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EU official: Greece needs extra euro15 billion

EU official: Greece needs extra euro15 billion, EU looks for help from eurozone, central banks

BRUSSELS (AP) -- Greece's international debt inspectors have discovered that the debt-ridden country still needs an extra euro15 billion ($20 billion) in help — on top of a promised euro130 billion bailout and a euro100 billion debt relief from private investors, a European official said Thursday.

The European Commission, the executive arm of the European Union, has asked the other 16 countries that also use the euro to help foot the bill for the missing euro15 billion, the official said, indicating that a limit has been reached of what can be achieved by Athens implementing further cuts and private investors taking losses on the bonds they hold in the country.

The gap could be filled either though more help from eurozone governments or by eurozone central banks or state-owned banks like France's Caisse de Depots taking a cut on their Greek bondholdings, the official said. He was speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The new push for Greece's public and government creditors to take a cut on their investments — dubbed the official sector involvement, or OSI — is a new front in the battle to save the country from a potentially devastating default. So far the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund have given billions in bailout loans to the struggling country, but they haven't been asked to take losses.

The official added that a related deal with private creditors to take losses on their holdings has to be announced before the end of the week, adding that experts from national finance ministries will discuss the tentative deal on Friday.

People familiar with the talks on so-called private sector involvement — or PSI — have said that the deal would see investors take losses of more than 70 percent through a 50 per cent cut in the value of the bonds, a lower interest rate of between 3.5 per cent and 4.5 per cent on the bond and more time to pay back the debt.

Analysts estimate that the European Central Bank holds euro50 billion to euro55 billion in Greek bonds. The majority of these bonds were bought at a discount by the ECB, with the idea that the central bank would up give up any profits it may get on these holdings. However, the ECB has so far given no indication that it is willing to do so, with some of its governing board members saying that forgoing profits would clash with the bank's ban on funding national governments.

If eurozone states are unwilling to boost their bailout loans beyond euro130 billion, some relief for Greece could be achieved by further lowering interest rates on these loans.

 

88 comments

  • patrick  •  Dover, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
    Does it ever end? Just how much money do they need, and who has been cooking the books to let these numbers get so out of hand over the past 10 years?
    • Conservative 3 months ago
      the commies
    • c laird478 3 months ago
      Actually the Greeks themselves. They cooked their own books and, when the global recession hit, they got caught at it. Now they're expecting more responsible EU countries like Germany and France to bail them out. Greece is kind of like the AIG of Europe.
    • Michael 3 months ago
      Goldman Sachs helped Greece cook their books. No kidding, this is for real. Look it up.
  • Vmag83  •  3 months ago
    How can a tiny little country need so much money? They must have really been living the good life these last 20 years. Well, now it's time to pay the piper. Not to be a pessimist, but this is coming to us in the medium term if we don't make some serious changes soon.
  • anonymous  •  3 months ago
    Same song, different verse!
  • CommOmen  •  3 months ago
    Are European Union members not AWAKE yet? This country will never recover and it will beg forever .
  • ConcernedCitizen5billion  •  Evansville, Indiana  •  3 months ago
    Let's get this straight. Greece wants to pay back only 50-70% of previous loans, and says" by the way, can you loan us more billions?" Abject insanity. Cut them off and let the chips fall where they may.
  • Bryon  •  Cincinnati, Ohio  •  3 months ago
    How is getting bigger loans "debt relief"?
  • noname4me  •  3 months ago
    It seems that many of the people involved in this mess have problems with simple math and the truth.
  • Daemonicus  •  3 months ago
    Greece is done. Stick a fork in it!
    • Nutti 3 months ago
      And eat it ! :D
    • kt 3 months ago
      then s-h-h-i-i-t it out in the toilet !
  • rocky  •  3 months ago
    Let them fold and get this mess cleaned up
    • Peeple 3 months ago
      Good plan. Any more details on this?
    • Phyla nodiflora 3 months ago
      They don't have their own currency or they'ld have done an "Argentina" years ago.
  • george  •  3 months ago
    DON'T FORGET THAT THE U.S. (US TAXPAYERS) PAYS A HUGE SHARE OF THE IMF BUDGET, SO THAT OUR CITIZENS, WHO PAY OUR TAXES, ARE ALREADY FUNDING THE GREEK SHORTFALLS BECAUSE OF THEIR CITIZENS WHO DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES. LET WASHINGTON KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS!
    • Alan 3 months ago
      US contributes 17.7% to IMF funding.
  • william  •  3 months ago
    Words like "need" and "loan" and "bankrupt" don't mean what they used to. A nation is never bankrupt because its assets are always greater than its debts. Greece is not unable to pay its debts; it is unwilling to pay its debts.
  • stuck in a rut  •  3 months ago
    The BAIT AND SWITCH game is still being played.
    If they overlooked this amount, what else have they overlooked?
    Someone or more than just someone are not doing their jobs very well.
    No one seems to have a real grasp of the degree of debt that Greece has and it continues to grow. Each time it changes it disrupts the previous agreements.

    WOLF!, WOLF!, WOLF???

    Time to let the apron strings go.
  • Bravo Zulu  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  3 months ago
    Does anyone really think these 'bailout loans' will ever be paid back??
  • john b  •  Mt Dora, Florida  •  3 months ago
    why don't they just tax the rich in Greece?...oh thats right, all the rich ones moved to the US
    • Patrick 3 months ago
      You find more Americans in Greece than Greeks born in Greece in the US. It's like that for almost 20 years for all the European countries.
    • blame yourself 3 months ago
      their top 1% left decades ago- this is what happens when you tax the rich too much- they leave and your country turns communis crap.

      Learn.
    • soundsok 3 months ago
      Good-Luck trying to sell Greek Bonds. They only pay 25% of face value.
  • westerner  •  3 months ago
    Yeah, I'm sure Italy, Spain and Portugal are dying to pitch in and help Greece.
  • ChrisL  •  Castlebar, Ireland  •  3 months ago
    Get your soap, everyone's about to take a bath. Tsunami-style!!
  • Larry  •  Capitol Heights, Maryland  •  3 months ago
    As long as the private sector holders of the Greek debt give away a huge amount of principal and the IMF loans a huge amount of it resources, the Greek government will continue to "take all they can get." Why not? Why should the political elite of Greece reduce their standard of living and their retirement and health care benefts. After all, they are the "political elite and wealthy and well-connected." I wonder how much tax payment evasion there is on the part of the top political leadership of the Greek government. I know. Those records are a matter of personal and civil rights privacy. The arrogance of the Greek political leadership is beyond compare.
  • A Yahoo! User  •  3 months ago
    Not one word of where they came up with the $20 Billion figure OR how it would be spent. Not to mention absolutely NO TALK of whether or not it was a "worthwhile" investment. They're throwing money into the abyss.
  • Joe  •  Chaska, Minnesota  •  3 months ago
    trillions in CASH sitting on side lines waiting to be invested. Facebook, Euroland. Gold, silver or Goldilocks econ 2012??
  • Ted  •  Solito, Aruba  •  3 months ago
    Just amazing....Where is the money going to come from?
 
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