries further by mandating government purchases of the products that they sell. Such is the case of General Motors and the recent purchases of vehicles from GM. Were other companies offering vehicles that would meet the criteria required for the purchase at a comparable or better price? Probably, but the contract was given based on the ownership of GM stock by the government and the hope that the government would avoid a large black eye when the public finds out that we are eventually going to take a huge hit when the stock is sold.

    The government needs to get out of the business of artificially propping up private business and allow market conditions determine who has a product that will make a profit and continue to be produced. In propping up failing companies, the government actually creates failures of other companies that will not be able to compete against the government company and they will fail even though their idea is better than the government funded company.
  • FoxNuwsRTraitors  •  3 months ago
    In the late 1800s we were as close to True Free Market Capitalism in America as we are ever likely to see - no unions, no Fed, no regulations, low taxes, low government spending, a gold standard, free markets. This is the pure capitalism that Conservatives dream of.

    And what did it lead to?

    An impoverished working class, sweatshops, child labor, environmental destruction, Robber Barons, and multiple Depressions. There were low wages, unsafe working conditions, no paid holidays, no 8-hour days, no paid vacations, no paid health care, no pensions, no Social Security, no Medicare - similar to the third world countries where our jobs are being outsourced today - which practice Trrue Free Market Capitalism..
  • Blank  •  4 months ago
    If they put a word back into the corporate dictionary that was removed over 30 years ago, called "RESPONSIBILITY", then I would agree, but these mega corporations have proven time after time that they will poison your children, the food, water, and air for a quick buck, and push every regulation to the limit, every law to the limit, and destroy anything that gets in their way. Look at BP, look at ALL the major banks who CONTINUE to rip off the taxpayers so they can APPEAR to pay back TARP. Look at Monsanto, look at the arsenic found in children's brands of apple juice... Their scorched Earth policy has caught up with them, and I urge EVERYONE to fight them tooth and nail until responsibility is the number one corporate policy. There is nothing wrong with getting rich in America, so long as you do it responsibly, and continue to be even MORE responsible when you obtain great wealth. If that means tariffs to level the playing field, then so be it. If other countries want to sell their products here, their tariff percentage will be determined by the amount of responsibility they exercise. Not one person could argue that we should pollute more, and lower Americans standard of living more. If you do, YOU are the problem, and one day you will be face to face with someone like me. It won't be a good day for you, because at the rate things are going in this country, there won't be any infrastructure left to protect you, much less people buying your products. That will leave YOU in the same position as everyone else!
    • Save us all 4 months ago
      Problem your not understanding is they are trying are attempting to make it just the bloodlines to walk the earth only by wiping out the current [population and starting all over with just their DNA
    • Slappy 3 months ago
      Capitalism is a WONDERFUL thing. Now before you libs bash me on you I pads I books I macs ect.driving your prius' sipping your lattes, even if they are made on a keurig. waring your " hipster clothes" Oh wait thats all CAPITALISM. the Ugly truth Libs hate is that they cannot survive without CAPITALISM!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!
  • nospin  •  3 months ago
    The problem here is that government is suposed to keep the playing field level in capitalism. Unfortunately, government has got in the business of picking winners and losers. Some of the biggest insider traders are members of congress.
    • sickofitinca 3 months ago
      Your comment is confusing. You state that the government should keep the playing field level and then say that the government should stay out of the private sector. perhaps you are speaking of anti-trust regulations that the government has already put in place back in the early 1900's?

      Anti-insider trading by members of Congress will soon be passed, we will see how much it affects the practice. It is my opinion that some members (the aides of congress persons possibly) will be excluded and the practice will continue.
  • Blank  •  4 months ago
    Ron Paul=
    Freedom Constitution American Dream Small Businesses

    Mitt Romney=
    New World Order George Bush Barack Obama Banker Puppet Fortune 500 Spokesman Police State
  • worst man in the world  •  Cypress, California  •  4 months ago
    while they were communist, the eastern european nations had trouble putting food on their shelves and people had to spend hours in bread lines ewvery day. That's why those nations toppled like a house of cards. That has yet to happen during this recession.

    A better option would be to avoid implementing more state control and instead stop those retarded bailouts of failing companies. Use the money to help the rank and file, not the higher ups.
  • Blank  •  4 months ago
    Western capitalism is NOT free market. A small number of players have control of the system, and can manipulate and control prices, wages, and laws. They are out of control and need to be stopped. If we had REAL free markets, small businesses could be started with a LEVEL playing field with the big boys, and that will not happen until the massive super corporations, corrupt bankers, and lying criminal politicians are all destroyed. Until then, we will all suffer with the tightening grip of a corporate controlled plutocracy until a small board of corporations has enslaved us. Don't believe my? Look as all the mega corporate mergers, and how they control and manipulate pricing now that they have eliminated their competition. They consort with one another to set prices, pay mega lobbyists to convey their interests to crooked politicians in Washington, most of the time even WRITING the laws to prevent free market capitalism from working. Bankers get bailed out on the backs of taxpayers, continue to foreclose without even TRYING to work with homeowners, then get paid by mortgage insurance, all while seeking deficiency judgements from former home owners; all the while, getting $ loaned at zero percent, loaning BACK to the government at 3-5% while saying "We payed BACK our TARP loan." What they DIDN'T tell you is that they paid it back with YOUR tax money, AND got paid INTEREST to DO it!!! I could go on and on... yet fools continue to vote for mega banker Mitt Romney...Pathetic! He will SURELY finish the destruction started by Bush, and conveniently carried on by Obama!
  • Mark  •  Scottsdale, Arizona  •  4 months ago
    Embracing the Chinese method of wealth re-distribution and human rights isn't acceptable to those who've tasted freedom.
  • Notthatguy  •  4 months ago
    Hmm 14 comments....
  • Hal 9000  •  4 months ago
    Bailing out banks and corporations that go bankrupt and being bailed out with taxpayer money is not Capitalism.Pure Capitalism allows banks and corporations to fail that make poor business decisions.It is "Corporate Socialism under Croney Capitalism" that rewards faliure to those that fail the best.Money "lost"..is never lost.. it is merley moved and becomes a asset or profit of another institution/investor..and also becomes a tax write off".Under true Capitalism.When banks fail..under real "Capitalism" there is no bonus or reward for failure.
  • Uncle Sam  •  Gainesville, Florida  •  4 months ago
    To encourage totally unregulated capitalism is like putting college kids on the football field, with a football but no padding, no rule book, and no referees, except that the unregulated capitalism of George W. Bush hurt billions of times as many people throughout the world as could be hurt by unregulated football. Our Great Recession was caused by crippling the system of financial regulations and their enforcement that was developed after the Great Depression, which was America's first gigantic economic wake up call. What cured the Great Depression, like it or not, was massive US government investment of taxpayers' dollars in the private sector in the form of paying our private industries to make tanks, guns, planes, ships, bullets, and uniforms, on a vast scale. Achieving this massive armament was essential to FDR's successful total defeat of both Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire. Even though war spending is the absolutely least efficient way to create jobs, it did the job for America then, greatly benefiting both the corporations and the workers, creating our large middle class, and beginning a 30-year period of unimagined prosperity in which the high levels of government spending continued to go down until Reagan kicked them back up with his massive build up of a vast fleet of newer and more dangerous nuclear weapons. He also spent a fortune aiding the mass murderers known as "Contras" who slaughtered men, women, and children in Central America who dared to live without the brutal tyranny they had previously been under of the dictatorship of Anastasio Somoza. Reagan did a pretty effective job of preventing our free press from telling the American people about his mass slaughter. But he could not avoid facing the reality that his massive depletion of the US Treasury, coupled with deep tax cuts for the rich, made it impossible to go on with raising the tax rates back up higher than before. George W. Bush, way less intelligent than his father, got our USA deeply into debt by fighting two massive wars costing trillions of dollars without raising the money through taxation and giving a $8 billion tax cut to the rich. George Romney won't tell you about this, and Newt Gingrich is too busy planning to invade Cuba and create industry on the moon to have a clue about the American economy.
    • Frank 4 months ago
      Riiiiight. Unregulated, huh? that's why there are about 115 agencies in the US monitoring every single business, harming the ones doing a good job and rewarding the crappy ones who give them kickbacks. What we have seen is NOT real capitalism, it was merely corporatism. Education on this topic would aid people greatly. :)
    • Uncle Sam 3 months ago
      Frank, let me explain. Kickbacks are far more a sin of elected officials (such as members of the House of Representatives who raise money for their campaigns) than the civil servants in the executive branch agencies, who are competitively hired on the basis of training and experience. (Of course, some local big city officials have ofter continued old machine political habits, but those are not the ones hired to enforce federal regulations.) The Securities and Exchange Commission is one such federal agency, created to enforce laws passed by Congress and the detailed regulations created to implement those laws, to prevent monopolies and other corruptions that undermine healthy economic competition. Under G.W. Bush, the S.E.C. officials were told not to strictly enforce the standards, and many S.E.C. positions were kept empty to weaken the agency. Under Carter, Clinton, and Bush, these agencies were busy doing the important work their agencies were created for. Under Reagan and both Bushes (who basically hated the executive branch agencies which they were responsible for operating correctly), the laws and standards were neglected, and rot set in. Obama has worked to make them work right, but has often been blocked by Senate Republicans who refuse to confirm highly qualified candidates who refuse to pledge to follow these Senators' right wing agendas. Under the current Senate rules, it takes 60 percent to pass anything, which requires being confident of being able to overcome a filibuster. Although more than 50 of the 100 members of the Senate are Democrats, opposition by 49 Republican senators has been enough to block passage, over and over. It will required 67% to change any Senate rules. This cannot go on forever. It is not what the framers of the Constitution intended. If 67 of the Senate seats are ever filled by Democrats, I believe the filibuster will be eliminated or severely cut back so that it cannot block legislation that is backed by a majority of senators.
  • kns1864  •  4 months ago
    "Many at the elite economic gathering in the Swiss Alps accept that more must be done to convince critics that Western capitalism has a future and that it can learn from its massive failures."

    One problem with the statement above - Western capitalism didn't create the problem. Socialism and cronyism created the current situation, and if these so-called leaders fail to realize this then there will not be any solutions. This is the tragedy of having NO leaders with the balls to tell the truth and who begin to believe their own lies.
  • Frank  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
    Can you say irony? The world's richest men and women decrying the very system that made them rich? then again, they got rich off of corporatism, not their own hard work. the sad part is the "new models" they advocate will harm the business owners who get into it with their blood, sweat, and tears. Shame....
  • be Happy  •  4 months ago
    Of course capitalism runs circles around socialism. Well, duh. Does that mean we all switch to socialism so we are equally incompetent?
  • LLP  •  4 months ago
    Spoken like truly failed Euro lazy socialist do nothings.... nothing new here.
    Can't wait for them to beg for a bailout from a commie country like China or Russian next.
    Beg, beg do nothing, take a lot of holidays and vacations.
  • jesse  •  Bakersfield, California  •  4 months ago
    Folks, state capitalism simply means more government control and limited democracy. Liberal ideals and excessive freedom like U.S. style are not applicable because human nature is to abuse anything that is "free". Give a man a hand and next time he will ask for the arm. Look at what's happening to USA. Asia has prospered through the practice of the carrot or the stick. Those with strong leaders and strict government implementation of laws progress because of efficient use of resources, and limited freedom allows their nation to focus their citizens on productive and beneficial activities. That was what our nation was before the advent of liberalism.
  • trosman  •  Malvern, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
    Gathering at their chalet resort in the Swiss Alps and arriving via their motorcade and private jets, the elites of the world gather to discuss wealth inequality...Right after a champagne and caviar reception. Do not be fooled, folks. These are cronyist government types and bankers who cannot possibly make it on their own in the world so they put capitalism "on trial" and claim more for themselves. You get a fair shot with capitalism. You get none such shot when you take on government.
 
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