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The IM Conversation in Which 19-Year-Old Zuckerberg Decided to Build Facebook

The Facebook IPO filing has finally arrived. In its regulatory filing with the SEC, the social-netowrking giant said it hopes to raise $5 billion in its IPO.

Facebook is so valuable mainly because more than 850 million individuals use the product each month. Half that number come back every day. 

In hindsight, something so massive and valuable as Facebook can seem almost historically inevitable. 

But the truth is, Facebook's creation—and even its sustained development—was anything but a foregone conclusion.

We know this because back in college and in the year or so following, Mark Zuckerberg held lots of instant message conversations with friends and confidants about his plans for life and work. Due to a lawsuit or two, these instant messages were preserved.  We have viewed some of them.

In one of these conversations, a 19-year-old Zuckerberg confers, during the fall of 2003, with his best friend from high school, Adam D'Angelo—who would become Facebook CTO and later cofound Quora—about which project he should focus on: a "dating site" he was asked to build for some Harvard seniors, or "the Facebook thing." Zuckerberg and D'Angelo discuss what "the Facebook thing" should be like.

Zuckerberg: So you know how I'm making that dating site

Zuckerberg: I wonder how similar that is to the Facebook thing

Zuckerberg: Because they're probably going to be released around the same time

Zuckerberg: Unless I f--- the dating site people over and quit on them right before I told them I'd have it done.

D'Angelo: haha

Zuckerberg: Like I don't think people would sign up for the facebook thing if they knew it was for dating 

Zuckerberg: and I think people are skeptical about joining dating things too. 

Zuckerberg: But the guy doing the dating thing is going to promote it pretty well. 

Zuckerberg: I wonder what the ideal solution is.

Zuckerberg: I think the Facebook thing by itself would draw many people, unless it were released at the same time as the dating thing. 

Zuckerberg: In which case both things would cancel each other out and nothing would win. Any ideas? Like is there a good way to consolidate the two. 

D'Angelo: We could make it into a whole network like a friendster. haha. Stanford has something like that internally

Zuckerberg: Well I was thin king of doing that for the facebook. The only thing that's different about theirs is that you like request dates with people or connections with the facebook you don't do that via the system. 

D'Angelo: Yeah

Zuckerberg: I also hate the fact that I'm doing it for other people haha. Like I hate working under other people. I feel like the right thing to do is finish the facebook and wait until the last day before I'm supposed to have their thing ready and then be like "look yours isn't as good as this so if you want to join mine you can…otherwise I can help you with yours later." Or do you think that's too dick?

D'Angelo: I think you should just ditch them

Zuckerberg: The thing is they have a programmer who could finish their thing and they have money to pour into advertising and stuff. Oh wait I have money too. My friend who wants to sponsor this is head of the investment society. Apparently insider trading isn't illegal in Brazil so he's rich lol.

D'Angelo: lol

There are two historically significant notes about this conversation:

  • It seems to be the moment when Zuckerberg decides not to work for somebody else, and to strike out on his own to build what would become Facebook.
  • It's D'Angelo, not Zuckerberg, who seems to suggest "We could make it into a whole network like a friendster."
In the months following his conversation with D'Angelo, Zuckerberg—along with a little bit of help from some Harvard friends, Eduardo Saverin and Dustin Moskovitz—built Facebook (then called TheFacebook), and watched it grow very popular very quickly.

By the next summer, Zuckerberg and pals moved to California and began working on Facebook full-time. By late July, Facebook had almost reached 1 million users, just 7 months after launching.

But despite that early success, a surprising instant message conversation between Mark Zuckerberg and a confidant on July 26, 2004 —about who will foot legal bills in the event that Facebook were ever to be sued—reveals that Facebook was not his main priority at the time.  

Confidant: Well you should recover the shares you need to recover legal fees.

Zuckerberg: I won't pay the legal fees

Zuckerberg: The company that buys us will haha 

Confidant: Cool hopefully that'll be soon so you can move on and just work on what you want to

Zuckerberg: Well it just needs to propel Wirehog 

Confidant: So you have gotten responses to your national recognition? 

Zuckerberg: Responses from whom?

Zuckerberg: Some more VCs. Still talking to Google and Friendster.

 What's enlightening about this conversation:

  • Even as a million people found themselves addicted to Facebook, Zuckerberg wasn't sure yet that it would end up being worth his time. To him, Facebook "just need[ed] to propel Wirehog," which has since been described as a file-sharing service.
  • How close Google came to owning Facebook — probably for a price approximately $999,990,000,000 lower than what Facebook will IPO for in just a few months.

Related:  At Last -- The Full Story Of How Facebook Was Founded



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  • uhhm  •  Ontario, California  •  3 months ago
    It seems like Zuckerberg talks too much.
    • Ben 3 months ago
      yeah he wrote like four lines and his friend only got one in between.
    • Brian 3 months ago
      It seems as if D'Angelo wasn't paying attention a lot. He had only replied when Zuckerbeg asked for a question or a suggestion.
    • uhhm 3 months ago
      Exactly.
  • sumar d  •  Boca Raton, Florida  •  3 months ago
    Did Facebook buy Yahoo or something?, Jeez more stories about FB than the Kardashians (IDK if thats good or bad?)
    • Brian 3 months ago
      I scan Yahoo! articles daily, and I have not seen a lot of Facebook articles. It's been a long time that I forgot when they posted an article about it.
    • chris 3 months ago
      Trust me it's better than kardashian's
    • USAF Vet 3 months ago
      it's only because of the upcoming IPO, then it will quiet down.
  • Chris  •  Fair Oaks, California  •  3 months ago
    How many more facebook stories in oneday! This is getting ridiculous yahoo.
    • Sherdan S 3 months ago
      Mark Zuckerberg also have an astonishing gift for capitalizing antipathy, it's why at the eve of it's IPO, he needs to give the image of someone sharp and "bankable"
  • john  •  3 months ago
    and i bet 95% of people here who left negative comments about this are the ones who turn on their computer first thing in the morning and go directly to facebook.
    • Mokgethi Lebotse 3 months ago
      yah they r the very same people who wake up in the middle of the nyt nd chat
    • indigo 3 months ago
      "being popular on facebook is like sitting at the "cool table" in the cafateria at the mental hospital"
    • paperbacklucy 3 months ago
      Well, since lots of people consider themselves addicted to facebook, I guess you could liken it to someone hating a drug they are on, but continue to use...? Ha, I've been watching too much Intervention lately :)
  • Sherdan S  •  Paris, France  •  3 months ago
    All this worshipping around Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg is somewhat... sick and morbid. They're not Saints, they're just business men who found a good niche and created useless things and marketted them as "indispensable" and/or "essential". Instead of worshipping money makers, we should worship moral, virtuous and abnegating people, like Mother Teresa. Such news are quiet frightening about our societies : Actors, singers and money-makers, most useless and selfish people presented as "iconic". It looks like we're taking the path of decadence slowly but surely.
    • Andrew 3 months ago
      I completely agree that we need to stop revering actors, singer, and money-makers to the extent we have, but I wouldn't lump Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg in those categories. Yes, they are business men that found a good niche and took advantage of it, but that is a very simplistic way of looking at it. That's like saying that all Darwin did was go bird watching while on vacation. Zuckerberg, Jobs, and the household names of innovative tech giants created and developed things that changed the world. Whether that change was for the better and to what extent is their credit due is very much debatable, but nevertheless, their contributions have had an effect on every facet of our lives: culture, economic, social, education, political, even religious. I can admit that some people need to tone down the worshipping of them, but they do deserve the recognition they get.
    • Briana 3 months ago
      What they created was not useless. They both revolutionized they way we communicate. I mean Steve Jobs is Apple. If you're a PC guy fine, but you can't knock the brillance of Apple. And as for Facebook, just step outside of your little box and remember a time when you graduated high school and just lost touch with a lot of people. And maybe in general, it wasn't a big deal, but I bet there were some select people who you were friends with, but you just lost touch. That is no longer. Families can stay more connected. Long distance no longer feels so distant. It's really fantastic. Yes, a lot of it can appear to be useless dribble - do I really need to know what so and so ate for breakfast? But at the same time, it's connecting people all over the world.
    • kyle 3 months ago
      Sounds like someone is jelly...
  • Talkin to Myself  •  Pleasanton, California  •  3 months ago
    In the world of Yahoo there are apparently only 3 things to talk about in the entire world. Hair, Kardashians, and now Facebook
  • Homer  •  West Chester, Ohio  •  3 months ago
    "$999,990,000,000 lower than what Facebook will IPO for in just a few months."

    Google almost bought facebook for how much? The ipo is going to be close to a trillion dollars? FAIL
  • clark  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  3 months ago
    Facebook is going to oversaturate everything to the point that people move on to the next 'big thing'. Myspace anyone?
  • Roflcopter  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 months ago
    More news of facebook? Really?!
    Facebook news should be on facebook and not Yahoo...
  • TheDuchessZul  •  Manila, Philippines  •  3 months ago
    Good heavens people! He was just 19 y.o. that time. I would have talked gibberish & inconfident when talking about such plan at such age, who on earth would know it was going to be this huge? Chillout people! Zuckerberg's doing just fine.
  • Traen  •  Reno, Nevada  •  3 months ago
    Why are there so many articles about Facebook? .... I have seen 3 on Yahoo's News bar today. Is there nothing else in the world going on?!!
  • LIND  •  3 months ago
    Never joined Facebook, Never Will!
  • notasheep  •  3 months ago
    I think there is something so creepy about this little guy. I think this is going to turn into a horror story one day. Just sayin....
  • Tony M  •  Hicksville, New York  •  3 months ago
    Facebook now is starting to die soon. It will die down like myspace. Plus Facebook is like a mental hospital site where you have to hear to many peoples drama and what they are doing. Do we need to know your problems and what you are doing?? If you want to talk to me just text me or call my cell phone. Thats why we have cell phones these days.
  • JustinB1  •  3 months ago
    "How close Google came to owning Facebook — probably for a price approximately $999,990,000,000 lower than what Facebook will IPO for in just a few months." Do your math or edit the story Yahoo. The IPO expects to raise around $5 billion and the market value around $100 billion. There is nothing that says $999 billion. That's almost a trillion dollars!
  • J  •  3 months ago
    they even admitted friendster was already doing it. i guess the point it, don't have an original idea...steal it and be the third or fourth one to promote it, and maybe you'll get lucky because people are too stupid to realize it's been done before.
  • truth  •  3 months ago
    In a real world where compassion for one another actually existed, Facebook would be used to collaborate with people around the world to solve problems. Instead it's just used to post stupid #$%$ while Intelligence & corporations steal your information and spy on you. Real great planet we live on, huh.
  • VDI  •  San Mateo, California  •  3 months ago
    Sheepbook.
  • Luke  •  3 months ago
    George Orwell inadvertently conceived what was to become Facebook long before these dorks creamed themselves over their vaccuous enterprise...I'm so proud n' excited to be living in this day and age!
  • NYC  •  Clementon, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
    whats facebook?
 
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