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Eurozone wrangles over Greek bond-swap deal

Eurozone members try to ensure Greece will be able to manage its debts after euro130bln bailout

BRUSSELS (AP) -- As Greece scrambles to implement painful new budget cuts and reforms, the other member countries of the eurozone are trying to ensure Greece will be able to manage its debts after it receives a second massive bailout.

When the currency union's leaders agreed to support Greece with an extra euro130 billion ($170 billion) in rescue loans in October, they set one key target: the country's debt load, currently at more than 160 percent of economic output, would have to fall to around 120 percent by 2020 — the maximum level the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund see as sustainable.

But since October, Greece's dire economic situation has deteriorated even further. Fresh figures showed Tuesday that the country's economy shrank 7 percent in the fourth quarter compared with a year earlier — the steepest drop after four years of recession.

Late last month, Greece's international debt inspectors estimated that even if it gets the euro130 billion bailout and private investors agree to forgive some euro100 billion of its debt, the country would still be some euro15 billion short of the 2020 target. Officials have since declined to give an updated estimate.

The most obvious way to reach the 120 percent goal would be for the European Central Bank, which analysts estimate holds up to euro55 billion face value in Greek bonds, to contribute any profits it makes on the bonds. The bank is believed to have bought them at knocked-down market prices for about euro40 billion and would pocket the difference by holding the bonds to maturity over several years.

The bank has rejected suggestions it join in debt reduction being negotiated with private bondholders. But it has held out the possibility of simply paying the profits to its member governments, which could then do what they wanted with the money.

Top ECB official Benoit Coeure was quoted in an interview in the French newspaper Liberation published as saying that "if there is a profit, as with all monetary revenue, it will be distributed to governments."

"They could use it to contribute to the sustainability of Greek debt," Coeure was quoted as saying. His comments echoed remarks by ECB President Mario Draghi last week.

Other hurdles remain. A European official says a push by some euro nations for a reduction in a euro30 billion ($40 billion) "sweetener" Greece has been negotiating with private creditors is likely to fail.

Greece has been in debt-reduction discussions that could see private creditors take losses of around 70 percent on their Greek bonds.

As an encouragement to take the offer, investors have been promised 15 percent of their bonds' face value immediately. European officials have said their goal is a voluntary agreement that would cause less disruption on the bond markets that countries use to raise money.

A European official said Tuesday that France, the Netherlands and Finland have suggested a reduction to help close a financing gap in Greece's bailout.

However, the official said the proposal "will not fly," adding that changes to the debt deal "could risk the whole operation."

He was speaking on condition of anonymity because the talks are confidential.

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McHugh reported from Frankfurt, Germany. Greg Keller in Paris contributed to this story.

 

83 comments

  • Cogito  •  Omaha, Nebraska  •  3 months ago
    One has to give Greece credit for implementing painful spending cuts.

    That is more than you can say for our government that just increases spending by increasing debt or printing new money. Only 3 of 196 countries in the world create enough annual wealth to spend what the U.S. federal government spends a year, and our taxpayer debt, which is at $15.33 TRILLION dollar, has reached 32.18% of the combined debt of all the countries in the world.

    John Adams said, "There are two ways to enslave a country. One by the sword. The other by debt."
  • A Yahoo! User  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    These European ministers will hem and haw and act like they are doing something to impress the folks back home. In the end they will give Greece the 130 billion Euros and life will go on until the the next "crisis." The Eurozone has no choice but to give the money and Greece has no chance to pay it back.
  • bill  •  3 months ago
    The same thing is happening here in the USA. When goverment workers and public school teachers salaries ,pensions and benefits are more and much better then average tax payers who foot the bill economic disaster is sure to follow.
    • Great divide 3 months ago
      Very true, this has to be stopped
    • Area2Fred 3 months ago
      49% of Americans pay No taxes.
    • trylogic 3 months ago
      And rising. Welcome to Obamaville
  • Brent  •  Brentwood, California  •  3 months ago
    Yup I'll believe Greece will manage it's debt along with the United States as soon as pigs fly!
    • Bryon 3 months ago
      Well said.
  • John  •  3 months ago
    120% of GDP, and they think this is manageable? These people are nuts.
    • Loa 3 months ago
      for your information here in the US we are 109% of GDP , and we print monopoly money.
    • ... 3 months ago
      We're nuts.
    • leon 3 months ago
      ...and the largest holder of US debt is also it's biggest trade "partner"
  • Corny  •  Scarborough, Maine  •  3 months ago
    Now the Greeks are going to get it the "greek" way!
  • Maniac  •  3 months ago
    Simple lesson to be learned here, you cannot tax or borrow your way to prosperity.
    • ... 3 months ago
      -but you can enslave a working class while sitting back sipping champagne with a ridiculous pension.
  • Ulrich  •  North Stormont, Canada  •  3 months ago
    New data shows that the GDP of Greece has been collapsing much more rapidly than estimated. All of these calculations as of how much Greece can pay back are way too optimistic. A bailout now will only require another bailout in the future.
  • AZRon  •  3 months ago
    Bernacke's Operation Twist is about saving the Euro. He wants investors to exit the US markets and invest in Europe. He has built a fragile glass house and there is a huge rock hurtling towards it and getting very, very near shattering the whole structure.
  • ArtP  •  Seattle, Washington  •  3 months ago
    Nice, Privately owned Central banks make Money out of nothing by creating Debt under the auspices of Economic Growth. Then over time the people of a Nation buy in to the idea that they are truly entitled to retiring at 55 with full pension and benefits; thinking they can live like the 1% who control the Central Banking systems that live off the interest they charge on the Debt they were allowed to create by the Nations elected government. Now the nation gets a wakeup call that the nation can no longer afford to make the interest payment to Central Bank and like magic you now have an entire nation working for the owners of the central bank under National PEONAGE.
  • Olaf  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 months ago
    So yesterday Greece was an oil specualtor's feast and today we have a "wrangle"?? WTH??
  • blame yourself  •  3 months ago
    greece system not worht bailing out- too many gov and union workers there enslave privaqte citizens
    • Imkruzen 3 months ago
      How many in the US and Canada are Gov. employees?
    • blame yourself 3 months ago
      way too many- we will be the next greece because of it
  • Ken  •  3 months ago
    The Greeks are rioting - again. Another temper tantrum. Grow up, and learn to live within your means you spoilt brats.
  • blame yourself  •  3 months ago
    When banking and government were seperate-we wouldn't have the mess.
  • Gary  •  Warren, Oregon  •  3 months ago
    This is turning into a joke and taxpayers are not laughing. Just how long will taxpayers continue to fork over their childrens college funds, their retirement funds, their house repair funds (those that are paying for what they buy). This is not going to float, in the US, Greece, are any other nation that has mismanaged their government funds. Just a matter of time.
  • One Nation Underwater  •  3 months ago
    Cook Turkey in Greece and serve on China to the U.S.
  • .  •  3 months ago
    Germany just blitzkrieged Greece without firing a shot. If anything the Greeks are doing all the shooting. China did the same to the U.S. and economic warfare will dominate this century.
  • John B  •  Sterling, Virginia  •  3 months ago
    There's a reason "Greek" means taking it up the rear.
  • Wild Bill  •  Elmhurst, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    You mean the "done" deal is not even close?
  • KahokFan99  •  Collinsville, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    Can anyone explain to me why a default and return to the drachma would not be beneficial to the Greek working class? I see a relatively short period of pain and then their economy will be competitive and begin to grow. The bail out and austery proposal will oppress the working poor for a long time. Germany does not want Greece to be economically competitive.
 
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