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Euro zone ministers reject private bondholders' Greece offer

By Jan Strupczewski and Andreas Rinke

BRUSSELS/BERLIN (Reuters) - Euro zone finance ministers have rejected an offer made by private bondholders to help restructure Greece's debts, euro zone officials said on Monday, sending negotiators back to the drawing board and raising the threat of default.

At a meeting in Brussels to discuss Athens' debt problems, ministers said they could not accept a coupon of four percent on new longer-dated bonds expected to be issued to private bondholders in exchange for their existing Greek holdings.

Banks and other private institutions represented by the Institute of International Finance (IIF) want a 4.0 percent coupon on the new bonds, which will have a face value of half that of the bonds they replace, thereby cutting Athens' debts. Greece says the coupon must be closer to 3.5 percent.

"The ministers have sent the offer back for negotiations," one euro zone official with knowledge of the talks said, indicating that the ministers had effectively come down on the Greek government's side.

"The ministers want a lower coupon than presented in the offer (from the IIF)," the official said.

The disagreement increases the risk that it may prove impossible to strike a voluntary restructuring deal between Greece's creditors and the Greek government - an outcome that would have severe repercussions for financial markets.

The aim of the restructuring is to reduce Greece's debts from around 160 percent of GDP to 120 percent of GDP by 2020, a level EU and IMF officials think will be more manageable for the growth-less Greek economy.

Negotiations over what's called 'private sector involvement' have been going on for nearly seven months without a concrete breakthrough. Failure to reach a deal by March, when Athens must repay 14.5 billion euros of maturing debt, could result in a disorderly default.

As well as assessing Greece's debt restructuring, euro zone ministers discussed efforts to enforce stricter budget rules for EU states via a "fiscal compact," and steps to finalize the structure of a permanent euro zone bailout fund, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), due to start operating in July.

The ESM will have an effective lending capacity of 500 billion euros and replace the European Financial Stability Facility, a temporary fund that has so far been used to bail out Ireland and Portugal and will be used to provide part of a second, 130 billion euro package of aid to Greece.

Germany has insisted that once the ESM is up and running, the combined potential outlay of the EFSF and ESM should not top 500 billion euros.

Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti and IMF chief Christine Lagarde have said the ceiling should be raised, possibly up to 1 trillion euros, so it has more than enough capacity to handle any problems in major economies such as Spain or Italy.

The Financial Times reported Monday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel was ready to see the ceiling of the combined firewall raised to 750 billion euros in exchange for agreement on tighter euro zone budget rules, but the report was immediately denied by her chief spokesman.

"It is not true. There is no such decision," Steffen Seibert told Reuters.

DEBT SUSTAINABILITY

Ahead of the ministers' meeting, French Finance Minister Francois Baroin said the elusive deal to convince the banks and investment funds that own Greek debt to accept deep losses on their holdings appeared to be "taking shape."

But his German counterpart Wolfgang Schaeuble said any deal must help Greece cut its debt mountain to "not much more than 120 percent of GDP" by the end of the decade, something many economists believe will not be achieved by the existing plan.

"The negotiations will be difficult, but we want the second program for Greece to be implemented in March so that the second (bailout) tranche can be released," Schaeuble told a news conference in Paris with Baroin and the heads of the German and French central banks.

"Greece must fulfill its commitments, it is difficult and there is already a lot of delay," Schaeuble said.

Greece and its private creditors are converging on a deal in which private bondholders would take a real loss of 65 to 70 percent on their Greek bonds - giving a nominal reduction of 50 percent - officials close to the negotiations say.

Sources close to the talks told Reuters Monday that the impasse centered on questions of whether the deal would return Greece's debt mountain, currently over 350 billion euros, to levels that European governments believe are sustainable.

"There will likely be an updated debt sustainability analysis that will be discussed at the Eurogroup," a banking source in Athens said, requesting anonymity. "Talks will continue this week. The aim is to have an agreement by late next Monday."

In Brussels, European Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said talks had been "moving well" and expressed confidence a deal could be sealed this week.

LAGARDE DEMANDS

Speaking in Berlin, Lagarde called on European leaders to complement the "fiscal compact" they agreed last month with some form of financial risk-sharing, mentioning euro zone bonds or bills, or a debt redemption fund as possible options.

Merkel told a news conference it was not the time to debate an increase in the euro zone's bailout funds.

"I don't think it is right to do one new thing then do another, let's get the ESM working," Merkel said, reiterating that Germany was prepared to accelerate the flow of capital into the ESM ahead of its planned introduction in mid-2012.

Euro zone leaders agreed in October that the second bailout would total 130 billion euros, if private bondholders forgave half of what Greece owes them in nominal terms.

But Greek economic prospects have deteriorated since then, which means either euro zone governments or investors will have to contribute more than thought.

(Additional reporting by Stephen Brown and Alexandra Hudson in Berlin, Leigh Thomas in Paris, Lefteris Papadimas and Ingrid Melander in Athens; Writing by Noah Barkin and Luke Baker, editing by Mike Peacock/Jeremy Gaunt/Rex Merrifield)

 
  • kt  •  1 month 2 days ago
    after Greece will be Portugal, Belgium, Italy, Spain, there is simply not enough money to save them all, watch out for major major collapse, they can still kick the can for another 2 quarters probably
  • Tom  •  1 month 2 days ago
    How is a "debt restructuring" any different than a default? In both cases, Greece cannot and will not pay their debts.
  • A  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Iceland got it right. Default is the answer, always has been...
    This "voluntary haircut" at the barrel of a gun is garbage! Let the Banking Cartel take their just losses and start over.
  • B2U  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Where's the spending cuts? Nothing has changed. Greece want a low interest rate to pay for their high risk. Default is coming.
  • Sid Nukram  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Letting Greece off the hook creates a moral hazard. Why would Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland etc. ever bother to repay their debts if they know they can hold out for 50% debt forgiveness?

    Let Greece fail. Bondholders, insurance companies, Euro Central Bank, Greeks will all lose. But, they will also learn not to repeat the same mistakes.
  • john s  •  Montgomery, Alabama  •  1 month 2 days ago
    They keep this nonsense up and it will be more than a haircut - think wax job -- without the wax
  • H  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Is there any bank in the US or in the world that's willing to forgive 50% on their loan to you because they really want you to be able to make the payments and not default?
  • J  •  Los Angeles, California  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Greece is a sovereign nation right? They should tell the slimy, filthy, rotten banker pukes to F***the hell off! Then issue their own currency like all REAL nations should.
  • jumpTooFast  •  Denver, Colorado  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Now, if they can just keep negotiating till 2020….
  • Anonymous  •  1 month 2 days ago
    No matter how you slice it, deal or no deal, Greece is defaulting on its debt.

    Spanish central bank predicts big drop in economy
    Spain central bank predicts 1.5 percent fall in Spanish economy and jobs misery to continue
  • Joseph  •  Pennsauken, New Jersey  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Lucas Papademos, Greece's appointed not elected prime minister, ran the Central Bank of Greece at the time of the controversial derivates deals with Goldman Sachs that enabled Greece to hide the size of its debt.
  • stuck in the middle with ...  •  1 month 2 days ago
    This is why we know everything is rigged and we don't guess about it anymore.
  • s404n1tn0cc  •  Irvine, California  •  26 days ago
    I told you...So much for fair and free trade in the EUTrading block. Greek Prime Minister Lucas Papademos has no political capitol. And has enslaved his country men and women,
  • Toad Y  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Another Bailout (Banker Welfare). You Pay they take. What do you get out of it? Screwed over.
  • fixgvt  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  1 month 2 days ago
    The New World Order is playing out right in front of your noses. The banking cartel uses pieces of paper to control all the European states. The Cartel runs Europe's central bank as well as Greece, Italy, and France. When countries like Greece try to put the issue to a vote by their citizens the cartel goes ballistic and puts their own people in charge of the country. Europe is giving up their national sovereignty for pieces of paper from the banking cartel! If you want to kill the real evil in the world default globally and kill the banking cartel.
  • J  •  Los Angeles, California  •  1 month 2 days ago
    The citizens of Greece are not stupid. They surely realize they are being bought and sold like cattle. Why would they allow this? They certainly have it in their power to throw out the parasitic central bank and take control of their own affairs.
  • Art  •  1 month 2 days ago
    Gee whiz, yet another deal with Greece. These talks are as phony as the Greek promises to repay their debt.
  • Africana  •  Athens, Greece  •  1 month 2 days ago
    .My guess is that as soon as the greek goverment has signed over the rest of the country and all we have, the money will be approved!!! The goverment does not own ANYTHING anymore.
  • noname4me  •  1 month 2 days ago
    It seems to me that paying 30 to 35 percent of what is owed is still a default.
  • KPG  •  Princeton, New Jersey  •  1 month 2 days ago
    When you're drowning, how are you in any position to negotiate your rescue??
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